new version of OSAS?

[Grailhunter]

He would call me a Former Wretched Sinner, Saved by the Grace Of God because he Rested in the Gospel Of Grace.....

You can argue that with the devil. You can be saved and if so by Grace. But if you sin enough, according to the Bible you will go to hell by sin...Christ's saving Grace is not on trial on Judgment Day, but your deeds are. And it is by your deeds that Christ will judge you to hell. You can do your preaching from there, which seems like what you do any way.

 

[amigo de christo]

You are always “ harping” on this stuff ! Keep at it....lol....it’s a “ good” thing to “harp” about....God Bless...

Try and visualize this . I get voted in as pope . can you imagine the news on that . First day you would hear
things crashing , glass smashing , idols getting topped over . That would make the news of the century .
Best guess i would be the most short lived pope in history . Drowned , shot , poisoned . But someone has to clean up and clean out that house
my friend . And since more and more protestant leaders and peoples are heading right to it , someone has to warn .

 

[Grailhunter]

I am “ like Jesus” in a few ways.....I am a friend to Sinners....I detest “ self- Righteousness” and I am misunderstood and hated by Religious people.....I am also kind, compassionate and eager to Forgive people....it was said that Jesus “ went around “ doing Good” —- I got “ that” going for me also...

Then you need to preach being Good....Christ is your example.

 

[Grailhunter]

Who’s defenition of good

yours or Gods?

If you have to ask that question....you are in trouble.
People do not define morals....they are well defined in the Bible....try some.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

And if you think you are sinless

Yet the scripture says that you must be sinless after being born again.

That is an inconvenient fact for men in the flesh.

 

[amigo de christo]

Then you need to preach being Good....Christ is your example.

Bring him the list that paul gave to timothy about widows . Let me sum it up , IF she has followed EVERY GOOD WORK DILIGENTLY .
Was paul not resting in Christ . SURE HE was . Check this out .
But if any provides not , A DOING ACTION , for his own specially for those of his own household he has DENIED THE FAITH
and , AND IS WORSE than an INFIDEL . And that was paul saying this .

 

[Michiah-Imla]

"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin" (1 John 3:9)

 

[Grailhunter]

Yet the scripture says that you must be sinless after being born again.

That is an inconvenient fact for men in the flesh.

Again it about understanding the total Bible. The scriptures recognizes clearly that we are going to sin, and when we do we have advocate in Christ who will forgive us. It is a simple matter of doing your best to be good and not making a career out of sinning.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

The scriptures recognizes clearly that we are going to sin

No it does not.

"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin" (1 John 3:9)

THAT’S CLEAR.

 

[amigo de christo]

Again it about understanding the total Bible. The scriptures recognizes clearly that we are going to sin, and when we do we have advocate in Christ who will forgive us. It is a simple matter of doing your best to be good and not making a career out of sinning.

Well lets read the whole thing . You forgot one part . IF WE CONFESS OUR FAULTS HE is faithful and just to forgive us .
As you well know . I had to bring that reminder up . Cause many hate the R word . as in REPENT .

 

[Grailhunter]

No it does not.

"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin" (1 John 3:9)

THAT’S CLEAR.

And you think I do not know that LOL

1st John 1:8-9 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

We are going to sin...no doubt....but that does not mean that we cannot try to be good the best we can...and trying is not living a lifestyle sin.

 

[Grailhunter]

Well lets read the whole thing . You forgot one part . IF WE CONFESS OUR FAULTS HE is faithful and just to forgive us .
As you well know . I had to bring that reminder up . Cause many hate the R word . as in REPENT .

Post 2851 ? LOL

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Many follow the prosperity gospel . they have the love of money . And that is no good .
Many embrace homosexuality or abortion and yet that is not good . And they still claim they follow Christ .
Many examples i could give . You are loved my friend .

Many claim to follow Christ it does not mean they are gods children
Licentious people have never met Christ, even if they go to church, as Jude said, their destruction was predetermined

 

[Eternally Grateful]

If you have to ask that question....you are in trouble.
People do not define morals....they are well defined in the Bible....try some.

Yep, they are defined by the word,

whoever keeps the whole law yet STUMBlES in one point, is guilty

the penalty of sin is death

Gods standard is perfection.

man likes to water down gods standard and claim they are good

I refuse to do this

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yet the scripture says that you must be sinless after being born again.

That is an inconvenient fact for men in the flesh.

No it does not

A baby is not sinless, the corinthian church was not sinless and they needed fed milk

 

[amigo de christo]

Many claim to follow Christ it does not mean they are gods children
Licentious people have never met Christ, even if they go to church, as Jude said, their destruction was predetermined

True . i was once one of them . And many they are within many a church these days .
But the lambs heed not the voice of strangers . The lambs HEED THE VOICE OF THEIR GLORIOUS KING JESUS .
LET THE LORD BE PRAISED .

 

[Eternally Grateful]

"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin" (1 John 3:9)

In the Greek, this speaks of ongoing habitual sin, not personal sins

if we could not sin first John 1: 9 is meaningless

 

[amigo de christo]

In the Greek, this speaks of ongoing habitual sin, not personal sins

if we could not sin first John 1: 9 is meaningless

Correct . Their is a pattern for error . We confess and repent of it . IF we see others in error , we correct them as well .
We must stick to the original pattern JESUS first gave and the apostles later kept and taught .
LET THE GLORIOUS LORD BE PRAISED .

 

[amigo de christo]

I like the way paul said it as well . LET all who name the name of JESUS CHRIST depart from inquity .
IN another place HE says let it not once be named among you as becometh saints .
We have to get much more serious . The churches are in shambles and we must do all to point folks to the biblical JESUS
the biblical pattern for all things .

 

[Michiah-Imla]

And you think I do not know that LOL

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:8-9)

They who still have sins have not been born again.

Because:

"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin" (1 John 3:9)

And:

"And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." (Galatians 5:24)