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BreadOfLife

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Oh, so NOW you believe...Scripture?
Now you believe....

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN,
For his seed remaineth in him:
And HE CAN NOT SIN,
BECAUSE he is born of God.

? Huh, do you now believe Scripture?
Yup - I DO believe when Scripture says that Christians sin . . .
James 5:16
Therefore CONFESS YOUR SINS to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed.

1 John 1:8
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is NOT in us.


I also believe Paul when he said that HE sinned - and called himself a "sinner" . . .
1 Tim. 1:5
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners--of whom I am the worst.


I don't believe YOU - because you are in direct conflict with Scripture, my arrogant friend . . .
 

GodsGrace

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Actually I am pretty smitten with all of Scripture.

But yes, the Scriptures that DO apply to me, I take a fancy to.

God Bless,
Taken
Maybe we could discuss why they don't all apply to you?
But not now.
Good night for real!
 

Taken

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It's about time I set you straight on this.
Get rid of the doths and remainths and all those other useless words from the KJV
Start reading English as people understand it.
9"No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him: he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God."

No where does this say we will never sin.

Correct. It does not say YOUR words.
It says CAN NOT SIN.

And then it tells you WHY...
Because Gods SEED..REMAINS IN the man.

It says we will not continue to sin, to make it a habit.

Even your own quote says...CAN NOT GO ON SINNING.

How do you comprehend CAN NOT SIN, CAN NOT CONTINUE TO SIN, CAN NOT GO ON SINNING... to mean, Well, really, you can sin?

If we sin, we become aware of it and we repent of it.

"IF WE SIN"...?? Where is the LIST of SINS?
That any "new" Christian could READ, and then KNOW what these SINS ARE?

Aside from that, we do not sin because we have been born of God, and God's seed remains in us.

So, Gods SEED is IN YOU, WHILE you are sinning?

Can you understand that?

Yes. You are giving me a carnal response.
Can not sin...but can sin.

Do you know WHO Gods Seed is?
It's Christ.

What is your reasoning that Christ is dwelling in SIN...<---> the supposed SIN you are committing, While He is within you....

God Bless,
Taken
 

Taken

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Maybe we could discuss why they don't all apply to you?
But not now.
Good night for real!

Absolutely, and you as well can discuss How they all do apply to you....

Good night for real...lol
God Bless,
Taken
 

Taken

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Yup - I DO believe when Scripture says that Christians sin . . .
James 5:16
Therefore CONFESS YOUR SINS to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed.

1 John 1:8
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is NOT in us.


I also believe Paul when he said that HE sinned - and called himself a "sinner" . . .
1 Tim. 1:5
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners--of whom I am the worst.


I don't believe YOU - because you are in direct conflict with Scripture, my arrogant friend . . .

LOL...I post a specific Scripture, and you CAN NOT claim to agree with that Scripture...

Your evasiveness is RECORDED for all to SEE!!

LOL
 

BreadOfLife

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LOL...I post a specific Scripture, and you CAN NOT claim to agree with that Scripture...
Your evasiveness is RECORDED for all to SEE!!
LOL
No more "evasive" than YOU refusing to address the Scripture verses I have presented.
Your hypocrisy knows no bounds . . .
 

Taken

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No more "evasive" than YOU refusing to address the Scripture verses I have presented.
Your hypocrisy knows no bounds . . .

Address the scriptures you posted.
Yes they are true.

Your turn.

LOL
 

Rollo Tamasi

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Correct. It does not say YOUR words.
It says CAN NOT SIN.

And then it tells you WHY...
Because Gods SEED..REMAINS IN the man.



Even your own quote says...CAN NOT GO ON SINNING.

How do you comprehend CAN NOT SIN, CAN NOT CONTINUE TO SIN, CAN NOT GO ON SINNING... to mean, Well, really, you can sin?



"IF WE SIN"...?? Where is the LIST of SINS?
That any "new" Christian could READ, and then KNOW what these SINS ARE?



So, Gods SEED is IN YOU, WHILE you are sinning?



Yes. You are giving me a carnal response.
Can not sin...but can sin.

Do you know WHO Gods Seed is?
It's Christ.

What is your reasoning that Christ is dwelling in SIN...<---> the supposed SIN you are committing, While He is within you....

God Bless,
Taken
I can't talk to you anymore because you are perfect
 

BreadOfLife

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Address the scriptures you posted.
Yes they are true.
Your turn.
LOL
If they're true - then born again Christians like Paul and John sinned.
How do you reconcile this with your lie that YOU don't?
 

Taken

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I can't talk to you anymore because you are perfect

LOL...Sheesh...the names I get called...
Einstein, prefect, sinless, ..the list goes on.

It's merely about understanding....the very basics, of determining....
who, what, when, why and where.

If you ARE saved and born again; what once applied to you, no longer applies you.

Nutshell...You are NOT the OLD man, "IF" you have become the NEW man.

There is NO, kind of OLD, and kind of NEW.

God Bless,
Taken
 

BreadOfLife

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Just as I thought, a romanist.
Wrong.
I am a Catholic of the Latin Rite. I don't even know what a "Romanist" is.

Do you wanna have a grown-up conversation - or do you want me to humiliate you?
The choice is yours . . .
2. Do you pray to Mary, ever?
I pray to Mary and other saints to pray for me, just as I pray to people on earth to pray for me.
"Pray" simply means to "ASK" . . .
 

Rollo Tamasi

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Wrong.
I am a Catholic of the Latin Rite. I don't even know what a "Romanist" is.

Do you wanna have a grown-up conversation - or do you want me to humiliate you?
The choice is yours . . .

I pray to Mary and other saints to pray for me, just as I pray to people on earth to pray for me.
"Pray" simply means to "ASK" . . .
You fail.
No more questions are necessary.
 
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