No Salvation of God Without Fellowship with God

[robert derrick]

Sinners that preach their sins only 'limit' their fellowship with God, while yet being saved by God, think that God is a respecter of persons.

They are saying that His salvation is not for reconciliation to fellowship with Him as sons, but salvation is only for no more judgeing sinners, that behave not as His sons.

There is no salvation of God without fellowship with God, and there is no fellowship with God while still walking in darkness.

This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Those continuing in sins and trespasses on earth are still walking in darkness of the world, and do not have fellowship with God in the Light.

Them not walking in the Light of Christ on earth, are therefore not cleansed of their unrighteous sins.

Those not cleansed by the blood of Jesus are not saved.

And so, those not fellowshipping with God and walking with Him in the true Light, where there is no darkness of unrighteousness at all, are not being saved at all.

 

[robert derrick]

Fellowship with God is friendship with God.

Only self-justifying sinners would claim salvation requires no fellowship and friendship with God.

OSAS is for sinners at enmity with God, declaring themselves unconditionally saved, without even the condition of being a friend of God.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Sinners that preach their sins only 'limit' their fellowship with God, while yet being saved by God, think that God is a respecter of persons.

They are saying that His salvation is not for reconciliation to fellowship with Him as sons, but salvation is only for no more judgeing sinners, that behave not as His sons.

There is no salvation of God without fellowship with God, and there is no fellowship with God while still walking in darkness.

This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Those continuing in sins and trespasses on earth are still walking in darkness of the world, and do not have fellowship with God in the Light.

Them not walking in the Light of Christ on earth, are therefore not cleansed of their unrighteous sins.

Those not cleansed by the blood of Jesus are not saved.

And so, those not fellowshipping with God and walking with Him in the true Light, where there is no darkness of unrighteousness at all, are not being saved at all.

I agree Rob, God is going to save only those who actively seek to draw close to Him, based on their capabilities of course, those who obey Him and seek His friendship.

 

[robert derrick]

I agree Rob, God is going to save only those who actively seek to draw close to Him, based on their capabilities of course, those who obey Him and seek His friendship.

Based on His power of course, not the power of our own will:

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Until we rid ourselves of reading Scripture with a carnal mind, we will never think with the mind of Christ and be a doer of His word, rather than a doer of our own will power.

 

[robert derrick]

Once Christian sinners beleive they can be saved without being doers of His word, they must also go further down the rabbit hole and say they can be saved without having His fellowship.

They are more than willing to do away with righteousness and His fellowship in the light, in order to go on sinning and trespasses, and still think they are being saved by their own dead faith alone.

Or rather they go down the hole of the serpent.

But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Based on His power of course, not the power of our own will:

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Until we rid ourselves of reading Scripture with a carnal mind, we will never think with the mind of Christ and be a doer of His word, rather than a doer of our own will power.

Every single individual that was saved sir, was saved through obedience. Obedience is the key, of course capabilities come into play as well. When the final judgment comes, all will be capable, and only those who obey will receive everlasting life.

 

[robert derrick]

Fellowship with God is friendship of God: God is not saving His enemies.

Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?