On the internet I found a solution to the Israel/Palestine conflict

[Reggie Belafonte]

You are so busy hating the Jews that you missed the whole picture....

Not hared at all in fact, I am a Jew ! and know many Jews. I am not ignorant as to who the Jews truly are, like the Goyim are.
What you are doing is making out that the true Jews are something other than what they truly are.
How can they truly be Israel when they reject Jesus Christ ? now tell me that !
Jesus Christ is the King of Israel ! or do you reject that fact ?

Don't mistake the true Jews for the Talmud or so called Zionist you know.
You should do some deep study into such, then you may find out that the true Jews are under attack as they always have been.

Yes I am proud to be a Christian of Jewish Hebrew decent and I know who follow Holy Moses and Jesus Christ in fact and who do not.
I have had a gut full of people claiming to be Jewish that are not at all. a true Jew follows Holy Moses and if they do not do that, they are nothing worth bothering about.

 

[mjrhealth]

Not hared at all in fact, I am a Jew ! and know many Jews. I am not ignorant as to who the Jews truly are like the Goyim are.

Than you should by all manor know that the Jews are not yet saved, still happening.

 

[Windmillcharge]

Than you understand what Israel is, there is a war coming and Israel is going to be right in the middle of it, and this must all come to pass, for our sakes. They have suffered much for our salvation.

Israel has always been those Jews wqho have followed God whole heartedly, just because someone is born to the ethnic group called Jews and ritualy follows a religeon does not make them part of Israel.
Jesus is the fulfillment of the OT ritual and legal laws. Salvation is only through faith in him, so an Israelite is in modern talk a messianic jew. That many Jews will turn to faith in Jesus I sincerly hope will happen.
The state of Israel is not the same as the biblical kingdom of Israel. I have several times ponted out that Israel is a secular state. Nowhere in the bible is secularism aproved of by God.

As you say war is coming, whether that is a physical war or a continuation of the spiritual war that is ongoing, depends on how one understand the second coming.

There is only one certainty about the second coming.

"Jesus is coming again"

Every thing else is conjecture based on a particular theory and is very likely to be wrong.

Do I think Israel is important?
Spiritual it has no importance at all.
Politically as an example of a relatively just and fair state that seeks to look after its inhabitants, it is unique in that region.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The state of Israel is a state of mind/heart; the actual land was just a transitional object for a tribal people - God took it away like a parent takes away a teddy bear after it is no longer needed.

Wrong aspen. Israel is the Servants or God.
Jesus came for all the whole World to be saved under God, to be served by Israel.

There is no State of Israel in fact, Israel is as I said servants or God, not a State at all, but Servants of God in fact and if they are not that, they are not Israel at all.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Than you should by all manor know that the Jews are not yet saved, still happening.

Ok 2000 years ago Jesus was a Jew ? and all were saved who believed in him, or are you claiming that Peter was not saved ? let alone all the rest that followed him ? all the true Jews were Saved. but the false Jews were lost,

 

[mjrhealth]

Israel has always been those Jews wqho have followed God whole heartedly, just because someone is born to the ethnic group called Jews and ritualy follows a religeon does not make them part of Israel.
Jesus is the fulfillment of the OT ritual and legal laws. Salvation is only through faith in him, so an Israelite is in modern talk a messianic jew. That many Jews will turn to faith in Jesus I sincerly hope will happen.
The state of Israel is not the same as the biblical kingdom of Israel. I have several times ponted out that Israel is a secular state. Nowhere in the bible is secularism aproved of by God.

As you say war is coming, whether that is a physical war or a continuation of the spiritual war that is ongoing, depends on how one understand the second coming.

There is only one certainty about the second coming.

"Jesus is coming again"

Every thing else is conjecture based on a particular theory and is very likely to be wrong.

Do I think Israel is important?
Spiritual it has no importance at all.
Politically as an example of a relatively just and fair state that seeks to look after its inhabitants, it is unique in that region.

Yes because God made them a promise and God keeps His promises no matter what men think. Israel is and always will be God chosen people, all 12 tribes, we where supposed to provoke them to Jealousy but it seems christians have become Jealous of them...

 

[mjrhealth]

Ok 2000 years ago Jesus was a Jew ? and all were saved who believed in him, or are you claiming that Peter was not saved ? let alone all the rest that followed him ? all the true Jews were Saved. but the false Jews were lost,

Now you are getting silly, never said they where not if you bothered to read my posts, 12 men dont make up Israel

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Now you are getting silly, never said they where not if you bothered to read my posts, 12 men dont make up Israel

Sure I see that you are brainwashed.

Only tribes ? they are of Israel you know, that does not make everyone within any of the tribes "a Israel", as to Jacob. Jacob was given the Name Israel for a reason you know and just because one is within a tribe does not make them a true Israelite in fact and the Bible points this out many a time. Jesus says such ! but you don't get it do you because you just like most think, that it's a tribe and some idiots think it's a race thing, fact is it's a spiritual comprehension and if one does not cut the grade they are not truly Israel (servants of God) now are they.
Not all are servants of God within the tribes of Israel.
Jacob was never Israel when he was born was he, no he got given the Name, not to mention by who an Angel.

Look Jesus says of Nathaniel, that he is a true Israelite. and points out the facts as to why he is saying that and anyone who comes to understand the gravity of what is being said as to such, will know that Nathaniel is servant of God, not to mention that he is the first person who truly knows who Jesus is directly ! now that is one of the greatest points of the Bible that every Christian should know straight up, but sadly they don't because all of the churches try to hid it, because if they did point such out, that's when the people could wake up !! and put it together. Boy the 1st dude to know who Jesus and he was without any doubt at all ? and most do not know that's a fact. why ?
Nathaniel is the greatest Servant of God in the Bible, he is the greatest Israelite, bingo ! he knew who Jesus was directly, go study the story, it will blow a true Christian away, it's fantastic !

Look the Bible points out all the bad Jews, it's full of this and you do not have to even go past studying the OT to see that, hey how about one who sold out Jesus ? do you remember who he was, not to mention who they were who sold out there brother that their dad loved more than all of them and he gave him something that the brothers despised him for, so yes not all of Israel are truly Israel. remember that only true Israel are the only servants of God. the rest don't cut the grade and such are only a people of God( Judah ) that do not serve God but are only servants of the servants of God, like water baptised Christians are and some are not even that but are of Satan, do you want me to point one such out, as we see in the Golden Calf mob for one, now ever a true Christian should understand the gravity of such a story, but it looks as tho most do not understand the facts of this matter as well.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Yes because God made them a promise and God keeps His promises no matter what men think. Israel is and always will be God chosen people, all 12 tribes, we where supposed to provoke them to Jealousy but it seems christians have become Jealous of them...

Nonsense True born again Christians are not jealous of anyone, they are Israel servants of God and they know who Jesus Christ is, because they do follow him and serve only him the King of Israel. now I have to ask why do you and all the new age turn away from Jesus Christ the King of Israel ? and want to follow Idols and so called Jews who are lost as to Jesus Christ as you all must be in fact.
I am here pointing to Jesus Christ, all can be saved if they only come to him and that's he way it has been for 2000 years, but one who peddles this new age looking for Jesus in the 2ed coming are in fact rejecting Jesus Christ has ever come, they must be !

Hey how's this ? Jesus is coming at the 2ed coming ? is he ! well I thought he was here now and also 2000 years before, not to mention that he said I will be with you always to the end of time.
Has he vanished from 2000 years ago and then will turn up again. do we have the 1st testament and the 2ed testament and is their going to be a 3rd testament ? as I heard my satanic Socialist State Premier say, who went to a RCC school mind, mentioning the 1st Testament and the 2ed ? what a moron ! and she said that in a award she received at her old school and here it was the majority of Roman Catholics that such just went over their heads, such direct blasphemy ! beyond belief. no one could be so stupid to say such a thing.

 

[mjrhealth]

Man you are just getting so angry, who has turned away from Christ,just because we disagree with you does not make us unbelievers. The fact that you get so angry is clear evidence you miss the mark.... I am a Christian because I know Christ by faith.. end of story.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Man you are just getting so angry, who has turned away from Christ,just because we disagree with you does not make us unbelievers. The fact that you get so angry is clear evidence you miss the mark.... I am a Christian because I know Christ by faith.. end of story.

Why do you claim I am angry ?

Faith needs substance you know or it can be just blind faith, much like the Libertines run about with, say without any regard, sadly like most Christians are nowadays and rejecting the Bibles truths. for just fantasy's.

Oh you of little faith the Bible points out ? and then there is the Faith that can move mountains you know.

 

[mjrhealth]

Why do you claim I am angry ?

Faith needs substance you know or it can be just blind faith, much like the Libertines run about with, say without any regard, sadly like most Christians are nowadays and rejecting the Bibles truths. for just fantasy's.

Oh you of little faith the Bible points out ? and then there is the Faith that can move mountains you know.

Yes like forgiving people who hurt you, faith it what God gave us unto salvation, to them who believe.

 

[Windmillcharge]

Yes because God made them a promise

Which as you forget has conditions attached, things like keeping the law by everyone, not just by a minority.

 

[mjrhealth]

Which as you forget has conditions attached, things like keeping the law by everyone, not just by a minority.

Yes really odd condition, that God would give men something to do that He full well knew, no man could do, and still dont.

Joh_7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?

funny isnt it, the only one who ever impressed Christ was a Roman centurion,

Mat 8:10 When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.\

Oh thats right, the law is not of faith..

Rom_9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

 

[Windmillcharge]

Yes really odd condition, that God would give men something to do that He full well knew, no man could do, and still dont.

It makes one think when objections commonly made by atheists are made by Christians.

Are the atheists right after all. But then second thoughts kick in.

God is just, he is not arbitary, he has gracy and mercy for those who believe in Jesus.
All who believe in Jesus as Saviour and Lord will be saved. That is the gospel.

The state od Israel, whether it is a fulfilment of prophercy or not is irrelevent.
Our task is to live for Jesus, if supporting Israel enables you to do that, go for it.

 

[mjrhealth]

It makes one think when objections commonly made by atheists are made by Christians.

Are the atheists right after all. But then second thoughts kick in.

God is just, he is not arbitary, he has gracy and mercy for those who believe in Jesus.
All who believe in Jesus as Saviour and Lord will be saved. That is the gospel.

The state od Israel, whether it is a fulfilment of prophercy or not is irrelevent.
Our task is to live for Jesus, if supporting Israel enables you to do that, go for it.

If God didnt keep His promise to Israel, why would He bother keeping His promise to the gentiles? since we never really had a covenant with Him.. as for atheists, cant blame them, christians really dont show God to be any better than any other god, we certainly are not good ambassadors are we....??

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

If God didnt keep His promise to Israel, why would He bother keeping His promise to the gentiles? since we never really had a covenant with Him.. as for atheists, cant blame them, christians really dont show God to be any better than any other god, we certainly are not good ambassadors are we....??

God gave his promise to Israel, Christianity is Israel in fact !
What is it that you do not understand about Jesus Christ being the King of Israel ?
Jesus Christ is the King of Israel ? so who do you think serves Jesus ? one who rejects him is what you are claiming in fact ! are you not ?

Why are you attacking the Jewish people who came to Jesus 2000 years ago for, they knew who Jesus was in fact, so why do you insist in your game play in rejecting all that ?
you and your type are with the Jews because you must be just as lost as they are, not knowing who Jesus Christ truly is.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

If God didnt keep His promise to Israel, why would He bother keeping His promise to the gentiles? since we never really had a covenant with Him.. as for atheists, cant blame them, christians really dont show God to be any better than any other god, we certainly are not good ambassadors are we....??

The Devil is in the detail bro and you spite Jesus Christ, by we ? you mean you and others like so.

Can't blame atheist ? well you can't support them ether at all, because they are just as lost as the so called morons who claim to be Christians, who are only truly just worldly dolts as they are. they all are not born again, so they are not worthy of being Christ Jesus People and as a matter of fact Israel truly is bound to Jesus Christ because he is their King.
Not all who say they are Christian are in fact truly such, as Jesus Christ pointed this fact out.
Fact is that you must be born again to truly know Jesus Christ.

 

[mjrhealth]

God gave his promise to Israel, Christianity is Israel in fact !
What is it that you do not understand about Jesus Christ being the King of Israel ?
Jesus Christ is the King of Israel ? so who do you think serves Jesus ? one who rejects him is what you are claiming in fact ! are you not ?

Why are you attacking the Jewish people who came to Jesus 2000 years ago for, they knew who Jesus was in fact, so why do you insist in your game play in rejecting all that ?
you and your type are with the Jews because you must be just as lost as they are, not knowing who Jesus Christ truly is.

MAn your attitude says much about you, no Israel do not serve Christ, not yet anyway, and they will be saved in God time.

 

[mjrhealth]

The Devil is in the detail bro and you spite Jesus Christ, by we ? you mean you and others like so.

Can't blame atheist ? well you can't support them ether at all, because they are just as lost as the so called morons who claim to be Christians, who are only truly just worldly dolts as they are. they all are not born again, so they are not worthy of being Christ Jesus People and as a matter of fact Israel truly is bound to Jesus Christ because he is their King.
Not all who say they are Christian are in fact truly such, as Jesus Christ pointed this fact out.
Fact is that you must be born again to truly know Jesus Christ.

No kidding, as if we dont know that, and no Israel is not Bound to Christ untill they let Him be there King.

The yrejecyed Him way back here

1Sa 8:4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,
1Sa 8:5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.
1Sa 8:6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.
1Sa 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.