My Lord And Savior Is Not A "SISSIFIED NEEDY JESUS", But HE is a GOD of WRATH!!

[Waiting on him]

Christs disciples. We just happen to understand the importance of contextually interpreted Scripture.

Isn’t that theology?

 

[Waiting on him]

You need to take a closer look at your above actions and personal behavior, not that of other's.

What’s inappropriate about asking a question aimed at bringing transparency?

 

[reformed1689]

OK, now I know why the same avatars . . . I wonder why people change their screen names?

Maybe it has to do with that he stopped answering my questions also.

I've found @SovereignGrace to be a good source for info!

Much love!

I didn't stop answering your questions. I may have just missed them, so feel free to ask again.

 

[reformed1689]

No, he says he is patient with us. You seem to think "us" has to mean just the people in the crowd who are irresistibly elected to salvation, even though there's nothing about that in the passage.
You are adding to scripture.

That is who the BELOVED are!

 

[reformed1689]

So your sect is the only one that believes and loves God, do you see how this sounds like a shallow answer? Are there no Lutherans Catholic Baptist Episcopalian. I personally need a more convincing answer than that.

I have never argued that Calvinists are the only Elect now have I? Nope.

 

[reformed1689]

Not according to Calvin. He believed some people are enlightened by God for a time, maybe most of their lives and then God just drops em one day because they weren't really elect.
"Experience shows that the reprobate are sometimes affected in a way so similar to the elect that even in their own judgment there is no difference between them. Hence, it is not strange, that by the Apostle a taste of heavenly gifts, and by Christ himself a temporary faith is ascribed to them. Not that they truly perceive the power of spiritual grace and the sure light of faith; but the Lord, the better to convict them, and leave them without excuse, instills into their minds such a sense of goodness as can be felt without the Spirit of adoption ... there is a great resemblance and affinity between the elect of God and those who are impressed for a time with a fading faith ... Still it is correctly said, that the reprobate believe God to be propitious to them, inasmuch as they accept the gift of reconciliation, though confusedly and without due discernment; not that they are partakers of the same faith or regeneration with the children of God; but because, under a covering of hypocrisy they seem to have a principle of faith in common with them. Nor do I even deny that God illumines their mind to this extent ... there is nothing inconsistent in this with the fact of his enlightening some with a present sense of grace, which afterwards proves evanescent." (Institutes 3.2.11).

When I am talking about believing I am talking in the biblical sense of belief, not head knowledge.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

Isn’t that theology?

Your statement requires elaboration.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

So your sect is the only one that believes and loves God, do you see how this sounds like a shallow answer? Are there no Lutherans Catholic Baptist Episcopalian. I personally need a more convincing answer than that.

He's never implied this, nor has any Reformed. It's a total misrepresentation. Why not, instead of the above troll fodder, talk with truths instead of fabricated stories? In other words, behave like a Christian?

Oh, again, @Jane_Doe22? It is duly noted you liked his post which literally lied about a person. It's interesting that you like these things often. Do you love lies, and when others make them?

 

[Waiting on him]

Your statement requires elaboration.

No, I believe you guys have made it clear to me, how you know your the elect.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

When I am talking about believing I am talking in the biblical sense of belief, not head knowledge.

It appears difficult, if not impossible to keep some here in context of statements. If they're not doing that, they revert to asserting things we've never implied.

 

[reformed1689]

Are you guys presenting Christ or theology?

Technically, you can't present Christ without theology.

 

[reformed1689]

It appears difficult, if not impossible to keep some here in context of statements. If they're not doing that, they revert to asserting things we've never implied.

You mean like saying Calvinists believe they are the only ones going to Heaven?

 

[Preacher4Truth]

No, I believe you guys have made it clear to me, how you know your the elect.

Really? I can't wait to hear your next erected straw man explanation. Have at it!

 

[Waiting on him]

He's never implied this, nor has any Reformed. It's a total misrepresentation. Why not, instead of the above troll fodder, talk with truths instead of fabricated stories? In other words, behave like a Christian?

Oh, again, @Jane_Doe22? It is duly noted you liked his post which literally lied about a person. It's interesting that you like these things often. Do you love lies, and when others make them?

You sir know nothing about me,

 

[reformed1689]

No, I believe you guys have made it clear to me, how you know your the elect.

I'm not convinced you actually understand or fairly represent our position.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

You mean like saying Calvinists believe they are the only ones going to Heaven?

Exactamundo.

But at the same time, as you know, only the elect will.

 

[reformed1689]

But at the same time, as you know, only the elect will.

That's what Scripture tells us.

 

[Waiting on him]

I'm not convinced you actually understand or fairly represent our position.

This is why I asked you to represent it and I have received so far is we understand scripture in context, and we love God.

 

[reformed1689]

There's your straw man, I knew you could do it! Now, go fetch an example of where I did this.

That's right, you cant, you just pulled that accusation out of thin air. Bible calls that bearing false witness, i.e. lying.

Did you mean that for me?

 

[Preacher4Truth]

That's what Scripture tells us.

Glorious truth that people hate. Lot's of Romans 9:20 people around here.