Here is a problem. You refuse to hear what we say because, in your words, we are "indoctrinated," which strongly implies that we live under an authoritarian religious system, thinking uncritically and believing whatever the minister says.This is the great error of Protestantism... this is the indoctrination i speak about, this is the protestant "dogma" if you will that is so ingrained in all sides of Protestantism that they are blind to it. This is a teaching of men (Luther and Calvin among others). It was a reactionary doctrine to the false and corrupt veneration of the saints and paying indulgences to the saints of the catholic church. In throwing out the dirty bathwater, the reformers threw out the "baby" therein.
I Challenge you to find me the verse that says "all those in Christ are saints".... The saints are chosen by God from amongst the faithful.
I already gave you solid Biblical reasons why all the faithful are called saints, instead of what you believe, that only some are saints. You refused to listen and not only that, but you insulted my intelligence and my integrity. I told you that your behavior is indicative of a "religious" belief, which is not based on sound reason, but on the affirmation of dogma. You are guilty of every charge you level against us.
We can have this discussion of you like, but it will be a discussion or nothing. We are not impressed with your narrative as to why you think Protestants were duped into believing false doctrine. That dog don't hunt.