No Righteousness of Obeying The Ten Commandments

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We have what is often termed ‘’the legalistic law’’ and the ‘’moral law’’ given at Sania. The legalistic laws were written in Leviticus.

Then you have what is known as the moral law/ten commandments.

In Jesus day, the Pharisees could faultlessly obey the legalistic law, they cleaned the outside of the cup. Paul himself said of his life as a Pharisee, that he faultlessly obeyed the legalistic law (Phil3:6 NIV 1984 edition) Therefore, when Paul relentlessly insisted you could have no righteousness of obeying the law, it had to be because of the moral law. He wrote:

For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness 2Cor3:6-9

Paul is speaking in the above of the law engraved in stone, which was of course the Ten Commandments/the moral law. Paul explains himself in Romans:

So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh,a]">[a] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. Rom7:4-6

When Paul speaks of dying to the law, he means dying to righteousness of obeying the law(Christ is the end of the law unto righteousness for everyone who believeth Rom10:4) Then he makes a statement that when we were in our flesh, sinfull passions were aroused in us by the law. But by dying to what once bound us we are released from the law and serve in the new way of the Spirit, not the written code.

So which law is Paul referring to in the above? Well it cannot be the legalistic law, for he stated he could perfectly obey it, so sinfull passions were not aroused in him by that law. He now continues on, giving an explanation as to why he had to die to righteousness of obeying the law/works of the law. He had a lot of commandments to choose from, however:

What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived(or sin consciousness sprang to life), and I died.

10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. Verses7-11



So, before Saul the Pharisee made his commitment to God at the age of 13 I believe for a young Jewish lad, he felt alive, for there was no condemnation from the law, he would I am sure have been a normal healthy kid. But then as a young teenager he made that commitment, and knew he must obey the law. He must have been raised strictly for he became an ardent Pharisee. Before him stood the law, and the pinnacle of it was the ten commandments. These commands must be obeyed if he was to attain to Heaven and avoid hell.

So, knowing what those laws demanded he is faced with ‘’thou shalt not covet’’ Thou shalt not desire what is not yours to desire, though shalt not lust, thou shalt not have impure thoughts. Now imagine, what would happen if a young teenager was petrified of breaking the ten commandments as this could send them to hell? They must not lust, they must not have impure thoughts. Probably be afraid of them coming. It won’t be long before they are going to end up consummed by what they are afraid of, that’s human nature where the inside is concerned. I mean, if I said God would send you to hell if you thought of a pink rabbit, what is the first thought that would come into your head if you believed me? Thus, through the commandment thou shalt not covet all manner of concupiscence was aroused in Saul and he started to die/feel condemned. He wasn’t feeling so alive now. The commandment that was ordained to life, if he obeyed it, instead brought death/condemnation for he could not keep it. Hence verse 5 explained. Sinfull passions are aoused in us by the law if we live under it. NOT the legalistic law, for you could live under that and perfectly obey it, but rather the moral law

Of course, that only happened to Saul because he feared condemnation by breaking the law, so what happens if you remove the condemnation?

For sin/.breaking the law shall no longer be your master, for you are not under law/righteousness of obeying the law but under grace/righteousness of faith in Christ Romans 6:14
Hence Paul's core message was:
Die to righteousness of obeying the law and sin shall not be your master. And Paul could testify to the truth of it
Wow, a whole lot of words just to say obeying the law and commandments of God is not righteous. And so now them obeying His commandments are unrighteous. Great.

Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

This is a new one from the unrighteous sinners: not only are those keeping God's commandments self-righteous, but are unrighteous altogether.

And so now, the self-righteous doers of the law and word of God are even more unrighteous than the hearers only. Even greater.

When God says Mystery Babylon is Great, He knows exactly what He's talking about.
 

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And I repeat YOU DO NOT KNOW YOUR BIBLE, BUT JUST MAKE THINGS UP TO SUIT YOURSELF.
Folks have no idea what james or paul meant by JUDGING .
WE are supposed to judge the church . BUT NOT BY THE LETTER .
By the letter simply means if a witch is amongst us , WE PUT HER TO DEATH . NOW THAT WE DONT DO .
BUT WE DO JUDGE by doing this , EXPOSE IT AS EVIL and cast out said person till repentance is made .
AS WELL said or well wrote paul . I have JUDGED Already he who has comitted this sin . Notice paul next says
Not to STONE HIM TO DEATH , but rather the sentence of judgment is , GET THE LEAVEN OUT OF THE CHURCH .
I will DIE before i stop exposing sin within believers . DIE . WHY cause i hate folks , NO cause i LOVE THEM .
LEAVEN LEAVENS . EVIL BEGETS EVIL . WE MUST CORRECT ERROR IN THE CHURCH and DO IT FAST .
 
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Wow, a whole lot of words just to say obeying the law and commandments of God is not righteous. And so now them obeying His commandments are unrighteous. Great.
Those who are offended at not having a righteousness of obeying the law, normally misinterpret what has been written in a post concerning that subject, as you have done in the above. If you believe christians have righteousness of obeying the law, I suggest you ignore half the books of the NT in your bible, for then Paul must have preached a false message
 
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For sin/.breaking the law shall no longer be your master, for you are not under law/righteousness of obeying the law but under grace/righteousness of faith in Christ Romans 6:14
Hence Paul's core message was:
Die to righteousness of obeying the law and sin shall not be your master. And Paul could testify to the truth of it
Thanks for confirming for me the OSAS teaching that the law of God is now dead. And so keeping any law of God is the sin of dead works.

So now, faith alone means living by one's own faith only, with the law of God only written in one's own heart and mind.

And so, as along as we do anything by faith, it must be law of God.

Therefore, if I believe it, that's it, and there is no more object law of God nor Christ written in letters of a book that can judge an condemn me.

If I fornicate with faith, I'm good to go, because those letters about fleeing fornication are just ink on paper.

I love to fornicate by the law of God and faith within me, against which love there is no law on paper.

And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
 
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Wow, a whole lot of words just to say obeying the law and commandments of God is not righteous. And so now them obeying His commandments are unrighteous. Great.

Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

This is a new one from the unrighteous sinners: not only are those keeping God's commandments self-righteous, but are unrighteous altogether.

And so now, the self-righteous doers of the law and word of God are even more unrighteous than the hearers only. Even greater.

When God says Mystery Babylon is Great, He knows exactly what He's talking about.
You might want to tell this said person , that if obeying the law is not righteousness , THEY JUST ACCUSED JESUS .
DID HE NOT obey the law , DID HE NOT FULLFILL IT .
Obediance unto the law is righteousness , ITS JUST that WE CANNOT BE JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW .
FOR ALL have sinned . WE ALL have fallen short . THE ONLY WAY TO be MADE RIGHTEOUS , THUS IS IN JESUS CHRIST .
BUT obediance unto the law IS NOT UNRIGHTEOUNESS . OR CHRIST fullfilled Unrighteousness . MAKES ZERO SENSE .
Folks are duped big time in this generation . WE have many who think they can earn righteousness
and we have even much more that think we can live in sin and holler JESUS and walk in darkness of sin .
NO . JESUS came to not only save us but to transform us . THE TRUE LOVE that comes FROM GOD
does not honor DISOBEDIANCE , IT DOES NOT HONOR TRANSGRESSION . IT SETS US FREE From that .
IT gives us NEW HEARTS , TO WORSHIP GOD as HE ALWAYS DESIRED . BY OBEYING HIM through THE SPIRIT .
Transgression will never HONOR GOD . TO BELIEVE IN JESUS and TO FOLLOW HIM , THAT HONORS THE SON , IT HONORS THE FATHER
and IN JESUS we can do the things which PLEASE GOD . FOLKS need a serious wake up call these days . BIBLE . OPEN BIBLE .
READ and LOVE What is written . BE HEARERS AND DOERS OF ALL THINGS JESUS and apostels did teach .
AND YE WILL SOON SEE that , IT ACTUALLY WOULD FUFILL the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF SAID LAW .
ANY LOVE that comes FROM GOD , OBEYS GOD . FACT . IF YE LOVE ME YE WOULD BE HEARERS AND DOERS .
Obediance is TIED TO LOVE . FOR what we DO , what we obey , IS what we love , and WHOSE we are .
Whether of sin unto death or obedaince unto LIFE . This GEN is in dire and deadly danger .
 
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I made this up? “Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For by the standard you judge you will be judged, and the measure you use will be the measure you receive. Why do you see the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to see the beam of wood in your own?" Matthew 7:1-3

You are clearly living a strong delusion.

Yeah, you make things up, because YOU REFUSE to understand how the word "judge" is used throughout God's written Word! You instead apply it HOW YOU WANT.


NT:2919 krino (kree'-no); properly, to distinguish, i.e. decide (mentally or judicially); by implication, to try, condemn, punish:

KJV - avenge, conclude, condemn, damn, decree, determine, esteem, judge, go to (sue at the) law, ordain, call in question, sentence to, think.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006, 2010 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

Luke 6:37
37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

KJV

The CONTEXT above is about judging one to CONDEMNATION (i.e., to hell). Only Christ as that Authority to judge one to hell.


John 7:24
24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

KJV

The above John 7:24 verse usage of that same Greek word for "judge" means to 'discern'.

The John 3:17-18 verses use that same Greek word in the 'condemnation' sense, which means to condemn one to hell.

Acts 16:15
15 And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged (krino) me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us.

KJV

But the above uses that same Greek word in the discernment mental sense, and has nothing to do with judging one to be condemned to hell.

If you are so wise... in God's written Word, I shouldn't have to show you that above lesson in God's Word! And because you are haughty, and WON'T TAKE CORRECTION, you instead push false witness against me. May God rebuke you, and believe me, it is coming.
 

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Those who are offended at not having a righteousness of obeying the law, normally misinterpret what has been written in a post concerning that subject, as you have done in the above. If you believe christians have righteousness of obeying the law, I suggest you ignore half the books of the NT in your bible, for then Paul must have preached a false message
I don't need to waste time sifting through more OSAS pseudo-legal teaching, to know that not obeying the law and commandments of God as written is not righteous, but unrighteous.

Faith without works is dead and not justified nor righteous with God. Period.

One of your own gurus as gone so far as to say the resurrection is past, like the law of God is dead, in order to deny it.

All of you OSAS are simply correct in one thing: you're all just a bunch of unrighteous sinners equally as depraved as any other unrighteous sinner on earth.

They just don't write a whole page of childish legalese to justify it.
 

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Thanks for confirming for me the OSAS teaching that the law of God is now dead. And so keeping any law of God is the sin of dead works.

So now, faith alone means living by one's own faith only, with the law of God only written in one's own heart and mind.

And so, as along as we do anything by faith, it must be law of God.

Therefore, if I believe it, that's it, and there is no more object law of God nor Christ written in letters of a book that can judge an condemn me.

If I fornicate with faith, I'm good to go, because those letters about fleeing fornication are just ink on paper.

I love to fornicate by the law of God and faith within me, against which love there is no law on paper.

And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
I understand you are offended at having no righteousness of obeying the law, hence your wildly inaccurate rambling post. Your statement the law of God is now dead, either shows extreme ignorance, or, is the result of your offence at reading the believer is not under law.
As you yourself told me it is sin not to obey Christ's commands in the Gospels, and you yourself do not even try to obey them all, I wouldn't take such offence if I was you at no righteousness of obeying the law. The pass mark to be righteous under the law is 100% perfect obedience, no slip ups! Which, according to your statement concerning Christ's commands would condemn you
 

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I don't need to waste time sifting through more OSAS pseudo-legal teaching, to know that not obeying the law and commandments of God as written is not righteous, but unrighteous.

Faith without works is dead and not justified nor righteous with God. Period.

One of your own gurus as gone so far as to say the resurrection is past, like the law of God is dead, in order to deny it.

All of you OSAS are simply correct in one thing: you're all just a bunch of unrighteous sinners equally as depraved as any other unrighteous sinner on earth.

They just don't write a whole page of childish legalese to justify it.
I don't have a guru that says the law is dead. If the law is in your heart and mind how can it be dead? Can you not comprehend that? Righteousness of obeying the law is dead, not the law itself.
Well you are a sinner aren't you? Remember your words about Christ's commands!
 

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You might want to tell this said person , that if obeying the law is not righteousness , THEY JUST ACCUSED JESUS .
DID HE NOT obey the law , DID HE NOT FULLFILL IT .
Obediance unto the law is righteousness , ITS JUST that WE CANNOT BE JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW .
FOR ALL have sinned . WE ALL have fallen short . THE ONLY WAY TO be MADE RIGHTEOUS , THUS IS IN JESUS CHRIST .
BUT obediance unto the law IS NOT UNRIGHTEOUNESS . OR CHRIST fullfilled Unrighteousness . MAKES ZERO SENSE .
Folks are duped big time in this generation . WE have many who think they can earn righteousness
and we have even much more that think we can live in sin and holler JESUS and walk in darkness of sin .
NO . JESUS came to not only save us but to transform us . THE TRUE LOVE that comes FROM GOD
does not honor DISOBEDIANCE , IT DOES NOT HONOR TRANSGRESSION . IT SETS US FREE From that .
IT gives us NEW HEARTS , TO WORSHIP GOD as HE ALWAYS DESIRED . BY OBEYING HIM through THE SPIRIT .
Transgression will never HONOR GOD . TO BELIEVE IN JESUS and TO FOLLOW HIM , THAT HONORS THE SON , IT HONORS THE FATHER
and IN JESUS we can do the things which PLEASE GOD . FOLKS need a serious wake up call these days . BIBLE . OPEN BIBLE .
READ and LOVE What is written . BE HEARERS AND DOERS OF ALL THINGS JESUS and apostels did teach .
AND YE WILL SOON SEE that , IT ACTUALLY WOULD FUFILL the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF SAID LAW .
ANY LOVE that comes FROM GOD , OBEYS GOD . FACT . IF YE LOVE ME YE WOULD BE HEARERS AND DOERS .
Obediance is TIED TO LOVE . FOR what we DO , what we obey , IS what we love , and WHOSE we are .
Whether of sin unto death or obedaince unto LIFE . This GEN is in dire and deadly danger .
It's vey simple: doing the law without the faith of Jesus within the heart is still unrighteous and unjustified with God.

Having faith only without doing the law is one's own dead faith, not the fatih of Jesus.

Simple.

It just never ceases to amaze me how far the dead in sins and trespasses will try to justify themselves by their own 'heartfelt' faith alone.

I mean, now doing the law, commandments, and word of God is even worse than not doing it at all. Incredible.
 

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It's vey simple: doing the law without the faith of Jesus within the heart is still unrighteous and unjustified with God.

Having faith only without doing the law is one's own dead faith, not the fatih of Jesus.

Simple.

It just never ceases to amaze me how far the dead in sins and trespasses will try to justify themselves by their own 'heartfelt' faith alone.

I mean, now doing the law, commandments, and word of God is even worse than not doing it at all. Incredible.
This is the covenant I will make with them
after that time, says the Lord.
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.


17 Then he adds:

Their sins and lawless acts
I will remember no more.”

18 And where these have been forgiven, sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary.

Its quite plainly written, I'm sorry it offends you so much
 

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It's vey simple: doing the law without the faith of Jesus within the heart is still unrighteous and unjustified with God.

Having faith only without doing the law is one's own dead faith, not the fatih of Jesus.

Simple.

It just never ceases to amaze me how far the dead in sins and trespasses will try to justify themselves by their own 'heartfelt' faith alone.

I mean, now doing the law, commandments, and word of God is even worse than not doing it at all. Incredible.
The problem is that folks cannot see any more . IF ever they did see .
IF doing the law was wrong , WHY DID GOD PUNISH THE JEWS FOR NOT DOING IT . Exactly .
However if we think by DOING the law we are being made righteous , THINK AGAIN .
NOW if none of us had ever once sinned , THEN I COULD SAY that THAT ONE IS RIGHTEOUS BY DOING THE LAW .
The only problem is , ALL have sinned . ALL . SO if i then try and justify myself by the law
THE LAW Can only CONDEMN ME . Does that make sense . HOWEVER , IF i transgress the righteousness of the law ,
DO ya think i really follow CHRIST . NOPE . SEE the LOVE that comes from GOD LOVETH TRUTH , NOT TRANSGRESSION .
IN fact , the love that comes from GOD , WOULD FULLFILL the law . TRANSGRESSION does not fullfill IT TRANGRESSES .
THUS any love that embraces SIN . YOU GOT IT , IT AINT LOVE AT ALL . ANY LOVE that transgresses the law ,
IT AINT LOVE AT ALL . FOLKS dont even know what i speak of . TOO many are under grace as a license to sin
And others are under trying to earn salvation . BOTH ARE AS DEADLY AS THE OTHER ONE .
 

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I don't have a guru that says the law is dead. If the law is in your heart and mind how can it be dead? Can you not comprehend that? Righteousness of obeying the law is dead, not the law itself.
Well you are a sinner aren't you? Remember your words about Christ's commands!
You are that guru. You are saying the law written on stone or paper is dead. Of Moses yes, of God and Christ no.

The law of the book of the OT is dead, and the law of the book of the NT lives on. There you have been corrected, but I know it will do no good for such as you. No man can be corrected that actually suggests keeping the law, word, and commandments of God is unrighteous.

For you OSAS, now the only law is written in your own heart and mind, and so there is no objective law of God to counter whatever you want to believe to do: Paul was not commending them that are a law unto themselves in Romans 2. He was rather rebuking them that actually had it written in front of their eyes, and yet still were not doing it: you.

I was just waiting for some OSAS guru to confirm what I already believed, by all the stupid things you have been saying: the law of God written on paper is now dead, which now includes the law of Christ written by the apostles on paper, as well as the law of Christ written by Moses on stone.

Your problem, like the others, is you don't like your teaching to be stripped of all your flowery rubbish, and say it as it is.

For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

You people are so blind, that you can't even see the complete ignorance of saying that keeping the law and commandants of God is unrighteous, just because it is actually written on paper in Scripture. The only law that exist now is the one between your ears, and you say what that law is by doing anything with 'faith'.

You think you have uncovered the deep things of God about His law, when all you have down is nose dived into the depths of Satan's hatred of God's law.

But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

I'll pick through your 'deep' understanding of law to expose it for what it is in due time, but in the meantime I'm having enough fun with just your stupid title.

Well you are a sinner aren't you? Remember your words about Christ's commands!

And so it always comes down to the same thing, as I've said before. It's all about sinners trying to justify themselves by their own faith. And now, those who do the law and word and commandments of God are the only ones not righteous justified by Christ.

Yes, you are not just an average unrighteous sinner, but you are also a false teacher of staying one 'by grace'. For that, you will pay the price, even as it is written in the law of the book of Christ:

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
 

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Thanks for confirming for me the OSAS teaching that the law of God is now dead. And so keeping any law of God is the sin of dead works.

So now, faith alone means living by one's own faith only, with the law of God only written in one's own heart and mind.

And so, as along as we do anything by faith, it must be law of God.

Therefore, if I believe it, that's it, and there is no more object law of God nor Christ written in letters of a book that can judge an condemn me.

If I fornicate with faith, I'm good to go, because those letters about fleeing fornication are just ink on paper.

I love to fornicate by the law of God and faith within me, against which love there is no law on paper.

And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Are you okay? Your post is both confused and disturbed.

The closest you came to making any sense is this: So now, faith alone means living by one's own faith only, with the law of God only written in one's own heart and mind.

Jesus gave us the Holy Spirit, who He said would guide us into all truth. If one is a Christian, we are dead to the OT law and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Romans 7:4, "So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you could be joined to another, to the one who was raised from the dead, to bear fruit to God."

If you are under the law then you are not a Christian.
 

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This is the covenant I will make with them
after that time, says the Lord.
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.


17 Then he adds:

Their sins and lawless acts
I will remember no more.”

18 And where these have been forgiven, sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary.

Its quite plainly written, I'm sorry it offends you so much

I didn't know you were a Jew! Since you are going by the Old Testament, why not accept Jesus as your Savior?
 

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Are you okay? Your post is both confused and disturbed.

The closest you came to making any sense is this: So now, faith alone means living by one's own faith only, with the law of God only written in one's own heart and mind.

Jesus gave us the Holy Spirit, who He said would guide us into all truth. If one is a Christian, we are dead to the OT law and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Romans 7:4, "So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you could be joined to another, to the one who was raised from the dead, to bear fruit to God."

If you are under the law then you are not a Christian.
So the question now is , what do we THINK being UNDER THE LAW MEANS .
A hint , if ya think you can be made righteous by the law , if ye can earn righteousness by the law , THEN YA UNDER THE LAW .
But if you think you can willfully trangress it and that iN CHRIST we are free to do so , YOU are as lost as those who think they can earn it .
If doing the law was evil , WHY DID GOD PUNISH and DESTROY HIS OWN PEOPLE for NOT KEEPING IT .
NO , its we must have FAITH , we seek righteousnes by faith . But if we are CHRISTS , we love TRUTH , not evil .WE love righteousones
NOT transgression . I used to love sin , CHRIST DID NOT COME SO I COULD CONTINUE TO DO SO and TO LOVE IT
HE came to save me , and THAT from my own self , my own flesh . HE came to create a PEOPLE WHO WOULD HONOR GOD .
And SIN , well that dont honor GOD now does it .
 
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I was just waiting for some OSAS guru to confirm what I already believed, by all the stupid things you have been saying: the law of God written on paper is now dead, which now includes the law of Christ written by the apostles on paper, as well as the law of Christ written by Moses on stone.

Yple.

You people are so blind, that you can't even see the complete ignorance of saying that keeping the law and commandants of God is unrighteous, just because it is actually written on paper in Scripture. The only law that exist now is the one between your ears, and you say what that law is by doing anything with 'faith'.

And so it always comes down to the same thing, as I've said before. It's all about sinners trying to justify themselves by their own faith. And now, those who do the law and word and commandments of God are the only ones not righteous justified by Christ.





Lets just take two things from your extremely immature post. Can you quote where I have ever stated keeping the law is unrighteous? Of course you cant. I have to say, you do very casually break the ten commandments don't you? I find its always the same with those who want a righteousness of obeying the law. They so casually break it without any remorse at all it seems. You are not righteous by obeying the law, but how would that make you unrighteous when it is followed? But carry on casually breaking thew commandments if you must.
There is no law now engraved in stone or on parchments for the believer, no, it is in their hearts and minds instead, much better place to be.
I have to say, I have seen so many stress obeying commandments, who like you take offence at no righteousness of obeying the law, and like you I am afraid who do not practice what they preach. Phariseeism is as alive now as it was 2000 years ago
 
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amigo de christo

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I didn't know you were a Jew! Since you are going by the Old Testament, why not accept Jesus as your Savior?
Let me give you an example of one who is NOT a christain .
He who does as i once did . I could holler JESUS , yet embraced sin .
THUS here is a simple example . IF i came hollering JESUS yet was gay and supported my sin , I DONT KNOW HIM . THAT IS A FACT .
Same as if i were still robbing banks and etc . THE OLD MAN GOTTA DIE . WE NO LONGER SUPPORT SIN .
CAN YOU SAY THE SAME . JUST PONDER ON THAT FOR A BIT .
Or i have seen women that once had abortions . WHICH IS EVIL . YET after coming to CHRIST , THEY DONT KEEP SUPPORTING IT .
THEY NOW are against it . can YOU say the same . exactly . WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE that CHRIST LIVES IN US .
WELL ITS IN OUR FRUITS MY FRIEND .
 
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As you yourself told me it is sin not to obey Christ's commands in the Gospels, and you yourself do not even try to obey them all, I wouldn't take such offence if I was you at no righteousness of obeying the law. The pass mark to be righteous under the law is 100% perfect obedience, no slip ups! Which, according to your statement concerning Christ's commands would condemn you
You have no clue what I say, because you have no clue what Scripture says, since all I say is by Scripture, not by my own mind.

You preach your own mind in place of Scripture. I'm used to that from such as yourself. But to then try and make the righteous unrighteous, by doing the law and word of God is too stupid to try and correct.

Hint: unrighteously sinning against God and transgressing His law 'slip up'. It is a work of the devil.

You really do need to grow up and stop talking like a foolish child.

And yes, 100% obedience to God with a pure heart is not evil, nor unrighteous, nor impossible:

Blessed are they that keep judgment, and he that doeth righteousness at all times.

I have ministered to you before the simple and easy way of Christ to do so: Spiritual purity within the heart and mind first.

You have rejected it, because you love your sinning to much to repent.

Now you go on to condemn the pure in heart and righteous of life in Christ Jesus.

You are beyond correction, and so I don't even try, but rather just mock your offensive stupidly to anyone of sound mind.