People are losing their Minds and cannot Think==Wonder Why??

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Joseph77

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I believe they said that it worked much better when used by people who had the virus, to keep from infecting others. Which is true.
THEY SAID.
Not "Which is true." - that is , not proven true. Just "they say".
 

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Here's a couple of studies.
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More available, if you're interested.
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Nah. The foxes ALWAYS SAY , 'they say', that they are protecting the guineas/ the chickens in the chicken pen.
 

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Here's a couple of studies.

Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis
Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis

A Quantitative Assessment of the Efficacy of Surgical and N95 Masks to Filter Influenza Virus in Patients with Acute Influenza Infection
Quantitative Assessment of the Efficacy of Surgical and N95 Masks to Filter Influenza Virus in Patients with Acute Influenza Infection


More available, if you're interested.
I'm interested in why they are effective for First Responders and not everyone else! The latest estimate is the masks are only 70% effective. If they were only 1% effective, a Government that cared about the people would have prescribed them.
 

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If they were only 1% effective, a Government that cared about the people would have prescribed them.
No.
There are other things known that prevent the trouble, near 100%, but are not shared openly or not frequently.
The masks are a 'mask' (a face put on- deceiving, deceptive).
 

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oops.... doing good until this.
More people die of aspirin (or other things associated with it) every year (20,000 deaths or more)
according to AMA, CDC, and FDA sites (i.e. the 'official' medical sites) ...

and if a strong athlete (a healthy person) takes ONE ,

they are bleeding in the brain within ten minutes. (microscopically, but still adds up , and with other things gets worse)

People who suffer a stroke caused by bleeding in the brain -- known as brain haemorrhage -- can take common medicines without raising their risk of another stroke, a major clinical trial has found.


Researchers say the findings are reassuring for the thousands of people who take the medicines to reduce their risk of heart attack and another common type of stroke caused by blood clots in the brain.

Patients were randomly assigned to either start taking antiplatelet treatment or avoid it for up to five years.


The team found that people who took antiplatelet medicines experienced fewer recurrences of brain haemorrhage compared with those who did not take these treatments. Some 12 people suffered a brain bleed while taking the medication compared with 23 people who did not.


This may suggest the treatments reduce rather than increase risk of further bleeding in the brain, the researchers say, but further studies are needed to confirm this.
Aspirin green light for brain bleed stroke patients, study suggests
 

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One death by Fish Tank Cleaner?

Yes, hydroxychloroquine is used to clean fish tanks. Works rather well, because of it's toxicity. This guy just took a little too much. Or maybe he had one of those other conditions that make one sensitive to the toxic effects of the drug.
 

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A lot (all ) double talk.?
For over a century, REAL HELPS have been known, proven effective, better than drugs, low cost, and non-toxic.
Why settle for that which first of all harms ? >>>
(note where the foxes "has found, say, found, 'may' suggest, say )
a major clinical trial has found.

Researchers say the findings are reassuring

The team found

This may suggest

the researchers say
 

Joseph77

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Yes, hydroxychloroquine is used to clean fish tanks. Works rather well, because of it's toxicity. This guy just took a little too much. Or maybe he had one of those other conditions that make one sensitive to the toxic effects of the drug.

i.e. being human.
 

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No,
I meant/ or now mean, where is any proof a mask is ever needed , or helpful ?
South Korea vs. the USA. Why are they more effective than the United States? The ONLY difference is mask wearing.

Logically speaking, since it can be spread by droplets by speaking/sneezing/coughing, the place your face is covered is better protected. As for an n95 (95% filtration) aerosolized viral particles can still get through. A mask is just another tool in the toolbox. Social distancing, wiping down surfaces, washing hands and hand sanitizers all have their limits. It is criminal to put a stigma upon a person who wears latex gloves and mask in public. Just like toilet paper... those who have not get angry at those who were smart enough to be prepared, when they blew off their chance to get the supplies they needed.
 

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Yes, hydroxychloroquine is used to clean fish tanks. Works rather well, because of it's toxicity. This guy just took a little too much. Or maybe he had one of those other conditions that make one sensitive to the toxic effects of the drug.

i.e. being human.
South Korea vs. the USA. Why are they more effective than the United States? The ONLY difference is mask wearing.

MAYBE That's what the foxes say. I do not trust those foxes .
 

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Logically speaking, since it can be spread by droplets by speaking/sneezing/coughing, the place your face is covered is better protected.

"Logic" used by all mankind is to try to prevent anyone from finding the truth.

In jail, for an old example, do you think the inmates can or did avoid contact ?

Yet, with no change except switching to a specific cleaning product, to clean all the floors, ceilings, chairs, toilets, sinks, showers, beds, and so on, just that one change (known),
they ELIMINATED ALL INFECTIONS (of the kind that required medical intervention and anti-biotics) for FIVE MONTHS .

AFTER this was free televised (broadcast on antenna tv),

WITHIN A MONTH (or TWO), that specific cleaning product WAS BANNED, by the foxes guarding the hen house.
 

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More available, if you're interested.
Instead it may well be better, best, and gooder and goodest :)

to look for what people DID during the BLACK PLAGUE, without masks, and their households were not touched by that or any other disease? (as also happened at times, as written, IN SCRIPTURE),
and as also happened AFTER the panama canal was rid of yellow fever and malaria (both deadly contagious diseases when allowed to be) ,
without drugs or masks.
 

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to look for what people DID during the BLACK PLAGUE, without masks, and their households were not touched by that or any other disease?

About 1/3 of Europe died. That doesn't sound like a good result to me. And yes, they wore masks:
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Didn't do much good. You see, bubonic plague is spread mostly by fleas. The fleas prefer rodents, but if the rodents die off, they will bit humans, who will then get bubonic plague. Isolation, cleanliness, and lots of outdoor time were all useful.

and as also happened AFTER the panama canal was rid of yellow fever and malaria (both deadly contagious diseases when allowed to be) ,
without drugs or masks.

Both of those were spread by mosquitoes. So draining or spraying oil on standing water (to kill or prevent mosquito larva) mosquito netting over beds, and use of quinine were successful. Unfortunately, none of those work with COVID-19.
 

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About 1/3 of Europe died. That doesn't sound like a good result to me. And yes, they wore masks:
and so, do you go with them, in error,

or find those who were not affected, as said earlier?

Finding those in error is easy - just look around ! Watch the news or any forum ......
 

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I believe they said that it worked much better when used by people who had the virus, to keep from infecting others. Which is true.

THEY SAID.
Not "Which is true." - that is , not proven true. Just "they say".

As I linked, there are many, many research articles demonstrating this fact. Would you like to see some more?
 

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There is already too many foxes guarding the chickens in the hen house... more will only make it worse.
 

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Trump repeated his endorsement of these medications during a Sunday evening press briefing, stating that the US now has a stockpile of over 29 million hydroxychloroquine pills.

"What do you have to lose?" he said repeatedly, at one point adding: "If it does work, it would be a shame if we didn't do it early."
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Others within Trump's circle also have ties to Sanofi, according to The Times.

The Times reported that one of Sanofi's largest shareholders is Fisher Asset Management, a fund set up by political donor Ken Fisher, who has a history of donations to the GOP and contributed to Trump's 2016 campaign, according to NBC.

However, a representative for Fisher Investments in an emailed statement argued that the holding was not "material" in its size.

The spokesman said: "The company represents less than 0.8% of Fisher Investments' portfolio, and the firm's ownership is less than 0.7% of Sanofi.
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A 0.7% stake in Sanofi was, as of early April 8, worth around $775 million.




Short-term side effects of the medication include nausea, abdominal cramps, and vomiting. Serious side effects or prolonged treatment include liver failure, hearing loss, and muscle paralysis.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned last month against taking the drug without medical supervision.

The CDC added that overdosing on the medication or taking it inappropriately could lead to severe toxicity.

Trump has a distant financial link to a pharma giant that makes the drug he's been pushing to fight COVID-19 — but it's probably worth less than $1,000

I didn't actually know if Trump had any financial reason to be pushing this potentially lethal drug as a nonprescription remedy for COVID-19. I just had a feeling that there might be a reason.

Turns out there are about 775 million of them.

LOL
- Hydroxychloroquine is a prescription drug!

Every prescription drug has SIDE Effects!

Every persons medical history of their "Personal" Medical "issues" are considered BEFORE ANY DRUG is prescribed!

Side EFFECTS, for prescribed DRUGS, ARE "RARELY", harmful....IF taken according to the PRESCRIBED Dosage!

The FACT is:
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Hydroxychloroquine is a DRUG that HAS HAD some success in current clinical trials for Treatment for the COCID19 virus.
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Being prescribed, or a person participating in such a Trial OF COURSE is by, through, a Medical Proffesional!


You want to BAD-mouth Trump for information about Drugs that is successful for him, and may be for others...WHO CARES?

It is already Well Established you ARE, anti-Trump!
Trump Could Provide you WITH...
INFORMATION..."HOW TO";
* Consider Managing your HEALTH issues,
* Consider Manage your FINANCIAL issues.
AND BY YOUR anti-Trump already shown REACTION;
* You Whine and Complain like a spoiled child;
Jealous...His Finances outrank Yours!
Jealous...He is physically fit at his age to Play Tennis.

If YOU would rather drink broth instead of eating a hamburger...
If YOU would rather NOT consider taking a prescribed Drug...
If YOU would rather NOT gamble the Risk of the Stock market...
If YOU would rather believe mankind is scientifically explained by a single celled creature, rather than by the Hand of God...

Do AS YOU please...SO WHAT? No body Cares WHAT "YOU" believe...

Your Belief...simply reveals "YOUR STANDING". Bad-mouthing Others FOR "their" Standing, simply reveals your Jealously.

Stop worrying about WHAT others DO and AND HAVE and Believe...

Glory to God,
Taken
 
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