OSAS being False Doctrine!
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Perhaps your thinking that is why you get so much wrong.
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Understanding the Bible's teachings most definitely does indeed depend upon the reader's education, skill set and intelligence. That should be obvious.
God says it so much better than your error. @JBO
| Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit We are educated by the Holy Spirit..who indwells his Born Again child.....regarding God’s Holy word...which he says in Spirit and truth. We are not educated by the world....the carnal mind can’t understand the Spirit filled word of God..His Holy Bible. |
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One thing you will notice.
Their arguments stop after they post a few verses. and the strawman and anger comes flowing out when we do not see it there way.
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I disagree,
You can be the most intelligent person on earth. Yet not understand a word of scripture.
Once again you have attempted to apply to yourself scripture that is intended for another. The whole of 1 Corinthians 2 is Paul's defense of his and the other apostles and prophets divine inspiration. You are not one of them. You do not speak through divine inspiration.
No, that is not really possible. One and fully understand it, but simply refuse to believe it and believe in God; and that is the problem with too many. The atheist understands what the Bible is saying, he just refuses to believe it.
Once again you are in error and lack spiritual understanding.
If we are Born Again we should have spiritual understanding of God’s word...
As God’s word rightly says.....
In Colossians 1:9-10 Paul prayed that we would be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding. That we would have a walk worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to Him, being fruitful in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God
Romans 8:7-11
Romans 8:7-11 KJV
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.Therefore if they are none of his.....they couldn’t possibly understand his word.....
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Ye must be born again..
John 3:
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
Notice here
Just like Moses lifted the serpent.
Israel had to CHOSE to say Yes God. I believe, and look, or say NO GOD I do not believe and continue on..
He who believed were saved. He who did not believe was dead already, because they did nto believe.
Everyone who practices evil. hates the light, so they chose to stay away from it less their sin be exposed (see Romans 1 and see the pharisee).
Those who do good come to the light, because God has shown them the ill of their ways, and they have repented. and they CHOSE to say Yes God. Save me (see the tax collector)
John 3:
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
Notice here
Just like Moses lifted the serpent.
Israel had to CHOSE to say Yes God. I believe, and look, or say NO GOD I do not believe and continue on..
He who believed were saved. He who did not believe was dead already, because they did nto believe.
Everyone who practices evil. hates the light, so they chose to stay away from it less their sin be exposed (see Romans 1 and see the pharisee).
Those who do good come to the light, because God has shown them the ill of their ways, and they have repented. and they CHOSE to say Yes God. Save me (see the tax collector)
Eternally Grateful
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the things of God are foolishness to those who are not his
The OT religious elite could quote the OT word for word. But they could not understand it at all. Thats why when Christ came they crucified him.
The truly wondrous thing is that salvation does not depend upon the level of understanding the scriptures. It depends upon believing the scriptures and believing in God.
Eternally Grateful
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It depends on believing the gospel. And believing God.
God helps all understand the gospel. It does not take knowing every doctrine to be saved.. Again, the things of God are foolishness to those not his
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In Matthew 18:3, Jesus said, "unless you are converted and become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven." This is how Jesus characterized conversion. It pictures faith as the simple, helpless, trusting, dependence of those who have no resources or achievements to offer or commend themselves with. Jesus is pointing to the need to have the same type of faith that little children exhibit.
Children have not acquired the obstructions to faith that often come with church indoctrination, advanced education and philosophies of men. Jesus calls us to have the same kind of trust that little children naturally have, which takes a humble, dependent heart. People must become as little children in humbly recognizing their helplessness and 100% dependence on Jesus Christ to save them.
Oh my word...I can’t believe you’ve just said this.
How would an atheist understand God’s word without the Spirit?
What does God’s word say , if we don’t have the Spirit?
Seriously..I have tried to help you with posting God’s word...yet you throw it back in my face, to say what you want it to say....sad indeed.
It depends on us being God’s Children and becoming Born Again.....by the Spirit?
| Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder. New Living Translation You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. English Standard Version You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! Berean Standard Bible You believe that God is one. Good for you! Even the demons believe that—and shudder. |
Are you really so arrogant to think that you don't use scripture to say what you want it to say? You are and do precisely what you accuse others of being and doing.
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