Once Saved....always Saved - Results of Questionnaire.

[GodsGrace]

This is moral relativism.

A lie doesn't become an "UN-lie" just because a person believes it to be true.
A lie is ALWAYS a lie - and the truth is ALWAYS the truth.

I agree that we are not to bear false witness because that is calumny.

Wow. You could argue anything!
Just because a person believes something does not make it true.....correct.
However, it also does not make that person a liar if he believes it to be true.

 

[bbyrd009]

You are more concerned about what you can't find in the Bible then what you can find.

imo this is justified in the light of so many who seem so assured of a Promised Heaven that they cannot quite quote

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

i stand by my statement. you have turned confess into profess there, 2 diff subjects

Please clarify

 

[BreadOfLife]

Wow. You could argue anything!
Just because a person believes something does not make it true.....correct.
However, it also does not make that person a liar if he believes it to be true.

Well, I didn't say that they were a "liar". I said that the lie remains a lie.
We're probably both arguing the same point . . .

 

[GodsGrace]

Well, I didn't say that they were a "liar". I said that the lie remains a lie.
We're probably both arguing the same point . . .

OK
(When a person lies, he is Purposefully telling an untruth. I know you know this.)

 

[BreadOfLife]

OK
(When a person lies, he is Purposefully telling an untruth. I know you know this.)

Yes.

In Taken's case, when I call him "dishonest" - it's because he has been shown the truth and continues to lie about it

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Yes.

In Taken's case, when I call him "dishonest" - it's because he has been shown the truth and continues to lie about it

Hey Breadman, your mother's calling you.

 

[Taken]

That's easy because you say it in almost every one of your rants.

In post #1964, YOU said:
"I sin no more..."

A "sinner" by definition a person who sins.
sin·ner
ˈsinər/
noun
1. a person who transgresses against divine law by committing an immoral act or acts.

Since YOU say that you don't sin - you are claiming that you are NOT a sinner.
There - that was EASY . . .

Sure it was easy....The wrong answer IS easy.
LOL...

You didn't quote me making that claim....

So without all your skirting around...

QUOTE ME making that claim...

"YOU CAN'T" !!!

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes.

In Taken's case, when I call him "dishonest" - it's because he has been shown the truth and continues to lie about it

Not everyone here can accept the truth.

 

[Taken]

Yes.

In Taken's case, when I call him "dishonest" - it's because he has been shown the truth and continues to lie about it

LOL - In BLO's case, he makes FALSE claims,
Against an other, then attempts to PROVE his FALSE claims, with HIS OWN WORDS!

LOL... absurd!

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

LOL - In BLO's case, he makes FALSE claims,
Against an other, then attempts to PROVE his FALSE claims, with HIS OWN WORDS!

LOL... absurd!

Yes, his absurdity is rampant

 

[Taken]

Not everyone here can accept the truth.

Nor can everyone explain their own beliefs.

I find NOTHING whatsoever that teaches the Spirit of the Lord dwells in sin, yet men claim to have the Spirit of the Lord IN THEM, while they sin.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

Sure it was easy....The wrong answer IS easy.
LOL...
You didn't quote me making that claim....
So without all your skirting around...
QUOTE ME making that claim...
"YOU CAN'T" !!!

I already did, Einstein . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

LOL - In BLO's case, he makes FALSE claims,
Against an other, then attempts to PROVE his FALSE claims, with HIS OWN WORDS!

LOL... absurd!

This is the beauty of an online forum.
ALL of your rants and asinine claims are captured for everybody to see . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Hey Breadman, your mother's calling you.

???
What color is the sky in your world, Rollo?
How many voices are in your mind as you sit alone in the dark tapping away?

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

???
What color is the sky in your world, Rollo?
How many voices are in your mind as you sit alone in the dark tapping away?

I posted 6 times proving you wrong and you never answered them.
I've never done that to you.

 

[Taken]

Wow. You could argue anything!
Just because a person believes something does not make it true.....correct.
However, it also does not make that person a liar if he believes it to be true.

LOL, haven't you been reading along?
Anyone who does not agree with the self-proclaimed Catholic defender, is a untruthful, wrong and a liar!

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Breadman would never say that to me.
We're buddies.
But he does owe me answers, answers that he is afraid to give because he lives in fear.

 

[Taken]

This is the beauty of an online forum.
ALL of your rants and asinine claims are captured for everybody to see . . .

LOL Too bad you find Scriptural claims asinine.....Catholic teaching?

 

[GodsGrace]

Nor can everyone explain their own beliefs.

I find NOTHING whatsoever that teaches the Spirit of the Lord dwells in sin, yet men claim to have the Spirit of the Lord IN THEM, while they sin.

God Bless,
Taken

I didn't catch this. Sorry.
In the OT the Holy Spirit fell upon upon persons.
In the NT the Holy Spirit indwells us because we are in Christ --- He dwells in our spirit. Our spirit also affects our soul where the sin nature resides and this is how the Holy Spirit affects us. He does not possess us, but lives with us.
IF we do live a life of sin, the Holy Spirit will depart. This is when we're in danger of losing our salvation. You're right, the Holy Spirit cannot LIVE WITH SIN.
But, as I've stated, this is different from committing a sin. We are exhorted throughout scripture to obey and live a life pleasing to God. We are exhorted this way by the same persons, especially Paul, who tell us how the Holy Spirit abides in us, so apparently it's true that the Holy Spirit does not force us to obey, but only helps us.

If you want to continue with this, it'll have to be tomorrow.
It's 11 pm here.