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"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 7:21.Just because you were once saved if you turn against God and deny Christ is the Wayyou will not still be saved. unless you repent and turn back to God.thats it you are not once saved always saved you have a free will to break you oathonly if you remain faithful even if you sin are you still saved.
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For one thing claiming someone wasnt truly reborn is a falsehood you can not know that there are a million teachers/preachers out there that truly believe in their hearts they are saved but they teach a false doctrine they will be saved but pay for their evil works
I never claimed any particular person was never saved. You put those words in my mouth. Do you believe everyone who say they are a Christian, are in fact a Christian?
secondly the false prophets verses's is also refering to is Antichrist many will belive he is Christ and the whole world will follow after him, why? because they didnt read Gods Words these will not be saved as they chose to follow Antichrist instead of waiting for the true Christ as we are told.
True, many passages have a two fold meaning.
thridly the last quote in my post wasnt scripture it was my conclusion you are not going to find a scripture that says once saved always saved is or isnt real God expects you read his whole word and then it becomes very obvious that you must keep your promise or the contract is broken
I disagree! If someone in truly saved, they cannot be eternally lost. I do not believe in a God that has nothing to do with my salvation, where I can go in and out of salvation. Good grief! what a life! That is not the God I believe in, nor will I. And to teach such a thing, is to teach a false doctrine.To believe one can be saved at a particular time, only to fall away (loose salvation) then be reborn again, and later fall away again, and finally (hopefully) at the point of death, be saved! WOW, what a life. If this were true Christianity? I don't want it! You can keep it. Like Luther said, eat the feathers and all. I believe in the God of the bible, I am saved because it is His will, and by His grace, through faith, which is also a gift, I am a child of God, regenerated. Saved by the blood of Christ, held by God's power not mine. I can't loose my salvation. I believe Christs promise that He will never leave nor forsake us, even if for a season we backslide. A Christian is sealed by the Holy Spirit. It is all my God's doing, I have nothing to boast about, I owe it all to Him.Here is a couple verses to support OSAS, or Perseverance of the saints, please, look into them in the context.Isaiah 43:1-3, Isaiah 54:10, John 6:35-40, John 5:24, John 6:47, John 10:27-30, Romans 8:35-39, Ephesians 4:30, Hebrews 10:14, Jude 1:24-25 To those who are called, beloved in God the Father and kept for Jesus Christ.Why do people leave? Were they Christians in the first place? 1 John 2:19, They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us. Read this in context. Even by itself it is explicit, they left because they are not of us. These that left, or will leave, leave, not because they are not good Christians, not because they are bad Christians, but because they are not Christians! To say different without passages to support your theory is not safe, or practical. Please, to prove your theory, use more than one or two verses in their proper context, let scripture speak for itself.God Bless.