lukethreesix said:
Does every christian have the same knowledge at the same time? No. We are shown new things as we grow and we are all on a different level. Some day Eph 4:13 will happen, but for now hold on to what you know and know that what you know will change. Don't Be afraid of learning that what we once thought was right was wrong. I used to hold to what you believe with all my heart, but now am so thankful I was wrong.
Hang on a minute. Your saying that as my knowledge in the word progresses one day I will be shown that all I have learnt through the spirit was actually wrong, and that will become the next enlightened level you are apparently on.
which just so happens to be the same level that goes from reading a scripture and understanding it as it meant to taking it out of context and not being able to defend it properly. thats the Level I am waiting to aspire to is it?
and once again because you like saying "I was once like you" you assume to put yourself on a much higher level of understanding then me even though I have no trouble understanding and defending scripture while you go around in circles twisting and side stepping.
You where never where I am today, and I would say it is because of your difficulty understanding scripture that you have ended up where you are, because if you truly understood scripture before your so called enlightening, you would never turn this way or that. So please stop saying you where once like me becasue that is becoming increasingly annoying and further more its a very bad side step excuse every time you cant explain what you say you know.
I know this because JW's and Mormons do that all the time. that same old "Well I once beleived like you until my eyes were opened, I cant explain it to you until God is ready to reveal it to you." it really grinds my gears, people just love to raise themselves up when they are cornered.
lukethreesix said:
Romans 12:20-21, I see the good (giving drink to a thristy enemy) as the coals of fire. Doing good will overcome the evil. We or God does not overcome evil with doing more evil? But we can pour coals of fire upon theirs heads with our goodness and mercy and compassion and grace. Love will win in the end. Love changes hearts, not torture. Torture can get you to say what the one who is torturing you wants you to say, but it doesn't change the heart. ONLY love and mercy, doing good to the enemy can and will change their hearts.
Oops? It posted twice...guess God really wanted it said?
This is a good example of what I mean.
Yes doing good over comes evil and yes by us loving our enemies we pour coals on their heads that is agreed and obvious in the teaching.
Now answer the rest of the question, I ask you again for the third time.
Why are their Hot coals on his head, why are they there????????
ajdiamond, on 07 Feb 2014 - 01:32 AM, said:
ajdiamond, on 07 Feb 2014 - 01:32 AM, said:
ajdiamond said:
Well, it's obviously not literal. So, coals represent something. There's alot of references to coals in the bible so the symbol is probably interpreted for us within scripture. The effect of the coals may be this:
Is 6:6-7 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.
http://www.bluelette...s=s_primary_0_1
Ok, so in your estimation the Hot coal resembles the purging of sin...right?
So with that in mind, what would be the significance of the heaping of hot coals upon somebody's head who is an enemy to you who despite his persecution of you you show love?
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Now with what you just said in mind and what is pointed out in this scripture, what is the obvious answer?