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amigo de christo

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How long will they stay fresh? Because it was already opened . . .

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Beware of this all inclusive false love gospel . I dont know if you know about it .
But they are teaching all religoins now , even christendom , that we all serve the same GOD
and that if we just have love and good works and unity with one another , WE ARE SAVED . ITS A LIE FROM HELL . WOULD you agree .
CAUSE JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY and WE must confess HIM by mouth and believe from the heart that GOD has rose HIM from the dead
TO BE SAVED . But this is not what the all inclusive love lie says . ITS FATHER IS SATAN .
 

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Yes the confidence part , THAT is all about having confidence IN HIM , rejoicing IN the hope we have IN HIM .
That is exactly my point. I have ALL confidence in Jesus, and ZERO confidence in me.

"You have to keep believing to keep being alive in Christ" requires my own ability to keep believing, and calls for confidence in myself, that "I can do it", after all, I must, right?

But I have NO confidence in myself. None. Not a bit.

My own zeal, my own obedience, my own anything, is always, will always be incomplete, and will not bring salvation. My confidence is in Christ Jesus, and in Him alone.

Much love!
 
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At least the old OSAS used to say they never knew him . Today we got us some saying , EVEN IF ONE DID STOP BELEIVING in HIM
they would still be saved . WHICH JESUS never said . Fact is HE warned about the false ones
verses the true ones . And the true ones NEVER STOP BELIEVING . The problem is , what JESUS are we following .
THIS is what is going to make all the difference in the end . God put a love for truth on my heart , SO its in the bible i stay .
Loving all things JESUS taught , the apostels taught , loving all truth .
The question is , how many love the truth , and how many love just truths and not the whole truth .
When i say examine to see if one is walking in the faith , i mean Open those bibles and see IF THAT is the JESUS we are following
IS it the apostels doctrine we are believing , OR is it men who twist things . I pray we all return to lots of bible reading daily .
As well as listening to it on audio . Just feast on it . IF one has the SPIRIT , things will get clearer and clearer over time .
SO my call today is , RETURN TO BIBLES EVERYONE . And start feasting .
Again. These would be licentious. Whom Jude thoroughly defeated with his words.

I would not relate these with eternally secure believers (OSAS)
 

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That is the reason one does fall away . They were never truly of us .
Yes indeed . And if we have the SPIRIT then we would be exhorting one another with all things JESUS taught and the apostels taught .
We must . What worries me the most , is that i see many folks following another jesus . That scares me for them .
If our JESUS is not the biblical one , then our JESUS is NOT JESUS . And i rest my entire case on what i just said .
if anyone teach a different gospel..... Amen
 
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The Bible makes it clear that you are wrong. You can ignore the scriptures, you explain them away...but they are still there and stand for truth. And again I will point out that there is not religious and non-religious sections in the Bible and just like there is not legalist and non-legalist sections in the Bible....You only believe that because your beliefs are based on cherry picking the scriptures.
Is this why you believe what you believe?

It is silly to attach someone who disagrees with you in this way. when this same argument can be made against you.
 

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Any version of JESUS that accepts sin and calls sin good , AINT JESUS .
Any version of JESUS that preaches there is no need to beleive in Christ , that if we just have good works and love we are saved ,
IS NOT JESUS . ITS THE DEVIL . SATAN has made himself the all inclusive love god that so many who profess to be christain even follow .
THEY are worshipping the dragon , NOT GOD . they are following the spirit of anti Christ , NOT CHRIST .
I SHUN that all inclusive pope led lie of foul doctrine to hades .
I have never heard anyone. Even people I would classify as Licentiousness. Call sin good.
 

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Beware of this all inclusive false love gospel . I dont know if you know about it .
But they are teaching all religoins now , even christendom , that we all serve the same GOD
and that if we just have love and good works and unity with one another , WE ARE SAVED . ITS A LIE FROM HELL . WOULD you agree .
CAUSE JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY and WE must confess HIM by mouth and believe from the heart that GOD has rose HIM from the dead
TO BE SAVED . But this is not what the all inclusive love lie says . ITS FATHER IS SATAN .
That is correct. The strong delusion of the end times, this false all inclusiveness is growing.

The only way to be saved is through the biblical Lord Jesus Christ. We must stay grounded in our bibles, to keep on the straight and narrow path of our Lord.


“that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:9-10‬ ‭
 
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Is this why you believe what you believe?

It is silly to attach someone who disagrees with you in this way. when this same argument can be made against you.
So far from the truth. False accusation. I do not divide the bible...that is my whole point.
There is nothing in the Bible about sin and sin some more and go to heaven!
If anything it is satanic.
 

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God forgive me... I couldn't help myself... and I guess on top of trying to stay away from this topic... I will have to ADD not even reading up on it.... however.... DO YOU HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN THE ABOVE??? IT IS THE BLOOD OF CHRIST that saves us.... NO BLOOD ATONEMENT from CHRIST... and NO SALVATION for ANYONE.... People are severely under-estimating the POWER of the BLOOD... Your example here is absolutely off kilter.... If you trust JESUS... you have to trust the BLOOD....

This was way too important to ignore.

Back to the beach.... and I am really trying to be good... stay out of trouble.... DO good too... It's proving to be a bit of a chore... but... LOL
Without Jesus there would be no blood...you going to trust in His blood..?..before you trust in Him?
God forgive me... I couldn't help myself... and I guess on top of trying to stay away from this topic... I will have to ADD not even reading up on it.... however.... DO YOU HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN THE ABOVE??? IT IS THE BLOOD OF CHRIST that saves us.... NO BLOOD ATONEMENT from CHRIST... and NO SALVATION for ANYONE.... People are severely under-estimating the POWER of the BLOOD... Your example here is absolutely off kilter.... If you trust JESUS... you have to trust the BLOOD....

This was way too important to ignore.

Back to the beach.... and I am really trying to be good... stay out of trouble.... DO good too... It's proving to be a bit of a chore... but... LOL
Yes...Just what I said...

Many Osasers say He is saviour but will not say He is Lord.
Luke 6:46
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?


The Foundation is Jesus Christ...as scripture says..
1 Corinthians 3:11
For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

The foundation for many OSASers is Justification, not belief in Jesus whereby we are born from above with New Life.

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Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

As a former Osaser, I did not always intend to follow.....but You can't be a Christian without being a disciple.[intending to follow]

Those alive in the kingdom know their sins are forgiven by His blood.

1 John 1:7

But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.


Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. JOHN 6:53
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63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

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So far from the truth. False accusation. I do not divide the bible...that is my whole point.
There is nothing in the Bible about sin and sin some more and go to heaven!
If anything it is satanic.
There is nothing about the Bible that says don’t sin and you might get to heaven either

if anything that is satanic

see, it goes both ways
 
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Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

48 I am that bread of life.

49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
 

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There is nothing about the Bible that says don’t sin and you might get to heaven either

if anything that is satanic

see, it goes both ways

LOL You have to understand the basics. LOL Christianity is not a religion of poor moral conduct or tolerance thereof. Christian beliefs are not a sinful path to a heavenly reward. I feel like I am talking to the intellect of a room full of door knobs. They were first called the "Way" do you think it was a religion that taught the way to sin? Why do I have to explain this to you people!

Christianity is a religion of morals and conduct and responsibility. The whole Bible is about morals and conduct! What does it take to get that through your heads. Do you think that Christ and Apostles set the example for immoral behavior and irresponsibility? Can you find one scripture were sinning is condoned? Sin is condemned at every turn in the Bible. It is like you people are Anti-Bible, Anti-good, and Anti-God.

If you want to go to heaven....Beee Goood!