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I'm looking for insight on this topic (not a debate) My family is Methodist and growing up I attended a Methodist church and women as pastors was accepted. Where I am living now, there is a huge church of Christ population (I live in a small town, not many church options) and after attending their church for the last few years this topic is still uncertain in my mind. Where I attend a female can't lead a prayer if there is a male present, nor teach a class if a male is in it. Any role that a woman "has authority" over a male they are not permitted to do.
I would appreciate any insight on these roles. I am not looking to debate the subject, I know it can be sensitive - just looking for some clarity. Thank you.
thank God for the Methodist church you attended eary in life. Yes woman can be pastors. and here are the verses to support this GREAT TRUTH.
Old Testament First
1. Jeremiah 3:15
2. Joel 2:28 & 29
New Testament
3. Acts chapter 2, for there are several scriptures there to put together.
4. 1 Corinthians 12:7-11
when one combine these scriptures together, one gets the solid foundation to stand on for "FEMALE PASTORS"
I'll be out for a few hours, but upon return I'll post my understanding of these scriptures. I will take you step by step so that you can see and know for yourself without a doubt that women can PASTOR, TEACH, and PREACH.
until then,
Thank you!
fell free to go over those scriptures.
PCY.
Well.......I can say a few things about Joyce Myers.
But I don't.
@101G
Thank you for your rely and the great insight that you offered through your time of study! I never thought of the role as a pastor as a "gift".
"A bishop must be blameless...the HUSBAND of one wife."I'm looking for insight on this topic (not a debate) My family is Methodist and growing up I attended a Methodist church and women as pastors was accepted. Where I am living now, there is a huge church of Christ population (I live in a small town, not many church options) and after attending their church for the last few years this topic is still uncertain in my mind. Where I attend a female can't lead a prayer if there is a male present, nor teach a class if a male is in it. Any role that a woman "has authority" over a male they are not permitted to do.
I would appreciate any insight on these roles. I am not looking to debate the subject, I know it can be sensitive - just looking for some clarity. Thank you.
I'm glade you asked that question"A bishop must be blameless...the HUSBAND of one wife."
Although if is perfectly acceptable for women to serve other women in a ministerial capacity, it is not Biblical for a women to assume authority over men. God created men and women equal, but directed them to serve in different capacities.
A woman is to keep silent in the church, she is to learn from her husband at home.Please answer the questions I raised.
How is a woman to guide her sons in spiritual maters?
If a new Christian is talking about false doctrine he believes and is leading others astray, is a woman, who is a mature experience Christian, to be silent?
As for being silent in church. Please read the context, which makes it clear that Paul is talking/reaching about women asking their husbands questions about the sermon. In which case the quote has nothing to do with whether women can teach or not.
A question for you.
The missionary societies your church supports, how many single women are serving as missionary preachers and teachers in that society?
No! A woman has to remain the subservient, sub-human the organization that YOU yourself have chosen to place yourself under the subjection of, says they must remain.
Don't try to lay the blame on any organism YOU have chosen to remain a part of. You knew who and what they were before you signed on the dotted line. Yet, you still signed. I was CoC and I left because I saw not only that, but a lot more. You can too.
Paul was an APOSTLE. My statement is true: a woman is not to serve as a church pastor.I'm glade you asked that question
the husband of one WIFE if he's married, but not Married to two or MORE.
and Point 2. the apostle Paul was not Married, see my post #32. for a pastor is a BISHOP. so if what you said is true, (which it is not), then the Pastor/Bishop Paul would not be a Bishop. but he is so that statement is false.
PCY.
Let's address this "A woman is to remain silent in the Church service" you used, 1 Corinthians 14:33-35KJV let's get that one first.A woman is to keep silent in the church, she is to learn from her husband at home.
Pastors And Deacons Are To Be Married men.
Pastors And Deacons Are To Be Married Men, Of Good Report, Ruling Their Own Houses Well.
1 Timothy 3:1-13KJV
3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.
11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.
A woman is to remain silent in the Church service, at no time within the Church does a woman exercise authority over the man.
1 Timothy 2:11-14KJV
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1 Corinthians 14:33-35KJV
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
A woman is to obey and love her husband and family, be a home maker, simple.
Titus 2:3-5KJV
3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
#1. Paul was an apostle, a prophet, and a teacher. which means he's a BISHOP. the term "Bishop" is another name for Pastor or Elder.Paul was an APOSTLE. My statement is true: a woman is not to serve as a church pastor.