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  1. Truther

    Truther Well-Known Member

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    We are not in the Old Testament. The thief was
     
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    ? funny, im reading about him in the NT, what Book are you in?
    and now its not too hard maybe to see why mjr goes nuts, when Jesus is used as a getoutofjailfree card for some imaginary party in the "next life" that we have now erroneously defined as "heaven," via some imaginary ritual we have defined as "baptism." Your bargain with death will not stand, ok, your deal to cheat the grave will fail, no offense. And your pretend facts are still not true, surely. Pls Quote where aborted babies are standing before the GWT, and use satans dialectic to say another lie, if you would.

    the sad truth of the matter is that you are now twice the sons of hell they are, some religious nut with a nice clean outside of a cup, who has joined a Jesus cult full of other judgemental freaks who all have the same superiority complex bc they all "got baptized" and prolly made some hex signs in the air as a warlock who calls himself "pastor" speaks the correct magic spell over you, to guarantee some imaginary future that cannot in any way be justified by Scripture, and now youre singin "When We All Get to Heaven" despite Jesus' direct Word on the matter bc you are in a trance, bro, and i know that bc i was too. Insurance, jesus.

    And i cant even blame you, i mean look how honest youre being. Fwiw my fam has been in insurance my whole life, and its a scam bro, straight money-laundering is all it is. There is no insurance against thief in the night, and as soon as you can be honest with yourself you will admit that your "insurance" is against the pit you have dug for others, yes?

    Surely baptisms can become as disgusting and pointless as sacrifices and prayers?

    and of course you never answered the Q either, but i understand ok barrister
    no doubt. that you are sure, i mean. Bro pls contemplate that logical thinking thing ok, i know we are all raised to think in lawyer factoids now but this is not how Scripture was written, this is how Scripture was hidden from you to the point that you dont even know when/where heaven is now, even after your Saviour tells you directly imo ok
    jesus look these pointless wormy factoids are not helping your case any, i mean listen to yourself now, the same thief that Jesus Himself told today you will be with Me in paradise "died before Pentecost" to your virtually blank mind and so what is your point there, may i ask? He gotta goto the GWT with the aborted babies? Lol
    jesus, religious ppl, huh

    and fwiw bro you are as OT as it gets ok, me too, i could demonstrate that in about one paragraph
    k have a nice day see you guys
     
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  3. bbyrd009

    bbyrd009 Groper

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    why didnt you tell them to kiss your grits, mjr?
    I mean instead of torturing the same innocents as you were here, who just happen to still be searching there?
    like im doing? :D
     
  4. Truther

    Truther Well-Known Member

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    You seem a bit grouchy today.
    Try speaking in tongues for about an hour in a closet.
    You will like it and be refreshed.
     
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    bbyrd009 Groper

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    you and your sons will be here with me, yeh? Imo do yourself a favor and go find that one, that one that no pastor, ever, will preach in a Sunday sermon bro.
    go with that then, if you like, but wadr that is not even what SiT is about imo
    this is what is deemed as "debating" now i guess?
    have a nice day
     
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    Truther Well-Known Member

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    "jesus look these pointless wormy factoids are not helping your case any, i mean listen to yourself now, the same thief that Jesus Himself told today you will be with Me in paradise "died before Pentecost" to your virtually blank mind and so what is your point there, may i ask? He gotta goto the GWT with the aborted babies? Lol"

    The thief was dead before the Holy Ghost was poured out at Pentecost.
    He died prior to that.
    He was not required to receive the Holy Ghost yet, because it was not yet poured out.
    He found O.T. Grace.
    We find N.T. Grace by obeying Mark 16:16 and Acts 2:38.
    Much easier than dying on a cross alongside Jesus, while repenting.
     
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    I have yet to figure out what it is you are looking for....
     
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    ha easy, how to make all three agree
    i think the secret is there is no "make"
     
  9. marksman

    marksman My eldest granddaughter showing the result of her

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    I can't remember. I did law at university and the golden rule was "Don't ask A QUESTION YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO."
     
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    Im still not getting it, you want christians to agree??, never happen till the veil is lifted and they see the Lord for who He is.
     
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    Christians, lol. No, i meant all three of me, gut/heart/mind sposed to do everything from conviction?
     
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    hey, i understand ok. we make lawyers out of little children, yes.
     
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    Its hard enough to do it with Christ, more or less impossible without Him.
     
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    i dont believe you :)
     
  15. marksman

    marksman My eldest granddaughter showing the result of her

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    We make everyone out of little children as all adults were children before they were adults.
     
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    People apparently like it black and white and so God gave it to them in 'black and white' [actually written down anyway] through Moses. For the most part they seemed to fail the test, and also they for most part did not understand really how they were being tested.

    Then we come together here to hear on the one hand @Truther without a doubt providing the steps he has seen via immersion in the Name along with repentance as shown in scripture to make it in the door.


    Then @mjrhealth also without a doubt advises each person to really meet the Master and let Him direct us.


    And then we have @bbyrd009 without a doubt asking legitimate questions about almost everything regarding the positions of the two others and everyone else. If we keep on asking these questions and digging for the answers so that all the pieces properly fit together we will certainly know all that we need to know.
    Finally we have @marksman without a doubt more recently on the scene advising us to go the way of children, certainly also good advice.


    Of course, @Truther & @mjrhealth & @bbyrd009 & @marksman have each shown us the right way to go...


    That is to say, all four of them are right if the heart of each one is right. Would not God agree?


    "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled." Matt 5:6


    Filled it says! Who has such a hunger and such a thirst? What brings on such a hunger and such a thirst?


    Talking to Jesus!

    Following the steps!
    Asking the questions!
    Becoming as little children!
    Or...?
     
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    Very good and wise post John . ✟
    A touch of 'the Solomon' s' there... :)
     
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    Okay. I will explain to you a serious fact.

    The OT priest serviced the temple.

    Here is what he did.

    Killed an animal at the Brazen Altar...Washed in the Brazen laver....Entered into the Holiest of Holies.

    Now does anyone on this forum understand what this is a type of?

    You guessed right.....Acts 2:38!

    Brazen Altar(repentance/death).

    Brazen Laver(water baptism).

    Enter into Holy of Holies(receive Holy Ghost).

    Anti baptism folks would have made horrible priests as they would skip the Laver.....would not have lasted a day as priests.

    If you saints want to be priests per Peter, then act like a priest.
     
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    Yes, and Acts 2:38 is simply stating in simplified form the type or shadow of the reality seen in the OT rituals you outlined. The reality is seen in them without being them. Because God is merciful and looks at our hearts rather than any superficial doctrines, some of us with righteously directed hearts may make it to the end of our course with Jesus in spite of our ignorance. Thank you dear Lord!
     
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    I like this!
     
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