Making us like our brother

[PS95]

Post in thread 'God begets God?'
God begets God?

Ok I read it. I don't disagree but there wasn't much said in that post, but you should not have sent me to that thread.
I saw a side of you that is really very ugly-as well as your buddy, APAK .
I cant read the heart, but I can read what comes out of the mouth which is from the heart.
My mistake was thinking that although we disagree, we both love our Father and our Savior who died in our place from the heart.
No one would talk about someone they consider a brother in that way.
I would never declare an anathema on a non-trin unless point-blank heretical in other ways. There are so many variances believed about the creed's wording that amongst believers, only a VERY FEW would hate and make fun of another believer over it. They're called, High Trinitarians and greatly in the minority and not respected. We just don't make a big deal over it like trin haters do. If someone was causing divisions then yeah, why do that? Stop Dividing Matt.
I have never prayed to a 3 headed God as I am accused by haters.
You claim persecution by the Forum mods. Yet, you are no different than them.
I'm sorry it is the way it is.

 

[Matthias]

Ok I read it. I don't disagree but there wasn't much said in that post …

The one God is explicitly identified in that post using scripture. If you agreed with the identity there would be much less disagreement between us.

… but you should not have sent me to that thread.
I saw a side of you that is really very ugly-as well as your buddy, APAK .

I sent you a link to a post in that thread. I’ve made essentially the same post in multiple threads.

I cant read the heart, but I can read what comes out of the mouth which is from the heart.

You’re contradicting yourself.

My mistake was thinking that although we disagree, we both love our Father and our Savior who died in our place from the heart.

I love the one God of Israel and his Son the Messiah.

No one would talk about someone they consider a brother in that way.

Did I ever say to you that I consider you a brother in the faith? Did I not tell you plainly, and on several occasions, that the result of our thinking is not the same?

I would never declare an anathema on a non-trin unless point-blank heretical in other ways.

Your standard is less than the standard set by historical orthodox trinitarianism.

This isn’t the thread for it but sometime you’ll have to inform me which heresies you will cosy up to and which heresies you won’t.

There are so many variances believed about the creed's wording that amongst believers, only a VERY FEW would hate and make fun of another believer over it. They're called, High Trinitarians and greatly in the minority and not respected.

Apparently I respect the “High Trinitarians”, as you call them, more than you do. Ironic, isn’t it.

We just don't make a big deal over it like trin haters do.

For the record, I don’t hate trinitarians.

If someone was causing divisions then yeah, why do that? Stop Dividing Matt.

I’m not causing division among the trinitarians. I don’t even speak with them here unless they come to the few forums where people of “Other Faith” are permitted to speak. With few exceptions, I don’t seek them out.

I have never prayed to a 3 headed God as I am accused by haters.

Have I ever accused you of praying to a 3 headed God?

You claim persecution by the Forum mods.

No I don’t. I seldom come in contact with them. What I’ve said, in fact, is that they have treated me very kindly.

Yet, you are no different than them.

I’m different from them in many ways.

I'm sorry it is the way it is.

It isn’t quite the way you think it is.

 

[shepherdsword]

I am not going to go back and quote you again (which I did word for word with the "Reply" quote feature)--as you have already denied it.

You didn't quote me. I reposted what I said and it was nothing like what your lying post said.

 

[ScottA]

Lucifer wanted to be "as God" too. Look where it got him.

So you deny posting this, making the comparison of being "as God" with the wants of "Lucifer?"

And ever since I called you out on it--YOU have accused me of lying that you posted it. You're amazing!

 

[shepherdsword]

So you deny posting this, making the comparison of being "as God" with the wants of "Lucifer?"

Of course I said that. I said it in response to this

The Father is making his people divine.

I did not post what you said I did. I also posted

An Orwellian spin. Lucifer wanted to be "as God" too. Look where it got him.

Being conformed to his image should not be classified as being made "divine". A created being can never be divine. The substance of divinity is eternal and outside the created realm of space and time. Be careful you don't swallow the original lie from Satan "Ye shall be as God"

THAT is the CONTEXT of my statement

YOU tried to contort, twist and wrest it into

How is it that you seem to find it objectionable that we should be perfect just as our Father in heaven is perfect?

A statement I never said. So yes,,,,I deny posting or even slightly alluding to what you, in your prevarication and dishonesty,tried to say I did

And ever since I called you out on it--YOU have accused me of lying that you posted it. You're amazing!

LOL....YOU calling ME out? That's a laugh. And I just proved you were lying about what I said..REPENT

 

[ScottA]

Of course I said that. I said it in response to this

I did not post what you said I did. I also posted

THAT is the CONTEXT of my statement

YOU tried to contort, twist and wrest it into

A statement I never said. So yes,,,,I deny posting or even slightly alluding to what you, in your prevarication and dishonesty,tried to say I did
LOL....YOU calling ME out? That's a laugh. And I just proved you were lying about what I said..REPENT

Thanks for filling in the details, some of which I am sure I did not initially read. Even so, what I had read was not correct, thus my comments. But now I see the problem.

This statement you made: "Be careful you don't swallow the original lie from Satan "Ye shall be as God"--is not the lie Satan originally told.

In fact, much of what Satan said was true. The original lie however, was "You shall not surely die" (Genesis 3:4).

To the contrary many "shall be as God", for it is written that those born of the spirit of God will be One with Him, and will be perfect as He is perfect (John 3:7, 1 Peter 1:23, John 17:23, Matthew 5:48).

 

[shepherdsword]

Thanks for filling in the details, some of which I am sure I did not initially read. Even so, what I had read was not correct, thus my comments. But now I

I'm glad you do...but I don't see an apology for the false accusation or the snap uninformed judgement

see the problem.

This statement you made: "Be careful you don't swallow the original lie from Satan "Ye shall be as God"--is not the lie Satan originally told.

Yes, it is (see below)

In fact, much of what Satan said was true. The original lie however, was "You shall not surely die" (Genesis 3:4).

To the contrary many "shall be as God", for it is written that those born of the spirit of God will be One with Him, and will be perfect as He is perfect (John 3:7, 1 Peter 1:23, John 17:23, Matthew 5:48).

You are only quoting a part of it:
Ge 3:4-5 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.