Once Saved....always Saved - Results of Questionnaire.

[Rollo Tamasi]

I didn't catch this. Sorry.
In the OT the Holy Spirit fell upon upon persons.
In the NT the Holy Spirit indwells us because we are in Christ --- He dwells in our spirit. Our spirit also affects our soul where the sin nature resides and this is how the Holy Spirit affects us. He does not possess us, but lives with us.
IF we do live a life of sin, the Holy Spirit will depart. This is when we're in danger of losing our salvation. You're right, the Holy Spirit cannot LIVE WITH SIN.
But, as I've stated, this is different from committing a sin. We are exhorted throughout scripture to obey and live a life pleasing to God. We are exhorted this way by the same persons, especially Paul, who tell us how the Holy Spirit abides in us, so apparently it's true that the Holy Spirit does not force us to obey, but only helps us.

If you want to continue with this, it'll have to be tomorrow.
It's 11 pm here.

Right, and you owe me the next 5 hours

 

[GodsGrace]

Right, and you owe me the next 5 hours

What fer?

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I'll send you my references

 

[GodsGrace]

I'll send you my references

Good Night Rollo Tamasi!

 

[Taken]

I already did, Einstein . . .

Flat out false!

QUOTE me saying what YOU CLAIM I said.

You can't.

 

[Taken]

I didn't catch this. Sorry.
In the OT the Holy Spirit fell upon upon persons.
In the NT the Holy Spirit indwells us because we are in Christ --- He dwells in our spirit. Our spirit also affects our soul where the sin nature resides and this is how the Holy Spirit affects us. He does not possess us, but lives with us.
IF we do live a life of sin, the Holy Spirit will depart. This is when we're in danger of losing our salvation. You're right, the Holy Spirit cannot LIVE WITH SIN.
But, as I've stated, this is different from committing a sin. We are exhorted throughout scripture to obey and live a life pleasing to God. We are exhorted this way by the same persons, especially Paul, who tell us how the Holy Spirit abides in us, so apparently it's true that the Holy Spirit does not force us to obey, but only helps us.

If you want to continue with this, it'll have to be tomorrow.
It's 11 pm here.

Ok. Good Night.
God Bless,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

I posted 6 times proving you wrong and you never answered them.
I've never done that to you.

Can you point me to one of those posts?
I never saw them.

 

[BreadOfLife]

LOL Too bad you find Scriptural claims asinine.....Catholic teaching?

I never said Scripture was asinine. I said that your claims were.
BIG difference, Einstein . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Flat out false!
QUOTE me saying what YOU CLAIM I said.
You can't.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt . . .

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Let's face it Breadman, you stand alone with your own private interpretation of romanism

 

[aspen]

This must be the smartest board on the internet.......so many Einsteins!

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

This must be the smartest board on the internet.......so many Einsteins!

Did he anoint you as einstein too
That's just about all of us.

 

[GodsGrace]

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt . . .

LOL

 

[Taken]

I never said Scripture was asinine. I said that your claims were..

Oh, so NOW you believe...Scripture?

Now you believe....

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN,
For his seed remaineth in him:
And HE CAN NOT SIN,
BECAUSE he is born of God.

? Huh, do you now believe Scripture?

 

[GodsGrace]

Oh, so NOW you believe...Scripture?

Now you believe....

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN,
For his seed remaineth in him:
And HE CAN NOT SIN,
BECAUSE he is born of God.

? Huh, do you now believe Scripture?

You LOVE 1 John 3:9...

 

[aspen]

LOL

Denial is a pretty famous river, however

 

[aspen]

Did he anoint you as einstein too
That's just about all of us.

I think we are all just imagining it......BOL NEVER name calls....ha

 

[GodsGrace]

Denial is a pretty famous river, however

It runs the wrong way...up, instead of down.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Oh, so NOW you believe...Scripture?

Now you believe....

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN,
For his seed remaineth in him:
And HE CAN NOT SIN,
BECAUSE he is born of God.

? Huh, do you now believe Scripture?

It's about time I set you straight on this.
Get rid of the doths and remainths and all those other useless words from the KJV
Start reading English as people understand it.
9"No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him: he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God."

No where does this say we will never sin.
It says we will not continue to sin, to make it a habit.
If we sin, we become aware of it and we repent of it.
Aside from that, we do not sin because we have been born of God, and God's seed remains in us.

Can you understand that?

 

[Dcopymope]

It's about time I set you straight on this.
Get rid of the doths and remainths and all those other useless words from the KJV
Start reading English as people understand it.
9"No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him: he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God."

No where does this say we will never sin.
It says we will not continue to sin, to make it a habit.
If we sin, we become aware of it and we repent of it.
Aside from that, we do not sin because we have been born of God, and God's seed remains in us.

Can you understand that?

Well this kind of explains that other scripture people love to quote.

(1 John 1:8-10) "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. {9} If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. {10} If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."