Poll and thread: Is smoking always a sin?

[farouk]

I use the vaporizers. I still use nicotine in them and know I could cut them out as well BUT...from my years of research on these things, I find nothing bad about them...

So you're still getting along with your vaping?

Some ppl are aiming at nicotine-free vaping; others who probably really want the inhales are okay with it for now.

 

[farouk]

Thanks to all who voted so far in the poll!

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[farouk]

I think the problem goes deeper, into a certain judgmentalism, where one person dictates to another what behavior, other that what is specified in Scripture, is acceptable and not acceptable to God.

Much love!

It's important, what you say, yes.

I think you said you quit smoking, which is great that you managed it; but I guess now that you don't go about "moralizing" against those who haven't yet managed to quit.

(I guess the matter of whether to get a faith tattoo is similar; some Christians will do it, and some won't but either way, giving ppl a hard time about won't achieve much because it's they that will have to learn to live with it, even if they should change their minds.)

 

[marks]

It's important, what you say, yes.

I think you said you quit smoking, which is great that you managed it; but I guess now that you don't go about "moralizing" against those who haven't yet managed to quit.

(I guess the matter of whether to get a faith tattoo is similar; some Christians will do it, and some won't but either way, giving ppl a hard time about won't achieve much because it's they that will have to learn to live with it, even if they should change their minds.)

Yes, I smoked for many years, and quit many years ago. And you are correct, if someone smokes, that's their business between them and God. I don't even assume that they should quit.

I always liked what my little sister used to say. If she ever finds out she's terminal, a year to live, she said she's going to start smoking and get a tatoo.

I think it was Harry Blamires, Highway to Heaven, wrote something about the difference between the man who smokes for the sheer love of tobacco, compared to the man who smokes for the effect of the tobacco, IE, as a drug.

The one uses tobacco to reach an end, in the storyline, as an aid to study. The other uses tobacco for the pleasure of the tobacco itself.

I always enjoyed smoking cigarettes, pipes, cigars, but after a year of cough cough, I quit purely for health reasons.

Much love!

 

[farouk]

Yes, I smoked for many years, and quit many years ago. And you are correct, if someone smokes, that's their business between them and God. I don't even assume that they should quit.

I always liked what my little sister used to say. If she ever finds out she's terminal, a year to live, she said she's going to start smoking and get a tatoo.

I think it was Harry Blamires, Highway to Heaven, wrote something about the difference between the man who smokes for the sheer love of tobacco, compared to the man who smokes for the effect of the tobacco, IE, as a drug.

The one uses tobacco to reach an end, in the storyline, as an aid to study. The other uses tobacco for the pleasure of the tobacco itself.

I always enjoyed smoking cigarettes, pipes, cigars, but after a year of cough cough, I quit purely for health reasons.

Much love!

Interesting thoughts there! Thank-you.

NB: Does your younger sister smoke? (maybe you implied she didn't) and in any case, does she like the idea of getting inked?

 

[marks]

Interesting thoughts there! Thank-you.

NB: Does your younger sister smoke? (maybe you implied she didn't) and in any case, does she like the idea of getting inked?

She doesn't smoke. And I think she avoids tatoos thinking that she could change her mind later. She actually hasn't mentioned it for years, just that I've always remembered what she said.

Much love!

 

[farouk]

She doesn't smoke.

Sounds like she's grateful that she never started! (though seems like she admits she would enjoy it).

 

[farouk]

Yes, I smoked for many years, and quit many years ago. And you are correct, if someone smokes, that's their business between them and God. I don't even assume that they should quit.

I always liked what my little sister used to say. If she ever finds out she's terminal, a year to live, she said she's going to start smoking and get a tatoo.

Not that I "approve" of it, but it's interesting historically that preachers such as C H Spurgeon smoked; in the days before effective medication for gout - from which he suffered - it is supposed to have given him some relief.

 

[marks]

Not that I "approve" of it, but it's interesting historically that preachers such as C H Spurgeon smoked; in the days before effective medication for gout - from which he suffered - it is supposed to have given him some relief.

There ya' go!

And it is a tranquilizer. Smokers, I think, are either Enjoying, Self Medicating, or Abusing.

 

[farouk]

There ya' go!

And it is a tranquilizer. Smokers, I think, are either Enjoying, Self Medicating, or Abusing.

I'm sure there is a lot of truth in what you say, yes.

 

[Waiting on him]

There ya' go!

And it is a tranquilizer. Smokers, I think, are either Enjoying, Self Medicating, or Abusing.

I just sent up a burnt offering, and I would say all three of these apply.
I do believe it’s time for me to quit though, because it’s not very healthy.
As for the OP it’s only a sin for those who seek to save their lives.

 

[farouk]

I just sent up a burnt offering, and I would say all three of these apply.
I do believe it’s time for me to quit though, because it’s not very healthy.
As for the OP it’s only a sin for those who seek to save their lives.

Does Mrs. Waiting on Him smoke as well?

(Often quitting is easier if one's spouse has already quit, etc.)

 

[Waiting on him]

Does Mrs. Waiting on Him smoke as well?

(Often quitting is easier if one's spouse has already quit, etc.)

Yes, she does. I can see how this can be a stumbling block. For the religiously elite, and for those coming to Christ.

 

[farouk]

Yes, she does. I can see how this can be a stumbling block. For the religiously elite, and for those coming to Christ.

Well it's possible to be a smoker, and stay away from certain people when it's done (children, and others, etc.).

While a mother or father's own children may know that the parent in question is a smoker, it doesn't have to be 'in their faces', so to speak.

You wife probably just feels she needs the inhales from time to time, anyway.

 

[farouk]

@VictoryinJesus Back a while, you said:

I have smoked since I was sixteen years old.

If I were you, I would not beat yourself up. If it bothers certain ppl, you might find ways of not doing it in front of them. But beating yourself up doesn't achieve anything; since you've done it for so long, your system probably thinks it needs some inhales from time to time. If you can cut down, and even quit, fine; but don't beat yourself up about it, one way or another.

 

[farouk]

Yes, she does.

Although spouses smoke as individuals, spousal smoking can be a collective, household situation, ranging from husbands and wives who can smoke together if they wish, to coordinating attempts to quit. I guess you guys will long ago have found your own level, together, as far as smoking is concerned.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

@VictoryinJesus Back a while, you said: If I were you, I would not beat yourself up. If it bothers certain ppl, you might find ways of not doing it in front of them. But beating yourself up doesn't achieve anything; since you've done it for so long, your system probably thinks it needs some inhales from time to time. If you can cut down, and even quit, fine; but don't beat yourself up about it, one way or another.

Farouk, you have an excellent memory.

 

[farouk]

Farouk, you have an excellent memory.

Even the preacher Spurgeon smoked - and how he was used so much in the work of the Lord!

So don't beat yourself up, friend.

 

[Waiting on him]

Farouk, you have an excellent memory.

This is truly a gift

 

[farouk]

She doesn't smoke. And I think she avoids tatoos thinking that she could change her mind later. She actually hasn't mentioned it for years, just that I've always remembered what she said.

Much love!

Sounds like she really wouldn't mind doing both...