well, you def need to die, daily i guess right. So yes. i do not believe that one becomes regenerated after a little altar working, or that some switch gets thrown when we imagine or say that we have got "saved."
God is Patient. He allows men time to grow, mature, become familiar with themselves, before they hear about a God they can NOT see.
God is also QUICK. Ever notice a salesman..
Tells you about a product, gives you the information, how it works, what to expect, warranties, etc. Then once you say OK...
They QUICKLY produce the PAPER, for you to sign, and QUICKY retrieve it from you once you sign??
Your signing is your Agreement to abide by the TERMS.
It is similar when dealing with God.
He doesn't drag you and make you do anything. He doesn't even drag you to the "showroom floor". He disperses, sends out information (ie His Word).
YOU, can choose to go hear, believe, reject, wonder, question, deny, walk away, or keep hearing.
ONCE YOU, call on the Lord and say....OK, Yes, from my heart I believe.
He IS QUICK to change you.
DIE, Death, Dead. Like most things...have duel meanings.
One meaning is CARNAL/Natural.
One meaning is Spiritual.
You are quite familiar with the carnal.
Dead body's of men, dead animals, dead plants, dead trees...
It is simply SOMETHING that once had life in it...now no longer has life in it. Simple.
However Spiritual death is different.
It does not depend on an existing PHYSICAL LIFE, for Spiritual Life or Spiritual Death to exist.
For example;
A natural born man, born physically alive.
IS born Spiritually DEAD.
Spiritually DEAD, is that which IS alive, Has been alive...but which IS separated from God.
A man WHO is confessing to God...is basically SIGNING on the LINE.
We don't literally sign our name on a paper.
We GIVE our permission BY our Word.
When we say, YES, we believe in our heart.
That IS our Word.
And the Lord QUICKLY acts, when a man give HIM, their word of YES.
We are not OBSERVING with our EYES what He is doing........no more than you are SEEING what a salesman is doing when he takes your signed contract and disappears to an other office to record the transaction.
God has a RECORD also. He makes the changes within the man; then there IS a recording made on the mans behalf.
Testimony OF the man, made IN Heaven.
The mans name entered into...
The Lambs book of Life...
(Which will come in handy as the record of the Names of Men, He shall redeem.
Ie. His Chruch, His People).
Also...every good work the man DOES, to glorify Gods name ON earth...is testified of in Heaven...which is the record of evidence, such man shall receive rewards for his efforts of glorifying Gods name on earth.
The spiritual death of a man...is the condition a man is naturally born in...and God absolutely will allow that body to physically DIE, separated from Him (spiritually)
Or
The spiritual death of a man crucified with Christ...IS a spiritual death, God shall restore to a forever living and glorified condition
BECAUSE the man voluntarily GAVE His life TO God to change it, wholly, and to holy.
You can word search WHOLE, in Scripture.
That is speaking of the Lord making a man WHOLE....body, soul, spirit.
Prepared for eternal spiritual life with Him.
You can read of Pauls accounts...he is speaking of yipes...we are changed, but hey man open your eyes, can't you still see your physical body of sin...aren't you appalled.
Yep, we still have a natural body and natural eyes. They have their own purpose (which is another discussion).
However, what we can see Naturally, is MOOT, compared to what God has already ACCOUNTED.
God does not have "natural eyes". He already Sees us as His work accomplished IN US, made Whole.
We are the ones in "waiting".
Many souls waiting in heaven for their body's to be changed.
Waiting to see who of our family and friends shall become saved.
Waiting to see our new bodies.
Waiting to see God as He is.
Waiting for Judgement Day.
Waiting for rewards, crowns.
Waiting to observe an earth without corruption.
Waiting to be in company of others without, sadness, depression, diseases, pain, etc.
Waiting to see what we shall do forever.
God Bless,
Taken