This seems pretty unambiguous to me my brother.
1 Timothy 4:10 For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.
Luke 15 demonstrates that Jesus is a universalist
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1 Timothy 4:10 For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.
Amen my brother. We're supposed to love one another, not smash one another over the head with our Bible. :)
And everybody WILL love and be with him forever.
1 Corinthians 15:28
28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.
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1 Timothy 4:10 For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.
This verse doesn't prove your theory. You need to show in the Bible where the subjects being spoken of are all men ever born. Unless you can do that, then you're only reading your own theory into the Bible.
Rather than let my imagination run wild, assuming all manner of things, I simply cling to what is written. Some, whose names are not found written in the book of life shall be cast into the lake of fire THAT IS THE SECOND DEATH. I will not argue for eternal torment, nor will I argue against it. Because found in the Word of God are verses that appear there will be unending torment, but also found in the Word of God are verses like those of Rev 20:14 that tells us to be cast into the lake of fire is the second death. Whether or not there is eternal torment and suffering associated with the second death is irrelevant, for it is enough to know with certainty that we do not want to go there, nor do we want others to go there. Therefore, we faithfully teach the Gospel of salvation that is found in Christ alone, and with comfort know that Christ will save His people and none of them shall be lost eternally. Who they are is not for me to know, but God knows, and that too is enough for me.
Matthew 10:28 (KJV) And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Scripture tells us that being cast into the lake of fire is the SECOND DEATH! All who are cast there, those who are not found written in the book of life will be destroyed body and soul, just as Christ tells us is the reason we should fear going there.
Yes, but I know our English translations are quite consistent. Don't you believe any of them?
You believe? Why? Because they all say you're wrong?
It does matter indeed.
Revelation 22
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Which clearly proves you're wrong, again.
You didn't say how long God is gonna cook those who hate Him. Remember, you accused me of dodging questions.
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Only because you're not understanding what I'm telling you... or possibly that you just refuse to. Or possibly both. God's thoughts and ways are much higher than ours (Isaiah 55:8-9), and we, like David, cannot attain to it (Psalm 139:6), so in some sense it may seem ambiguous to us, but that doesn't make it so. :)
Well, and the "especially" can also be seen as "particularly." Yes, he's the Savior of all people, but many will never acknowledge that; they will never call upon the name of the Lord. Read Joel 2:32 and you will see the Old Testament passage that John and Paul refer to when they say, "All who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved." Here you go; the bolded part of the quote shows the limited nature of God's calling, that those who call upon the name of the Lord, will be not all, but only those whom He has called, a subset of the 'all'...
"And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be those who escape, as the LORD has said, and among the survivors shall be those whom the LORD calls."
There is no ambiguity.
That all things will be put in subjection under God is a different thing than salvation, Patrick. Closely related, but different. In eternity, Patrick, there will be those in subjection to Him with Jesus in the new heavens and new earth (with eternal life), and there will be those in subjection to Him... elsewhere, under God's final judgment, in eternal punishment. Thus, yes, all will be in subjection to Him. It is at least a bit of a frightful thought, but as John says at the end of the fifth chapter of his gospel, "an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear His voice and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment" (vv.28-29). One way or the other, yes, all will be in subjection to Him.
Grace and peace to you.
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