This bill was approved in Maryland. In the United States!!!! This is APALLING. The Bible says, "Thou shalt not Kill." Sickening.
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Did you stay in close enough communication with her to know her feelings about living for those additional years?My mom asked the doctor to "put her down" and lived ten more years after that! If the doctor was allowed that, she would have missed many more years.
Did you stay in close enough communication with her to know her feelings about living for those additional years?
It takes very little time around incapacitated people in, for instance, a Hospice nursing home, to see our self-serving vanity of thinking we are doing someone a favor by forcing them to live extended years of a life of misery.
I forgot that you are still so young......If youbelie
And it is doing someone a favor by sinning against God by murdering someone? My mom lived in an assisted living nursing home for many years. She had congestive heart failure and dementia.
Who are we to decide when we get to die or someone else is in pain enough to die. Life is just a short time. We suffer only a little while in this life. Not rescuscitating is one thing. To shoot poison into a depressed person because they are sick...that is murder. For a Christian, continuing to live is a crown of life. For a non Christian, it is a death sentence.
I forgot that you are still so young......
As I said, some years may open your eyes. You are speaking of one single incident, and have no awareness of millions of other situations.My mom was 69 when she passed away. She would have been 59 if the doctor fulfilled her wishes. I was 19 at the time. Still living at home. She had to go in a nursing home and it was HARD. We moved to Austin, because my aunt merry knew more about nursing homes and which were best. I lived up there 2 years with her before I just spiraled and needed to get help. But you can't tell me my mom was not happy to have that extended life. She got so much closer to God and repented for a lot of things she could not if she would have been murdered.
As I said, some years may open your eyes. You are speaking of one single incident, and have no awareness of millions of other situations.
BTW, would it have been "murder" if you had let your mother use the car when she wanted to die, and she used the car to affect that outcome? Were you going to refuse her the ability to drive simply because you knew her frame of mind? If so, then you would have had to also restrict her from the kitchen where there are knives and all sorts of poisons in the cabinet. Or what about not letting her bathe because she could have pulled an electrical appliance in the water with her?
The physician who provides pills if a person chooses to take them... are they a murderer? Then you would also have to indict the pharmacy company who made the pills, and the hospital that purchased them.
You can get as emotional as you feel you need to, but it is still ultimately the patient's choice to die.
And it is doing someone a favor by sinning against God by murdering someone? My mom lived in an assisted living nursing home for many years. She had congestive heart failure and dementia.
Nothing is every just black and white.
What about the brave wounded soldiers who said- " Give me a gun and leave me here ( suicide )...I'll hold them off as long as I can."
Did he commit suicide , or did they commit murder???
What about in the war , when a Sergeant had who choose to shoot his own wounded privates, because they would have been tortured if the enemy had captured him..
I know an old friend who actually died at 82 and was happy. But "caring friends" decided that she should be brought back...so she was..
She ended up living for 8 more miserable years..ended up alone in an old folks home...
She was very upset that they hadn't allowed her to be with the Lord.
That fact is Mayflower...half the old people are ALREADY being kept alive by medication and intervention!!
So, they have already circumvented "God's time" for them.
I am not against helping someone who is dying anyway..."out of the door" painlessly. Especially if they want to go quickly.
"Black and white" thinking is not always the answer.
You quoted the OT "Thou shalt not kill"
The NT says love your neighbour as thyself.
I do not do well with pain...what are we trying to prove in making people die slowly in pain "by inches " over many weeks , even months!!
Nothing is every just black and white.
What about the brave wounded soldiers who said- " Give me a gun and leave me here ( suicide )...I'll hold them off as long as I can."
Did he commit suicide , or did they commit murder???
What about in the war , when a Sergeant had who choose to shoot his own wounded privates, because they would have been tortured if the enemy had captured him..
I know an old friend who actually died at 82 and was happy. But "caring friends" decided that she should be brought back...so she was..
She ended up living for 8 more miserable years..ended up alone in an old folks home...
She was very upset that they hadn't allowed her to be with the Lord.
That fact is Mayflower...half the old people are ALREADY being kept alive by medication and intervention!!
So, they have already circumvented "God's time" for them.
I am not against helping someone who is dying anyway..."out of the door" painlessly. Especially if they want to go quickly.
"Black and white" thinking is not always the answer.
You quoted the OT "Thou shalt not kill"
The NT says love your neighbour as thyself.
I do not do well with pain...what are we trying to prove in making people die slowly in pain "by inches " over many weeks , even months!!
Well to me, this is completely wrong. Sometimes it is just a matter of conviction whether the rights and wrongs of something. This will never be okay to me. It is one thing to "die for your friends." But when did the Bible ever talk about it is okay to choose to die for yourself. Some on here don't believe in a Rapture because they don't believe God would take His children out of a trial. How much more to live the entire blink of an eye we call life? God knows when we die. And yea there are machines that keep people alive I don't agree with to a certain point and medicines, etc. I don't believe people should be made to take medicine when they are older if the decide not to. But to take a pill or have shot to be "put to sleep", when is the line drawn in playing God. We are to take up our cross and follow Jesus. And an extra 8 years for a non believer could mean eternal life for them.
This bill was approved in Maryland. In the United States!!!! This is APALLING. The Bible says, "Thou shalt not Kill." Sickening.
Agreed. But Christians should understand that this was all prophesied a long time ago by Paul, so we should expect the world to get worse and worse -- BEFORE IT GETS BETTER WITH CHRIST.This bill was approved in Maryland. In the United States!!!! This is APALLING. The Bible says, "Thou shalt not Kill." Sickening.
I think differently than some Christians about this issue. I watched my mother die a HORRIBLE death from cancer. We were left with a large bottle of morphine, which I later learned doctors sometimes leave with families when a loved ones death is imminent, to help usher them into the next world. I wish I had been smarter. My mother SUFFERED.
Then I watched my mother-in-law suffer the same way. I demanded that she be medicated and the ditzy nurse smiled and said it was on order; as my mother in law lay there gasping for every breath. My friend with cancer called me crying that she didn't have enough money to buy her cancer prescription. Within a few weeks she passed away. I knew she took her own life as we had talked of it many times. She did not want to hang on in a nursing home.
When I visited my MIL in the nursing home I had to pull my sweater over my nose; the stench of urine and decaying bodies was so bad. I told my husband he'd better help me die before he put me in a place like that. I told him I'd crawl out of there. He said the place is like a prison; when someone leaves their bed a buzzer goes off.
All we saw were old old people, tongues hanging out, half slid-down in wheelchairs, not alive but not dead. That is no life. And I do not believe God wants a person's body to be kept alive with their mind gone. In case no one has looked into it, rape happens in those places. One of those high profile cases where a woman was brain dead and a hospital fought to keep her alive (for $$$ nothing else) the family saw the woman's stomach swell; she had been raped by an orderly.
There is no one who could tell me that God wants a person to be kept alive under those conditions. My MIL piteously asked to be taken home but she became incontinent and no one was in a position to care for her.
Euthanasia can be a slippery slope but so can anything else.
One of my family member's has to care for dying patients and it takes a horrible toll. There are some awful deaths. It's so unnecessary when we have the means for people to slip peacefully into the next world.
I believe God is a humane being. Money is one of the biggest motivators of those who push to keep people alive (or rather their bodies). A nursing home tried to entrap my cousin. She had no one and they refused to allow her to leave. It really opened my eyes as to how evil some people are. My cousin called me hysterical. I had to threaten the director with legal action, then they let her out. She told me they wanted her condo. It's a sick system driven by $$.
Please re-think your stance before consigning another human being to living a life they don't want to live. We just had to let our beloved wire-haired terrier go. That little pup defended me with her life and attacked a huge dog 10 times her size. I owed it to her to let her go before she suffered. As much as I wanted her to stay with me I had to make the decision what was best for HER. How in the Name of GOD can we do any less for humans?
Friends of ours just shared that their brother was struck on the side of the road by a drunk driver and lost his leg. He had to wear a waste bag, which was bad enough. The doctor told him they had to take the other leg. He said that he would need round-the-clock care, and would have to sell his house to pay for it. He didn't want to leave his wife destitute. He kissed his wife of many years, told her he loved her and went into his bedroom, wrapped himself in sheets and shot himself. What a terrible, violent death. Why is it so hard for us as a nation to face the fact that sometimes the thought of living is too bad and people will find a way to leave? Why don't we allow them to leave peacefully and humanely? Why force their loved ones to live with seeing them die a tragic death by gunshot?
These aren't anti-Christian views. God is a God of compassion and I don't believe He wants people to die a violent death. Just like how we let our terrier go with dignity, surrounded by love, and slip peacefully to heaven where she'll wait for us, we should do no less for our fellow humans. In this regard, animals are treated better than humans. I don't think God wants or requires that.
Nothing is every just black and white.
What about the brave wounded soldiers who said- " Give me a gun and leave me here ( suicide )...I'll hold them off as long as I can."
Did he commit suicide , or did they commit murder???
What about in the war , when a Sergeant had who choose to shoot his own wounded privates, because they would have been tortured if the enemy had captured him..
I know an old friend who actually died at 82 and was happy. But "caring friends" decided that she should be brought back...so she was..
She ended up living for 8 more miserable years..ended up alone in an old folks home...
She was very upset that they hadn't allowed her to be with the Lord.
That fact is Mayflower...half the old people are ALREADY being kept alive by medication and intervention!!
So, they have already circumvented "God's time" for them.
I am not against helping someone who is dying anyway..."out of the door" painlessly. Especially if they want to go quickly.
"Black and white" thinking is not always the answer.
You quoted the OT "Thou shalt not kill"
The NT says love your neighbour as thyself.
I do not do well with pain...what are we trying to prove in making people die slowly in pain "by inches " over many weeks , even months!!
If someone kills themselves, it is their choice. There shouldn't be made an easy way out. Life is not easy. Assisting someone to kill themself in their last years of life after they have lived through very hard times in life is a disgrace. But yes I am very emotional about this and I will NEVER agree.
But I post this chapter in Psalms, because it brings some peace that we will be with God some day...
Psalm 90
Lord, You have been our dwelling place in all generations. Before the mountains were born Or You gave birth to the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God. You turn man back into dust And say, "Return, O children of men." For a thousand years in Your sight Are like yesterday when it passes by, Or as a watch in the night. You have swept them away like a flood, they fall asleep; In the morning they are like grass which sprouts anew. In the morning it flourishes and sprouts anew; Toward evening it fades and withers away. For we have been consumed by Your anger And by Your wrath we have been dismayed. You have placed our iniquities before You, Our secret sins in the light of Your presence. For all our days have declined in Your fury; We have finished our years like a sigh. As for the days of our life, they contain seventy years, Or if due to strength, eighty years, Yet their pride is but labor and sorrow; For soon it is gone and we fly away. Who understands the power of Your anger And Your fury, according to the fear that is due You? So teach us to number our days, That we may present to You a heart of wisdom. Do return, O Lord ; how long will it be? And be sorry for Your servants. O satisfy us in the morning with Your lovingkindness, That we may sing for joy and be glad all our days. Make us glad according to the days You have afflicted us, And the years we have seen evil. Let Your work appear to Your servants And Your majesty to their children. Let the favor of the Lord our God be upon us; And confirm for us the work of our hands; Yes, confirm the work of our hands.
Psalms 90:1-17 NASB
Psalms 90:1-17 Lord, You have been our dwelling place in all generations. Before the mountains were born Or You gave birth to the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God. You turn man | New American Standard Bible (NASB) | Download The Bible App Now