Nation born in a day in 1948?

[Jay Ross]

Sorry, but your sense of Biblical timelines is way............. off.

God speaking to Abram (Abraham):

Gen 15:13-16
13 And He said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;
14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age.
16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
KJV

1. "thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs" = Egypt

2. "and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years" = the children of Israel as slaves in Egypt.

3. "And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge..." = Pharaoh and Egypt

4. "... in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full." = after the 400 years that the children of Israel would serve under Egypt. Then they would return back to the land God promised Abram, which is where the Amorites in that time were dwelling and in iniquity.


THAT... return to the holy land was 400 years after God had said that to Abraham, NOT 1948, which instead is way... off! The above timing was only about the children of Israel FIRST ENTERING the promised lands! They hadn't even become a 'nation' yet at that time, having just left Egypt!

Sorry to embarrass you, but you need to pay better attention to the Scripture and think.

Ah Davy, why would I be embarrassed by your ignorance?

There are three separate prophecies contained in Genesis 15:13-16. The first prophecy is about God bringing Israel out of Egypt. The second prophecy was for Abraham that he would live in peace and go to his fathers and be buried when he was old. The third prophecy was that at some time in the future, his descendants would return to the land after four generations/ages have passed and when they do, the iniquities of the Amorite people will not yet be complete. Please note that the first and third prophecy was interrupted by the second prophecy and as such the third prophecy is independent of the first prophecy. You on the other hand want to combine the first and third prophecy into just one prophecy which is not the case.

Because of Israel's continual idolatrous worship during the first and second ages of their existence God scattered them throughout all of the Gentile nations for a further two ages or part thereof until the designated time of the Gentiles trampling God's sanctuary and His Earthly Hosts has been completed.

It is after that time that God will turn once again to gather those of Israel back to Himself and will plant them once more in His earth, such that they can draw sustenance once more from Him/Christ and be taught the finer points of Israel's, i.e., Christ's, religion based on the foundation stone that will come down out of heaven and become the highest mountain/religion in all of the earth such that it towers above all the other religions on the earth and that they get grounded into dust on the threshing room floor to be blown away by the wind. During the fifth age of Israel's existence, those of Israel will be once more gathered to God, where they are living scattered throughout the whole world, and they will worship Him and become once more a Kingdom of Priests, a Holy Nation and God's Possession among the Nations/Gentiles so as to become a Blessing to all of the peoples of the earth.

This, in a nutshell, will be the full story of Israel. To modify this story from what God had originally intended is to deny that God is God.

Oh well Davy, like many others, you have been sold a story that is not God's story of His redemptive love for all of the people of the world.

Many "Christians" will need to repent of their idolatrous worship of a "false Christ."

 

[dad]

Yes, his idea is way... out of context with the Scripture.

Anyone who 'carefully' reads that Genesis 15:13-16 passage and realizes that the 400 years and the 4th generation are the same thing God is speaking about, along with His punishing that nation which the children of Israel were slaves under, ought to make it easy to figure what time their return to the lands of promise then was. That would be the time of Moses and Joshua.

I won't argue with that. To say the least, claiming that it must point to 1948 is just an opinion, and not really a strong one.

 

[Keturah]

I have a question, if I may.

I have read & heard from sources & boots on the ground what is happening today in "Israel".

What I have a problem with is  IF the nation Israel of today is the point of fulfillment for the promise, or is it within that nation. The Jewish folks are treating others around them much as they were done in the wide-spread anti- semitism and atrocities done to them during WW2.

I do not believe all that claim to be Jews are true Hebrews. They were dispersed to many nations in which they inter-married; blood became mingled!

Are the promises for a group or tribe within the nation Israel or the whole of Israel is my question?

 

[dad]

I have a question, if I may.

I have read & heard from sources & boots on the ground what is happening today in "Israel".

What I have a problem with is  IF the nation Israel of today is the point of fulfillment for the promise, or is it within that nation. The Jewish folks are treating others around them much as they were done in the wide-spread anti- semitism and atrocities done to them during WW2.

I do not believe all that claim to be Jews are true Hebrews. They were dispersed to many nations in which they inter-married; blood became mingled!

Are the promises for a group or tribe within the nation Israel or the whole of Israel is my question?

Only the ones left alive in the very end who believe. The vast majority of the Jewish people will be killed before that according to the bible. In the end, the survivors will finally say 'uncle' and believe.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

How abou the rest I posted from the same chapter? Or do you want to dissect a verse and apply it as you wish?

Well if you understood how Jews and even Jesus looked at prophecies you would know that one passage could have multiple prophecies with multiple time fulfilment.

But the fact God would brin gIsrael back to the land God covenanted to give them as an eternal possession is a well established biblical fact.

So what? Nothing about that suggests God restored and brought them back.

So what? Having some blasphemous silly temple one day has zero to do with whether GOD restored them.

Well in order to rebuild the temple, they have to be back in the land as they are!

You call it blasphemous, Gods Word calls it something else.

 

[dad]

Well if you understood how Jews and even Jesus looked at prophecies you would know that one passage could have multiple prophecies with multiple time fulfilment.

I know all that. This does not mean all things must have 1948 inserted though.

But the fact God would brin gIsrael back to the land God covenanted to give them as an eternal possession is a well established biblical fact.

We all know that. The issue is when. Will it be after they are saved and He protects and restores them, or was it 1948?

Well in order to rebuild the temple, they have to be back in the land as they are!

You call it blasphemous, Gods Word calls it something else.

Who cares about a temple that has animal sacrifices built before they get saved and that has nothing to do with Jesus? How could that not be blasphemous?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I have a question, if I may.

I have read & heard from sources & boots on the ground what is happening today in "Israel".

What I have a problem with is  IF the nation Israel of today is the point of fulfillment for the promise, or is it within that nation. The Jewish folks are treating others around them much as they were done in the wide-spread anti- semitism and atrocities done to them during WW2.

I do not believe all that claim to be Jews are true Hebrews. They were dispersed to many nations in which they inter-married; blood became mingled!

Are the promises for a group or tribe within the nation Israel or the whole of Israel is my question?

Look my Australian dad's dad looked at going back to Israel, but like the German Jews pre WW2 why the hell would anyone want to live in a dump like that ! truly !
Why would my any of my past Grand dads give up all of their lands here for nothing in the Land idiots call Israel, no prospects going their to live like that and that's the issue with the German Jews. The fact is that they did not want to live in the State, they had everything in Germany in fact, it was a good life ! even tho my lot left well the two Sons came here to Australia, not in the same year tho. but they had a go at it, because it was very profitable !
Their is no way that they would move to that State, one would be a complete total moron, you may get some that are no body's set to go back in Hitler's day and after with all of the enticements that were given.

If it was not for the likes of Hitler the Jews would never of came to the State in fact.

Hitler created the State ! It was his baby, not to mention Hitler was a Jew and related to Rothschild, who controlled the whole Game and has said so in fact.

But as to how do they get 6 million Jews to turn up in the State they call Israel ? Fat chance ! the German Jews were not stupid ! So they devised a Plan to wipe them out ! But the German Jews knew who was behind all this and pointed them out ! but Hitler kicked the Jews out of the Media and only the so called Zionist Jews could print Media. But the Majority of German Jews did not by into the Zionist lies and hated them and called them out as trash.
So what to do ! The number 6 million was stated like 3 years before the killings took place, in Zionist print Media.
It was well played, bringing in all them bastard type Jews from the East that were kicked out of Russia for creating so much trouble that lead to Communism dominating over the Russian people.

So you see not all Jews are the same ilk, but they are seen as the same by the majority of people because they themselves are idiots ! because if they could of distinguish between who is who and what is what, things would of gone much better, but that's Socialism for you, one can not sort out who is who because under socialism all are the same, Socialism does not educate it only indoctrinates idiots ! who can not truly think for themselves much past their own nose.

Jews value education and are the best Doctors etc you name it, they are always at the pointy end of top of the Class, but as to Jews they have no Grace, so they abuse all around them in general. but for they who came to Christ and became worthy Christians who have Grace.
But for the average idiot they are at the mercy of the Leadership of any Political Party to be manipulated at will, Gay Pride nowadays is one example of the common idiot spastic mentality. They are all easy moulded ! The Gay Pride is such a example of Nazi Pride back of the Hitler era ! Different yes but the same deranged intent creation to be a lowlife dominating over others like a deranged total moron.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I know all that. This does not mean all things must have 1948 inserted though.

Not all things, but specifically those things that God prophesied in returning Israel to her land after being scattered to the four corners of the earth, to prepare them to pass under His rod of Judgment, to purge the rebels and prepare the rest to receive Her Messiah. these are all pertinent. what people object to is that it has been on going for 74 years.

We all know that. The issue is when. Will it be after they are saved and He protects and restores them, or was it 1948?

If we accept Gods Word as written, then it is before they are saved as a whole nation

Who cares about a temple that has animal sacrifices built before they get saved and that has nothing to do with Jesus? How could that not be blasphemous?

Well we can argue about the religious significance, but the Bible declares they will rebuild the temple so it is part and parcel of eschatology, whether deems it blasphemous or not.

 

[dad]

Not all things, but specifically those things that God prophesied in returning Israel to her land after being scattered to the four corners of the earth, to prepare them to pass under His rod of Judgment, to purge the rebels and prepare the rest to receive Her Messiah. these are all pertinent. what people object to is that it has been on going for 74 years.

When God returns them He will destroy their enemies and protect them. So we can safely rule out 1948.

If we accept Gods Word as written, then it is before they are saved as a whole nation

If you mean when He saved them from Egypt, yes. If you mean when God brings them back and is their King etc...that has not happened yet.

Well we can argue about the religious significance, but the Bible declares they will rebuild the temple so it is part and parcel of eschatology, whether deems it blasphemous or not.

That depends which temple you are talking about. Perhaps you are thinking of the one that is built after He returns rather than the on defiled by the AntiChrist in the Tribulation?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

When God returns them He will destroy their enemies and protect them. So we can safely rule out 1948.

No! Ezekiel refutes that. Matt. 24 refutes that, REv. 12 refutes that. Jesus will destroy Israels enemies when the antichrist takes the armies of teh eaerth and marches on Israel.

 

[dad]

No! Ezekiel refutes that. Matt. 24 refutes that, REv. 12 refutes that. Jesus will destroy Israels enemies when the antichrist takes the armies of teh eaerth and marches on Israel.

No idea what you are talking about. He destroys them when He returns to earth.

 

[MatthewG]

The nation of Israel ended with Jacob with the exceedingly increase of the Hebrews; which finally Christ would come forth.

The Israelites were overtaken by the Babylonians and also the Romans (the second and final time). In show casing the divorcement of the earthly Israel upon the Lords return because the new heavenly kingdom is now established which people come into the kingdom by faith in the gospel of Christ and are adopted by the Father.

But as a nation in 1984; I don’t think that has in affects in which early history has to offer.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No idea what you are talking about. He destroys them when He returns to earth.

And yes that is when Jesus returns, when He descends to do battle with the armies of the world! these are the enemies of Israel. without going into the dozens of passages, the antichrist after his resurrection and the establishment of the mark moves against all Jews and Christians. (these are they who will refuse the mark) Ultimately when god allows it, the three frog like spirits are sent to marshal the worlds armies to the Valley of Jezreel ( Armageddon) to march against the Jews in Petra to wipe them out! for Satan knows if He can wipe out the Jews so no Jew is left alive to say "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord" then Jesus would not return! So he moves against teh Jews let alive to the place where Rev. 12 and Matt. 24 say they flee to that God had prepared in advance and feeds them there for 3 1/2 years.

 

[dad]

And yes that is when Jesus returns, when He descends to do battle with the armies of the world! these are the enemies of Israel. without going into the dozens of passages, the antichrist after his resurrection and the establishment of the mark moves against all Jews and Christians. (these are they who will refuse the mark) Ultimately when god allows it, the three frog like spirits are sent to marshal the worlds armies to the Valley of Jezreel ( Armageddon) to march against the Jews in Petra to wipe them out!

Petra is something I have not seen in the bible as the destination for all Jews and Christians as you allude to. Nor is it mentioned as the destination where all armies of the earth head to as you also infer. Not sure why you 'debate' here. I guess it is to preach pet/cult doctrines.

for Satan knows if He can wipe out the Jews so no Jew is left alive to say "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord" then Jesus would not return! So he moves against teh Jews let alive to the place where Rev. 12 and Matt. 24 say they flee to that God had prepared in advance and feeds them there for 3 1/2 years.

OK, so we know He comes in the end, and no one can change that. The point you avoided was that this is when He destroys the enemies of the newly saved Israel, and restores them etc etc. Not in 1948

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Petra is something I have not seen in the bible as the destination for all Jews and Christians as you allude to. Nor is it mentioned as the destination where all armies of the earth head to as you also infer. Not sure why you 'debate' here. I guess it is to preach pet/cult doctrines.

It is and when I have time, I will show you why the bible designates Petra as to where the Jews go.

But for now I can give you Isaiah to ponder:

Isaiah 63

King James Version

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63 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?
3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.
7 I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the Lord, and the praises of the Lord, according to all that the Lord hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses.
8 For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Saviour.

This has never occurred yet and it is a direct reference to Jesus!

When Jesus returns it is to make war!

Rev. 19:

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

 

[dad]

It is and when I have time, I will show you why the bible designates Petra as to where the Jews go.

But for now I can give you Isaiah to ponder:

Isaiah 63​

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King James Version​

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63 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?
3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.
7 I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the Lord, and the praises of the Lord, according to all that the Lord hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses.
8 For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Saviour.

This has never occurred yet and it is a direct reference to Jesus!

When Jesus returns it is to make war!

Rev. 19:

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Of course He returns to take over the world. You mentioned it all centered on Petra. Don't think so. Many may flee there. Not all. The direction Jesus is seen coming from is from Edom in that prophesy. That does not mean He does not proceed to Jerusalem etc as well. Nor does it mean all believers were holed up in a little town in Edom.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Of course He returns to take over the world. You mentioned it all centered on Petra. Don't think so. Many may flee there. Not all. The direction Jesus is seen coming from is from Edom in that prophesy. That does not mean He does not proceed to Jerusalem etc as well. Nor does it mean all believers were holed up in a little town in Edom.

No but Jews from Israel will flee there that will become the all Israel who gets saved. they go there most likely as unbelievers.

Petra is found in Edom. and we know Jesus goes to Jerusalem for He ascends Mount olive and splits it in two.

I would imagine Jews in America will find another place to flee if they are to be counted as believers in the three days before Jesus returns.

 

[dad]

No but Jews from Israel will flee there that will become the all Israel who gets saved. they go there most likely as unbelievers.

I saw no bible verses that said all Jews will hole up in Petra.
Nor that all the ones on earth saved that are Jews will be in some rock city either.

Petra is found in Edom. and we know Jesus goes to Jerusalem for He ascends Mount olive and splits it in two.

I know none of that actually (except that there is a Petra in Jordan). Prove it. I do not recall Jesus 'ascending' to the mount of Olives. I had thought He descended there.

I would imagine Jews in America will find another place to flee if they are to be counted as believers in the three days before Jesus returns.

Jews the world over as well as new believers in Christ will need to resist the AntiChrist government one would think.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I saw no bible verses that said all Jews will hole up in Petra.
Nor that all the ones on earth saved that are Jews will be in some rock city either.


I know none of that actually (except that there is a Petra in Jordan). Prove it. I do not recall Jesus 'ascending' to the mount of Olives. I had thought He descended there.

Jews the world over as well as new believers in Christ will need to resist the AntiChrist government one would think.

Later today I will post the verses that show that Petra is where the Jews flee according to these verses:

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

Matt. 24:

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

So Jews will flee to the mountains.


Rev. 12:

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Israel also must flee to the wilderness (and mountains) to a preprepared place! Where God cares for Israel 3 1/2 years.

Petra is in the trans-Jordanian desert and in the mountains!

 

[dad]

Later today I will post the verses that show that Petra is where the Jews flee according to these verses:

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

Matt. 24:

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

So Jews will flee to the mountains.


Rev. 12:

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Israel also must flee to the wilderness (and mountains) to a preprepared place! Where God cares for Israel 3 1/2 years.

Petra is in the trans-Jordanian desert and in the mountains!

wilderness from the Greek means this

érēmos

1. solitary, lonely, desolate, uninhabited
   1. used of places
      1. a desert, wilderness
      2. deserted places, lonely regions
      3. an uncultivated region fit for pasturage
   2. used of persons
      1. deserted by others
      2. deprived of the aid and protection of others, especially of friends, acquaintances, kindred
      3. bereft 1b
   3. of a flock deserted by the shepherd 1b
   4. of a woman neglected by her husband, from whom the husband withholds himself

Strong's
Of uncertain affinity; lonesome, that is, (by implication) waste (usually as a noun, G5561 being implied): - desert, desolate, solitary, wilderness.
Mounce's
deserted, remote, solitary; as a noun, desert, uninhabited wilderness, or grasslands, implying in some contexts to be a forsaken, desolate place
Translated Words
NAS (49) - DESOLATE, 2; WILDERNESS, 7; desert, 2; deserts, 1; desolate, 4; open, 1; pasture, 1; secluded, 5; unpopulated, 1; wilderness, 25



I am not convinced that only one village fits that description.



According to this link Zooming In on Petra

-at it's peak it was home to 30,000 people. If perhaps millions of people flee how would they ALL fit?

Another site suggests the population was much smaller.

"
Some writers have estimated that Petra might have had a population of 20,000 to 30,000 inhabitants. Interestingly enough, few academic sources substantiate these figures. (originally derived by a journalist). There was a limited amount of room within Petra’s city walls. If we calculated, say, 10 people to a household, this would come to at least 2000 large houses. The problem with this is that there was very little room within the city proper for private housing. The great majority all of the buildings uncovered to date have been public buildings. As an example, consider the market places. For years, part of Petra was deemed as having upper, middle, and lower marketplaces. When archaeologists decided to excavate the lower market in 1998, they discovered a series of public pools, gardens, and waterworks.

Most archeologists, however, now believe that Petra was a large, urban center. The Petra Scrolls clearly tell us of the crowded living conditions within the city during the Byzantine era, but little is known of Petra during its purely Nabataean days from around 60 BC to 200 AD.

As the Nabataeans were a nomadic people who traditionally lived in tents, it is assumed that for the first several hundred years of their occupation of the Inner Kingdom that they lived in tents, and did not erect stone houses. This is true in most of the Nabataean cities. It is only during the latter part of the Nabataean kingdom that suddenly the Nabataeans began constructing houses, and then they were often of incredible size, varying from 600 to 2000 square meters.

So, did people live in cities surrounded by the dead? The answer is not clear, but it may have been that most of the Nabataeans lived in tents scattered across the countryside, or in small centers such as Selah. Many also lived in smaller villages raising camels and horses. This would have required large tracts of grazing space. Others would be away with the caravans or trading ships.

So it only makes sense that they would cluster their public buildings around one spot, where the temples and Royal Courts and tombs were located. As for housing, perhaps for many years, and particularly during public festivals, the majority of people lived in tents in various tenting places around the city."

Petra

Petra is the best known of all of the Nabataean cities. Today thousands of tourists visit this site and stare in awe at the huge funerary monuments. While there are over 1000 monuments in Petra, there …

nabataea.net

The idea of all believers fleeing to this little place for years seems unrealistic. It also does not strike me as the place God prepared for them all.