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no we are doing what God created us to be since He is love we where made in Love and it is because of Love that Christ gave up His life for us.If you love God and love your neighbour then you are following the Ten commandments, and fulfilling the law!
The law is not love it coulds not be and could never be, Love does what love does becuase that is what it is, it is not love when one needss to obey a commandment it is do or die. Hav e you not read,The human race WAS love until satan entered the picture early on, then murder, and death and all kinds of sin followed....God's law provided the return to LOVE by keeping His commands...and if you keep the first four commands you show your love of God, and the last six you show your love of neighbour...quite simple really, you should be able to understand that MJRH....
The issue is I have,and "do we sin more so grace abounds? God forbid"....so repeant MJRH while you still have the chance, to complete the process...
We are all given teh same Spirit from God when we come to Christ, if you choose to ignore Him its no one fault but your own. Revelation only comes from God, you wont get it any where else. you chose the law over grace, that is your doing not His, you choose to be married to teh law instead of being the bride of Christ, that which you love the most is what you speak of the most, and all you speak of is the law.Your choosing not His.Jesus died once for forgiveness of our sins..so do we keep sinning, as you advocate? Of course not, we repent and follow God's law if we are sincere...
But I guess you think there will be a separate section in the eternal city (Revelation) for defiant and arrogant "christians" such as yourself to inhabit, because you do not want to repent of your sins...because of this attitude Jesus died in vain, is what you are saying....
MJR will you agree that one who is born again cannot continue in mortal sins / the severer side of the sins as described by Paul in 1 Cor 6:9-13.mjrhealth said:What is says is that those who have not tasted Grace prefer the law. read it.
You cannot hide your shame from God He can see through all our disguises.
When we are born again we are born of God, no longer of this world, are you telling us that God can sin...
I will answer you in short time. Have other things to ponder off. But should I leave you for the moment with these question.MJR will you agree that one who is born again cannot continue in mortal sins / the severer side of the sins as described by Paul in 1 Cor 6:9-13.
1. Grievous sinAngelina said:1. Please define "mortal sin"? 2. are not all sins mortal??? :huh:
As I understand it. The bosom of Abraham was a place of comfort for the O/T Jews [Luke 16:19 ~] and Jesus describes a great gulf fixed between the rich man and Lazarus. [26]. Jesus also describes Abraham being in the Kingdom of Heaven. Matthew 8:10, 11, 12...2. No. In the OT there was a divide in Hades. There were sinners on both sides of the divide. What separated them?
All Jews? Even those stoned to death? Abraham qualified to be with God without being covered by the blood of Jesus?Angelina said:As I understand it. The bosom of Abraham was a place of comfort for the O/T Jews [Luke 16:19 ~] and Jesus describes a great gulf fixed between the rich man and Lazarus. [26]. Jesus also describes Abraham being in the Kingdom of Heaven. Matthew 8:10, 11, 12...
Joh 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.. But we can still judge Col 2:15.
Jesus says we know someone by their fruits. Judge is to discern not condemn. I will never say a mortal sinner deserves hell, but I can say he is en route there.mjrhealth said:Joh 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
Joh 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
What He said
I have a friend if you met and spent time with would say he wont be going to heaven, yet He has already passed judgment and will be with the Lord, that He has being shown. we cannot judge people even by there works, there are many atheists and people from other religions taht do good works, proves nothing.
Please read Romans 4All Jews? Even those stoned to death? Abraham qualified to be with God without being covered by the blood of Jesus?
Paradise is not in Hades but comes down in/with the New Jerusalem. Paradise is in the heavenlies...I interpret Abrahams bosom / the better side of the divide / paradise as being a waiting place for all those en route to heaven. Nobody qualified to be in God's presence, but not all qualified to be in the fire of Hades.
I do not have any idea what you are talking about??? :huh: Are you Roman Catholic???The point is that we are all sinners. But having sin has never been the issue. If we believe having sin is ''the'' issue then we may as well be Calvinists. They believe we are all en route to hell and Jesus saves us from this. When the truth is that nobody is en route to hell. Those that love sin, choose hell. Since we can only judge by works, a working brain will discern that one in mortal sins loves sin more then one in venial sins. God did likewise in the OT, so our working brains are not far from the truth about a person's heart. But of course there are exceptions. Nobody can judge heart and mind like God Jer 17:10. But we can still judge Col 2:15. I find 1 John 5:16 and Gen 15:16 very interesting on this subject. 1 John 5:16 = sin unto death and Gen 15:16, no death until sin is full measure. Both point to mortal sins.
1. As did Moses. Both qualified to be met by God. As do we all. But living with God. Just think about it. If what you saying is true then what you are actually saying is that Jesus did not need to die for Abraham's sins.Angelina said:1. Please read Romans 4
2. Paradise is not in Hades but comes down in/with the New Jerusalem. Paradise is in the heavenlies...
3. I do not have any idea what you are talking about??? :huh: Are you Roman Catholic???
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