My Lord And Savior Is Not A "SISSIFIED NEEDY JESUS", But HE is a GOD of WRATH!!

[SovereignGrace]

That's a go to accusation for people on here. You are abusive, you are a bully. Yet that's not the case.

I’ve been more civil to them than what’s been reciprocated.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Where have I suggested your the bully?

That post where you said the bully forbids it I thought was directed towards me.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

No I do not have that power. That comes from God, per John 1:12.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Born of a quickening (life giving) Spirit. 2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

 

[SovereignGrace]

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Born of a quickening (life giving) Spirit.

Power also means right to become, which is the better word choice.

 

[Waiting on him]

You asked me if I had the power, not been given the power. Huge difference. I said I was given the right to become the son of God. Please do not twist my words

Oh, I see your stating, you will manifest Him at a later date?
I agree

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Power also means right to become, which is the better word choice.

right to become or “deny”
2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

 

[Waiting on him]

The kingdom of God comes in power, not in word.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

That's a go to accusation for people on here. You are abusive, you are a bully. Yet that's not the case.

Yes, prove ones religion a cult with documentation, or in error, with Scripture, then one is called abusive and not like Christ...

 

[Waiting on him]

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Born of a quickening (life giving) Spirit. 2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

Agreed.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Oh, I see your stating, you will manifest Him at a later date?
I agree

Why the insults? I have been given the right to become His Son.

 

[reformed1689]

Yes, prove ones religion a cult with documentation, or in error, with Scripture, then one is called abusive and not like Christ...

Which is ironic since they are not of Christ so how would they know?

 

[reformed1689]

I’ve been more civil to them than what’s been reciprocated.

Oh trust me, the way people here talk I must be the direct product of satan himself with my meanness, bullying, abusive behavior.

 

[Waiting on him]

Why the insults? I have been given the right to become His Son.

Then manifest Him.

 

[reformed1689]

Then manifest Him.

I think first you must point out how he is not manifesting Him.

 

[SovereignGrace]

right to become or “deny”
2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

You’re using two different words transliterated power. In 2 Timothy 3:5 power is δύναμις (dynamis) and it means power, strength, ability. It’s where the word dynamite comes from.

In John 1:12, the word power is transliterated from ἐξουσία (exousia) and it means power, ability, faculty, liberty, license, authority, rule, right, etc. Context determines what English word is used. Greek words tend to have a wide semantic range.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

Oh trust me, the way people here talk I must be the direct product of satan himself with my meanness, bullying, abusive behavior.

They want people who are proven in a cult to go to hell, so something inside them tells them to come and tell those in a cult, that are deceived, "It's OK, you're a Christian."

 

[SovereignGrace]

Then manifest Him.

I do every day of my life. Does cutting me down build you up?

 

[SovereignGrace]

I think first you must point out how he is not manifesting Him.

No. He just wants to hurl insults.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Good night guys. I worked last night and need to pour myself into bed.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

No. He just wants to hurl insults.

Wonder what he's manifesting?

 

[SovereignGrace]

I think this needs posited here for reading...


"If you are clear in your theology and in your doctrine you will know that no natural man can believe the gospel... So if you expect a natural man to believe the gospel simply because you are putting it to him, you are denying the gospel; you have not understood it yourself."

Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones

“We possess neither the ability, free will, power, nor the righteousness to repair ourselves and escape the wrath of God. It must all be God’s work, Christ’s work, or there is no salvation.”

Michael Horton

“God Himself supplies the necessary condition to come to Jesus. That’s why it is sola gratia, by grace alone, that we are saved.”

R.C. Sproul

“The gospel is the power of God. It does not depend upon me and my faithfulness. If it did we would all be lost. It is God’s power to keep, to justify and to sanctify and to glorify—to take us right into heaven itself. . . nothing can stop it.”

Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones