MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

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Spiritual Israelite

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I guess Spiritual Israelite does not want to have his opinions challenged.
That is a lie. I do not back away from any challenge to my views ever. I have explained what I believe and why. If you disagree, fine, but you can never accuse me of not wanting my views to be challenged.

We are supposed to buy into his thinking and only ask questions that conform to and correspond with his beliefs.
How does it make sense to ask me about something that only applies to your beliefs? That is for you guys to figure out, not me. Why should I need to answer questions about what would be the case if there's a physical mark of the beast when that's not what I believe? That's ridiculous. Should I ask you questions that only pertain to what is true in the case of a spiritual mark when that is not what you believe?
 

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I guess Spiritual Israelite does not want to have his opinions challenged. We are supposed to buy into his thinking and only ask questions that conform to and correspond with his beliefs.
Most of us here disagree with each other on some points and at times its maybe kinder just to ignore rather than get into a peeing contest :)
 

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That is a lie. I do not back away from any challenge to my views ever. I have explained what I believe and why. If you disagree, fine, but you can never accuse me of not wanting my views to be challenged.


How does it make sense to ask me about something that only applies to your beliefs? That is for you guys to figure out, not me. Why should I need to answer questions about what would be the case if there's a physical mark of the beast when that's not what I believe? That's ridiculous. Should I ask you questions that only pertain to what is true in the case of a spiritual mark when that is not what you believe?
I do not mind being asked any question, whether or not it corresponds to my personal beliefs. That’s what discussions are all about.

Your opinion about the mark of the beast being symbolic, not physical, was being challenged by a question that undermined that opinion.
 
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I do not mind being asked any question, whether or not it corresponds to my personal beliefs. That’s what discussions are all about.
So, tell me how someone would not be able to buy or sell without the spiritual mark of the beast? Is this a legitimate question to ask you based on your beliefs? I don't think so, but I guess you do for some reason.

Your opinion about the mark of the beast being symbolic, not physical, was being challenged by a question that undermined that opinion.
No, it was not. It's ludicrous to ask me how physical things can be bought or sold without having a physical mark of the beast when that's not my understanding of the mark of the beast. It's like me asking you the question I asked above. Why ask such a question to someone who doesn't believe the mark of the beast is spiritual rather than physical? Why not ask questions that actually pertain to what someone actually believes instead of to what they don't believe?
 

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So, tell me how someone would not be able to buy or sell without the spiritual mark of the beast? Is this a legitimate question to ask you based on your beliefs? I don't think so, but I guess you do for some reason.
I will be happy to answer the question that does not coincide with my opinion that the mark is physical.

If the mark is “spiritual” or non-physical, an attitude or mental allegiance, perhaps interrogating questions might be asked to determine your devotion to the beast system, prior to you being able to buy or sell.

No, it was not. It's ludicrous to ask me how physical things can be bought or sold without having a physical mark of the beast when that's not my understanding of the mark of the beast. It's like me asking you the question I asked above. Why ask such a question to someone who doesn't believe the mark of the beast is spiritual rather than physical? Why not ask questions that actually pertain to what someone actually believes instead of to what they don't believe?
You do not understand how discussions work.

You do not get to determine what questions are put to you.
 
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