Meh

[Stranger]

What catastrophic event?

Ah! The gap theory, but that theory is about Satan destroying Gods creation after he fell. Because he was furious about man being greater than him.

No, it is about God bringing judgement upon His creation due to satan's fall. Neither man or satan will ever be greater than God. satan knows it. The best he strived for was to be 'like the Most High'. There is no greater than the Most High.

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

Agent 47 at your service.

So, how do you know your conscience is not lying to you? After all, it is part of you.

Stranger

 

[Project Panda]

No, it is about God bringing judgement upon His creation due to satan's fall. Neither man or satan will ever be greater than God. satan knows it. The best he strived for was to be 'like the Most High'. There is no greater than the Most High.

Stranger

Well I've never heard such a thing.

 

[Project Panda]

So, how do you know your conscience is not lying to you? After all, it is part of you.

Stranger

Who knows, it's probably another voice in my head the medication can't silence.

 

[amadeus]

So it's either God or an evil spirit, not sent by God I hope.

Why would you suppose then men that your best course is to back away from God rather than to move toward and to embrace Him? If He is God, is He not able in every situation?

 

[bbyrd009]

Who knows, it's probably another voice in my head the medication can't silence.

free will is a terrible and wonderful thing to unleash on a kingdom. You don't have to pay them any attention if you don't want to, let them say whatever they want. Embrace them and they will shut up. Not meaning to contrast A's embracing there.
But it is the same operation as rising above teasing; it is paying them attention that gets you

 

[Project Panda]

Why would you suppose then men that your best course is to back away from God rather than to move toward and to embrace Him? If He is God, is He not able in every situation?

I can't go to this God when I have nothing to go on.

 

[Project Panda]

free will is a terrible and wonderful thing to unleash on a kingdom. You don't have to pay them any attention if you don't want to, let them say whatever they want. Embrace them and they will shut up. Not meaning to contrast A's embracing there.
But it is the same operation as rising above teasing; it is paying them attention that gets you

Well I am in their camp, there not in mine, in fact I welcome and challenge you to come and discus your beliefs at our camp.

 

[amadeus]

I can't go to this God when I have nothing to go on.

Try going to Him with nothing in your hands or in your heart and simply really ask Him to help you get where He wants you to be.

 

[brakelite]

God knows you are but animated mud. One thing you cannot do, is hide from him. God desires your company. Your fellowship, your friendship. This means He wants you as you are. Not as you think you should be, but he wants the real you, warts and all. Being honest is the first step to healing, restoration, change. We may be wrecks…our lives in utter disarray….depressed, addicted, sick, potentially a ruin, but God’s promise is that if we come just as we are, He will not leave us as we are. So we bare all, leave nothing hidden, nothing behind, we give everything.
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
So many Christians have got things totally wrong when it comes to God’s character. They think Him austere and stern. That we need to impress Him with our ‘goodness’ and religiosity before we can expect Him to listen to us. So many are afraid to draw close to God because they don’t ‘feel’ worthy. So they choose to go through a mediator. A favorite ‘saint’ or an earthly priest. Or they ask someone else to pray for them, not believing that they will be heard but because of someone else’s ‘holiness’ then their prayers may be answered. Listen to God’s word, and let the following speak to you.

Romans 8:31 ¶ What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.

If your Creator is on your side; if the ruler of the entire universe …the heavens, the earth, the sea and everything that is in them…would rather die and forsake eternity Himself than live in eternity without you…what is there to fear in approaching Him? If God has given His own Son for you, would He not even more so give all things that would be good for you? It is God Himself who died in your place and paid in full the price of your redemption. You have already been justified.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Jesus is the only Mediator anyone needs. You can trust Him with your life…you can trust Him with the truth regarding your pain, your sorrow, your hopes, your dreams, your doubts, your fears.

 

[Stranger]

Well I've never heard such a thing.

It's in the Bible. The same one you were referring to.

Stranger

 

[Project Panda]

It's in the Bible. The same one you were referring to.

Stranger

Yep it's in there alright, along with talking snakes & donkeys, plus herds of goat men.

 

[Stranger]

Who knows, it's probably another voice in my head the medication can't silence.

That wasn't my question. How do you know your conscience, or now the voice you are listening to, isn't lying? Remember, your conscience was very articulate in post #34.

Are you listening to your conscience or not? If you don't know what you're listening to, why the anger towards God? How do you know it's God you should be angry with?

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

Yep it's in there alright, along with talking snakes & donkeys, plus herds of goat men.

That's exactly right.

Stranger

 

[Project Panda]

That's exactly right.

Stranger

Swish!

 

[Stranger]

Swish!

Is this supposed to mean something?

Stranger

 

[bbyrd009]

Well I am in their camp, there not in mine, in fact I welcome and challenge you to come and discus your beliefs at our camp.

well obv i couldn't as long as they are given a place, wadr. i suggest leaving the camp and becoming the Observer, and questioning all of your beliefs/premises, fwiw. The authors did not mean for anyone to take talking donkeys literally; "miracles are for the lost"

 

[Project Panda]

That wasn't my question. How do you know your conscience, or now the voice you are listening to, isn't lying? Remember, your conscience was very articulate in post #34.

Are you listening to your conscience or not? If you don't know what you're listening to, why the anger towards God? How do you know it's God you should be angry with?

Stranger

Name one thing you can do morally with God that I can't do morally without.

 

[Project Panda]

well obv i couldn't as long as they are given a place, wadr. i suggest leaving the camp and becoming the Observer, and questioning all of your beliefs/premises, fwiw. The authors did not mean for anyone to take talking donkeys literally; "miracles are for the lost"

You know what I'm listening to atm, Master of Puppet's.

 

[Stranger]

Name one thing you can do morally with God that I can't do morally without.

There isn't anything that you can't do morally without God.

Stranger