As I said, even though you quoted it, you still didn't even see what John said. That's OK, few people do.
Luke 14:15-24 Rapture Before Great Tribulation
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So you agree that they have been "converted" as in "saved" when they had simply came to Him & had believed in Him?
Just asking to clarify where you are coming from now, brother.
"That they have been "converted"" ?
"THEY" is to general.
"THEY" in scripture are "multitudes" of Individuals.
Everything HINGES on the "INDIVIDUAL".
A "TEACHER" is always the FIRST "intercessory"....BETWEEN a man, of what he DOES NOT KNOW....and the teacher, of what the teacher DOES KNOW.
A man begins by hearing, what the TEACHER is saying.
A man decides to TRUST and BELIEVE in the teaching of the TEACHER....or not.
Man IS NOT the INTERCESSORY to BELIEF IN GOD.
Jesus IS the INTERCESSORY to BELIEF IN GOD.
Man IS the INTERCESSORY to teaching other men OF Gods "written" word.
Men who desire to HEAR, goes to the teacher.
Men who trust what the teacher is telling him, decides to believe or not, what the teacher is telling him.
Such a man IS "believing" and "trusting" the TEACHER.
A CONVERSION "occurs", WHEN the man, begins BELIEVING IN, and TRUSTING IN, the Lord.
The Lord thus, becomes the mans INTERCESSORY, "TO" God the Father.
The CONVERSION, effects the mans INTERCESSION, (effected BY the Lord), between the man and God the Father.
As the INERCESSION ...THE CONVERSION IS ACCOMPLISHED...that man IS FOREVER, Spiritually WITH and IN, his Lord, his God.
"THEY" in scripture are multitudes, at different stages...
Some trusting and believing the written and spoken word of God...of and by the teacher.
Some believing only for awhile, then rejecting what the teacher is teaching.
Some believing the teacher and SUBMITTING to BELIEF and TRUST "IN" the Lord.
Thus they Become Converted.
They "in Scripture" WHO HAVE become CONVERTED, ARE they who "ARE" converted; ARE forgiven, ARE sanctified, ARE saved, ARE born again, ARE forever faithful.
That does NOT apply to ALL who "heard".
Inanutshell....the Conversion is PARAMOUNT.
God Bless,
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Well, in a nutshell, not every saved believer will become His disciple to inherit the firstfruits of the resurrection. Many saved believers will be left behind because of what they have built as wood, stubble, and hay on that foundation unless they repent with His help before the Bridegroom comes.
That means those saints left behind are saved since it is the works of wood, stubble, and hay that is built on that foundation that will be burned up, but the foundation which was laid by Jesus Christ remains. The consequence for defiling the temple of God is physical death; not loss of salvation. 1 Corinthians 3:10-17
That seal of adoption is never going away for why we are warned not to grieve the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 4:30
There are vessels unto honor that will be received at the pre great trib rapture event and there are saints that will become vessels unto dishonor in His House by becoming castaways. So even former believers are called to repent before the Bridegroom comes; 2 Timothy 2:18-21 & 2 Timothy 2:10-13
If you consider Paul as converted, Paul did say that even as His disciple, he was at risk of being a castaway if he did not bring his body into subjection ( 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 ) so even a disciple can be found cut off if He has come at a time when he was not looking was engaging in sin willfully.
So conversion is salvation, but remaining as His disciple by abiding in Him and His words by faith in Him as our Good Shepherd to enable us is paramount in running that race looking to Him to help us lay aside every weight & sin daily. Hebrews 12:1-2 & 2 Timothy 4:18
Okay.. not so in a nutshell, but hopefully, you will get the gist of what I am trying to convey of my faith in Jesus Christ as my Good Shepherd and not just as my Savior for having saved me when I first came to & believed in Him thereby obtaining eternal life. Ephesians 1:11-15
Davy
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That's a different subject than what is meant with the word 'rapture'. You're talking about the resurrection.
The word rapture comes from the Latin translation of Greek harpazo in 1 Thess.4:17, translated as "caught up" in the KJV. Greek harpazo is applied to the saints who remain that are alive on earth at Jesus' coming. It is not applied there to the asleep saints who had already died which Jesus brings with Him.
As for receiving a new flesh body at the resurrection, that's an old Jewish belief. I do not believe that and nor did Apostle Paul:
1 Cor 15:48-50
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
KJV
Davy
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I did cover the subject of that 15th verse, I just didn't quote that verse. See my post #103, first paragraph. I also mentioned it in my previous post also with: "It is not about the asleep saints who are resurrected first which Jesus brings with Him."
1 Thess 4:15
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
KJV
That verse only confirms what I said, because the KJV word "prevent" there is actually the Greek word for 'precede' in the Greek texts. So Paul is simply saying that we who are alive and remain on earth until Jesus' coming will not 'precede' the dead saints who are asleep. Precede to where? To Heaven, being changed to our spiritual bodies like they will have, because the dead are raised first like Paul said, remember?
The 1 Thess.4:16 & 17 verses give specifically the two separate operations of Christ gathering His saints, one group from Heaven He brings with Him, and the other group from the earth that are raptured (or "caught up").
Furthermore, Paul was teaching this event also in 1 Corinthians 15 too, because the saints being 'changed' "at the twinkling of an eye" on the "last trump" is about the alive saints on earth being "caught up" to Jesus. Those alive are changed first before they are caught up. And the body their changed to is the "spiritual body" Paul taught in that chapter, which basically is what the resurrection body is.
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So now you go off on a tangent simply because I showed your error?
If you think the Pre-trib Rapture is not merely a doctrine of men, then you will have a very rude awakening when you find out that it was all a lie to trick the deceived into not being prepared for the coming Antichrist. You might want to study Ezekiel 13 where God reveals how He is against that doctrine of teaching the souls to fly to save their souls.
Matt 10:38-39
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after Me, is not worthy of Me.
39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for My sake shall find it.
KJV
Notice our Lord Jesus did not say... 'he who seeks to escape to save their life shall find it,' but that's what men's doctrine of a Pre-trib Rapture says.
So inanutshell, you are saying; the Lord was FOOLED? He savED A SOUL, that that would then BE rejected BY HIM?
And...what? The Lord UN-SAVES the mans SOUL?
WHAT "saints" left behind?
A man IS NOT become a "saint", until AFTER his soul IS saved and his spirt IS born again.
ONLY WORKS that ARE performed "BY" the SAVED and BORN AGAIN..."can" Glorifiy God.
And NOT EVERY WORKS..."performed" "BY" the SAVED and BORN AGAIN...'do' Glorifiy God.
The WORKS ... "performed" "BY" the Saved and Born Again...."THAT DO" Glorify God...
Shall be "rewarded" "BY" GOD.
The WORKS...."performed" "BY" the Saved and Born Again..."THAT DO NOT" Glorify God...Shall be "burned"..."BY" God.
Uh...EVERYONE is SUBJECT TO "Physical Death". Saved...AND...Unsaved!
The SEAL of Adoption is a GIFT given during CONVERSION.
Conversion INCLUDES, Soul saving, Spirit Quickening.....
"YOU" have the SAVED, somehow becoming LEFT BEHIND...."BECAUSE OF THEIR WORKS".
Scripture teaches, the CONVERTED are FOREVER WITH the Lord.
There is NO LEAVING the SAVED BEHIND.
The SAVED, are either REWARDED "FOR" their "WORKS" or NOT REWARDED "IF" they did NO WORKS.
However the SAVED "DOING" "NO" WORKS IS NOT POSSIBLE.
BECAUSE....the ONE ACCEPTABLE WORKS (service) a "saved" man HAS DONE ..IS ...
Romans 12:1
Presented His WHOLE body TO The Lord.
'You" are making men "saints" AND "dishonorable" .... Scripture isn't.
Scripture is speaking OF ERRONEOUS TEACHING.
A man WHO IS TEACHING what is NOT TRUE, is a "saint"..."HOW" ?
Castaway, IN WHAT CONTEXT?
Paul was Converted. <-- THAT pertains exclusively TO Paul.
Paul was TEACHING. <---THAT pertains to Paul the TEACHER -and- LISTENERS.
Will the Lord EVER Cast Paul away? No.
What about the ... LISTENERS?
Can the LISTENERS CAST PAUL AWAY? Yes!
They MAY HEAR Pauls words....but then WHAT IF, they "SEE" Paul.."FIND" Paul....DOING the "OPPOSITE" of what he TEACHES?
WHY would the Listeners ... Trust Paul, Trust his Teaching....IF Paul himself says ONE thing, but DOES another?
Paul is effectively TEACHING, "HE" is in a difficult position.....a human man with human desires....yet the teacher of HOW a man is to become "spiritual"
A difficult position...AS IT IS FOR EVERY TEACHER, PASTOR, PRIEST....as WAS the Pharisees, the Rabbi's, etc.
The Listener's EYES are FOCUSED on the TEACHER....
The Listener's IS CRITICAL of Everything the TEACHER "says".......AND "DOES".
Why do you think Catholic Churches and Protestant Churches...
Are all up in a tizzy, WHEN their Priests or Pastors are "CAUGHT" "SEEN" "FOUND" DOING, the opposite of what they Teach?
Because the Church MAY BECOME Castaway, BY THE CONGREGATION!!
And THAT HAPPENS! Many times MEN will CAST AWAY the Priest, the Pastor, OR the entire Church denomination....particularly IF the Church "knows" and "tries" to "HIDE" a "Priests" indisgression or a "Pastors" Indisgression.
The Conversion....is effected BY the Lord.
The KEEPING.......is effected BY the Lord!!
Man CAN NOT "KEEP" himself "abiding" IN belief, faith, truth, the Lord, Salvation, Born again...
Man CAN NOT "KEEP" himself "abiding" IN
The Law.
Man can NOT "KEEP" anything....WITHOUT the Power of the Lord, IN THE MAN, DOING the KEEPING.
Inanutshell....WITHOUT the Lords POWER IN A MAN...The man IS WITHOUT Conversion.
Without Conversion...the man IS subject to FAIL.
God Bless,
Taken
I believe the RAPTURE...is precisely the Lord calling "up"....(ie being RAISED UP)
(Ie being resurrected..UP TO HIM...)
Both...
The BODY's of the dead IN Christ.
And
The BODY'S of the living IN Christ.
Effecting....the manifestation of what THOSE Body's have been Waiting FOR...
Glorification...and TO THUS ... SEE their Lord, "AS HE IS".
1 Cor 15:
42....resurrection OF THE DEAD.
43....raised in glory
43....raised in power
44....raise in a spiritual body
The DEAD "IN" Christ...
Are the Physically DEAD, 'IN" Christ.
Are the Physically living, DEAD, crucified, "IN" Christ.
We ARE ALL DEAD...PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY...
BUT SOME....ARE DEAD "IN" CHRIST, THEREFORE "ALIVE" "IN" CHRIST...AND THUS SHALL BE resurrected, called, summoned, claimed, taken, harpazo-ed, redeemed, RAISED UP IN A GLORIOUS BODY.
God Bless,
Taken
Davy
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I'm not going to argue. I believe what Apostle Paul in 1 Cor.15 and 1 Thess.4 about Jesus bringing the asleep saints with Him from Heaven, and then the saints still alive on earth being raptured ("caught up") to Him at that time also. The word rapture thus applies only to those "caught up" that were alive.
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Did not Paul had written to Timothy about how some err from the truth, thinking that the resurrection had already happened, thus overthrowing their faith in 2 Timothy 2:18-21 and yet Paul still calls those former believers to depart from iniquity because they still have their seal?
You need to ask Him what is a vessel unto honor by the description given it as gold and silver, and what is a vessel unto dishonor by the description of wood and of earth and how they can be both in His House? Indeed, in this call to depart from iniquity, is how one can hope in Him to be received as a vessel unto honor in His House at the pre great trib rapture event.
Those found in iniquity as any work that denies Him ( Titus 1:15-16 ) they will be denied, and not just former believers denying Him by unbelief, will be disqualified to attend the Marriage Supper and become castaways and that is how a saint becomes a vessel unto dishonor when God judges His House first at the pre great trib rapture event.
Those who deny Him, will be denied 2 Timothy 2:12
But even if they do not believe in Him any more, He still abides in them because He is faithful 2 Timothy 2:13
Saints that ARE in Heaven are saved living souls and quickened spirits that occupied their physical bodys, and departed their body's when their physical body's died.
Their physical dead body's are rotting and turning to dust, which shall be raised and glorified.
God Bless,
Taken
You are mixing carnal and spiritual.
A man with the Lords seal, is sealed.
A man teaching what Scripture does not say, IS in err.
It does not say "His" house. It says a "great house".
"What iniquity" ?
Absolutely, Deny Him, He will Deny them.
I have already been very clear....
Non-belief, belief, and born again believer are 3 very different meanings.
Puzzled why you are telling me this twice...
I never said otherwise.
That scriture says He abides in HIM being faithful.
God Bless,
Taken
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Living souls and quickened spirits that are His abiding disciples as well as O.T. saints will receive a physical celestial body at the firstfruits of the resurrection which will be like the angels that never die and do not marry, and will live with the Lord forever in that city of God in Heaven. After the great tribulation, the city of God will come down with her celestial inhabitants and dwell among men.
No departed saint has a body yet. Jesus after His resurrection, did eat in that glorified celestial body. It stands to reason come the Marriage Supper where N.T. saints abiding in Him as His disciples will sit down with O.T. saints at the supper table. Luke 13:24-30
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Applying scripture when it does not run contrary to other scripture is not in error.
John 14:1-3 has Jesus speaking of His Father's House. Paul referring to that great house is His House; There is no other house. In that great house, the Father's house, there are two kinds of vessels, and in regards to departing from iniquity is how one is received as a vessel unto honor in His House whereas becoming a castaway and thus damned is how an unrepentant saint even a former believer, becomes a vessel unto dishonor in His House.
Any iniquity.
That is how God will judge His House first at the pre great trib rapture event. Those in iniquity still, are disqualified to attend the Supper in Heaven.
A believer can err from the truth and have their faith overthrown and not believe in Him any more, but He still abides in that former believer because HE is faithful due to the will of the Father as stated in
John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
Just sharing the truth by His grace & by His help.
And yet IF we, as the believers, believes not, any more.... Jesus is faithful and abides in us still
2 Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
And so because he was a believer is why He still abides in him, because as a lost sheep, he is still His, and He will not lose one which is why those left behind those sheep that did not follow His voice, He must bring because they have His seal.
John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
Davy
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That's really not what will happen. Like Paul said in 1 Cor.15, flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither does corruption (flesh) inherit incorruption (spiritual body). That means our flesh bodies are a completely separate operation from the Heavenly order of things.
Ecclesiastes 12:5-7 verifies this idea too, as it showed at flesh death our flesh goes back to the earth where it came from, and our spirit goes back to God Who gave it, the "silver cord" having been severed. That "silver cord" mentioned there shows there's some kind of cord that connects our spirit (with soul) to our flesh bodies, and that it is severed at death. It further reveals how the flesh and the spirit are two totally separate operations distinct to themselves.
Our Lord Jesus revealed this also in John 3 when He said that which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. And in Matt.10:28, Jesus showed how our soul can exist independent of our flesh body.
But our Lord Jesus' resurrection did involve the raising of His flesh body, and it preserved the marks of His crucifixion. His flesh body was transformed to the Heavenly, which is how Jesus' body after His resurrection could appear and disappear out of nowhere among His disciples. Our flesh bodies won't be transfigured like our Lord Jesus' body. Once our "silver cord" is severed, we will cast off the flesh, forever, no longer needing it.
Did the angels which appeared on earth per God's Word need to be in a flesh body to appear in our earthly dimension? No. There is not one shred of Biblical evidence of that idea. That idea is simply a doctrine of men who can't understand the difference between this earthly dimension and the heavenly dimension. Yet those angels appear on earth in the form of man's image, and they can eat man's food, and live on the earth. So the "spiritual body" Paul taught for the resurrection body is a body like the angels, which even our Lord Jesus alluded to in Matthew 22:30. It is not... a new flesh body.
Not sure I would have said it exactly as you have, but inanutshell, yes, I have the same basic understanding.
God Bless,
Taken
Scripture to Scripture is not in error.
The errors occur when men attempt to apply Scripture to men, when it does not apply.
Example being;
A Scripture that applies to a born again man;
Does not apply to a man NOT born again.
But there ARE other "houses". Houses of "men". Genealogies and lineages of men.
Hebrew blood lines.
Jewish blood lines.
"Royal" blood lines, of "Lords and Ladies", dukes, earls, kings and queens.
And of course the common man, who IS "subject to" the "masters" of the "those" "houses".
We can pretend "THOSE" houses have not, do not exist.
Men historically have known and been "subject to"....the rulers OF such "masters"...
Being the point....
Considering what people were COMMONINGLY "used" to, when introducing THEE Master "Christ Lord Jesus"....Above ALL.
It is the same basic principle Moses introduced to the People.
God established relationships. Calling and identifying those involved in the relationship.
The "father" always being the "head" of the family, the clan, the tribe, etc.
It was Moses who inturn taught the people...every family, clan, tribe, etc. recognized as a "head", a "father"....were ALL "subject to" a GREATER "FATHER", "a higher MASTER"; ie.; thee Creator; thee unseen God of and in Heaven.
And thereafter, God began being called THEE God of Abraham, (whose "house") descended down, to his descendants of Isaac, of Jacob, to the "house of David"....
The "house of David", being both, a "carnal", earthly established "king", "ruler", "master"...and "spiritual", BECAUSE, his "kingship" was established both by God and the People........and HIS THRONE, was established by God, as and for ...
an Everlasting Throne....Which Jesus shall occupy, "AS" thee Earthly and Heavenly "KING"..."of" and "above" ALL kings.
Just saying Everything in Scripture is revealing what was (carnal) and what it is becoming (spiritual), bit by bit, seen and unseen.....the people, the earth, the heavens, the governments, the kingdoms, the land, the established positions.
Just saying for the BIG picture, consider what WAS (and quite visibly still IS today in some mastery governments), and what WAS (and quite visibly still IS today in SOME PEOPLE, "subject to" God, "ABOVE" "IS" their master government......and many ARE NOT).
Regarding Gods Great house....yes it is the Father's House. And in the Father's House, there "ARE" "many mansions", and IN those "mansions" are those "WHOM" "ARE", (WITH Him, and Subject to Him "ABOVE ALL" other "masters"...and those "WHO" "ARE Becoming", "SUBJECT TO HIM", "Above ALL other Masters".
"HIS HOUSE"....yes shall be "Judged".
"Their judgement", IS JUDGED, on "their" accomplishments" of Glorifying "HIS GREAT NAMES" "on earth"....AND rewarded accordingly.
"Their" accomplishments, that did not glorify His Names....shall be burned....to ash.
Those NOT "of" His House, shall also be judged, as NOT having glorified His great names; and the whole of "them" and "their" works, burned....to ash.
Sure, a "believer" can....become a NON-believer. I've already established that absolutely IS possible.
However "a BORN AGAIN BELIEVER"...CAN NEVER BECOME .... A "NON-BELIEVER".
"THEY" are "FOREVER" "KEPT" "IN FAITH", precisely "BY" the "indwelling POWER OF God".
The DIFFERENCE being....ANYONE can believe, by their OWN NATURAL POWER, and STOP believing, by their OWN NATURAL POWER....
It is WHEN, a believer GIVES HIS LIFE TO THE Lord, the "POWER" for "KEEPING" the man "IN FAITH"....is precisely the man "GIVING" the Lord......"AUTHORITY" "TO KEEP" the man "IN FAITH" "FOREVER"....
And "THAT" is effected...--> BY His Power.
The Lord does not Force ANYONE to Submit to His Power. It is a mans CHOICE, to Submit to the Lords "KEEPING the man WITH HIM" forever.
Disagree. A disbeliever IS DEAD 'IN HIS SINS". Not Forgiven. Not restored or quickened. And the Lords Spirit doe not dwell IN the dead. He is a God of the Living.
The Lord IS FAITHFUL to His OWN WORD.
There is NO such thing as a man ...
Kind of, Sort of a MAN "WITH" the Lord, and Kind of, Sort of a MAN "WITHOUT" the Lord.
Every man "WITHOUT" "being" Born of Gods Seed......IS "WITHOUT" the Lord.
Yes, men can be in a "learning" stage. Hearing, believing.....but they can also be doubting, denying....THEY HAVE MADE NO COMMITMENT....and until they DO...the Lord IS NOT "within" them.
Matt 12:30
He that is not WITH ME, IS AGAINST ME...
God Bless,
Taken
That is a deep subject.
Because it is dependent upon the CONTEXT.
What was the INIQUITY of a Hebrew/ a Jew?
Disobedience of the LAW.
How did that APPLY to a Gentile?
It didn't.
What IS the INIQUITY of a Gentile?
To not believe IN God the Father, His Almighty Power, His Word of what it says, and IS pure Supreme Truth.
For the Jew, THEY were being TAUGHT, their SUPREME God, thee Christ Messiah came among them, to them, in the LIKENESS "AS" a man.
Many could not accept this...
"THEIR" God....walking about "like" a pauper. No riches, No kingdom, No throne, No crown, calling Himself, 'the SON", of their Great unseen God. Really? Their "unseen" Great God "reproduced" a baby......and with...A "carnal" nobody human woman? Think that wasn't a hard pill for Jews, steeped in 4,000 years of required LAWFUL Obedience...to digest? Of course it was.
And the Gentile? Steeped in Beliefs of moon gods, statue gods, love gods, men gods, women goddesses, mythical creatures gods, etc, etc., being revealed a LIVE breathing, powerful living man, claiming to have been Sent by THEE Heavenly unseen God, and revealing His WORKS, effected by the POWER of His own spoken word out of His mouth, and what He said, was Immediately Accomplished.
So yes....Gentiles were readily more accepting of Christ Jesus....and Jews were more leary.
There has for eons been division of what men believe "IN".
Hebrew was a Separatiion of men from all other men.
It was a People, believing In THEE Supreme Heavenly God, His Word, His Power....Creator of all things.
When a WORD defines "particular" men...AND the "individual" men "FAULTER" from WHAT the WORD was intended "TO DEFINE", the WORD itself becomes "faulty", when attempting to Discover the TRUTH.
In brief...
Hebrew "people" were defined as "exclusive" to the SAME beliefs.......BUT THEN, SOME Hebrew "people" began "ADOPTING" other beliefs.
Then the Tribes of Israel, were defined as "exclusive" to the SAME beliefs....BUT THEN, SOME of the Tribes "people" began "ADOPTING" other beliefs.
Then the Christians, were defined as "exclusive" to the SAME beliefs....BUT THEN SOME of the Christian "people" began "ADOPTING" other beliefs.
The LAST established "separation" of People, IS those WHO, "become BORN AGAIN of Gods SEED".
"THEY" are FOREVER a "people" separated VIA....a "NAME"..? Hebrew, Jew, Christian?
No. They are FOREVER a Separated "people" VIA "QUICKENING of their natural spirit to a spiritual spirit", VIA Gods Indwelling SEED.
They ARE ALSO .... separated "FROM" inquity.
They ARE ALSO .... KEPT "FROM" inquity, VIA, Gods POWER "WITHIN" them.
For a man TO BECOME in "the LIKENESS" of Christ.....He BECOMES in the "LIKENESS" of Jesus, WHO was WITHOUT SIN, and why a MAN IN CHRIST, becomes FORGIVEN his SIN, and SINS NO MORE.
It is thereafter The man IS FREED from Sin.
Freed from being able to COMMIT SIN.
Freed from the CONSEQUENCES of SIN.
It is thereafter The man has the POWER of God within him, TO:..... Serve and Exalt the Names of the Lord....ACCORDING TO the "precepts" OF God, that such SERVICE and WORKS.....DO Glorify Gods Names.
And the "many mansions" in heaven....
Why not "just" one big "mansion"?
Because NOT ALL "IN CHRIST" "SERVE" do works unto the Lord, and "exalt" His great name ONE, IN THE SAME MANNER,
OR WITH THE SAME EFFORTS.
Some men, spend their whole remaining life, exalting the Lords Name IN EVERYTHING they do daily.......And Some men....do so regularly, And some men....do so occasionally...
THEY ALL have their PLACE established WITH HIM, "IN" HIS HOUSE....However they DO NOT ALL ... receive the same blessings and rewards......BECAUSE their own "EFFORTS" were NOT ALL the Same.
So, yes in some sense....INIQUITY....could be seemingly applied to a man IN CHRIST, who "Glorifies" the Lords Name Less, than another.....
But once again the "term" INIQUITY, IS a term equated with the Commission of Sin.
A man "IN CHRIST", is freed from Sin.
A man "IN CHRST", can not Commit Sin.
A man "IN CHRIST", is Forever "IN" Christ.
A man "IN CHRIST", is NOT GUILTY of Commiting SIN......while he may be GUILTY of NOT being observed or known to be SERVING the Lord, Glorifying the Lords Name.......According to what MEN determine is SUFFICIENT!!
However .... the Lord has already REVEALED, what IS SUFFICIENT TO HIM, according to Him....and WHAT IS given TO HIM, is His Forever...
A man Who gives his OWN LIFE to the Lord...
IS the Lords forever. The Lord changes the man, "according to" what is acceptable to the Lord....not man.
Saying a man born again, IN CHRIST, has some dealing with "inquity", is false.
Saying a man believing, but not committed, is IN Christ, is false.
God Bless,
Taken
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