Pope Francis ok with Same Sex Unions?

[Hobie]

This cant be right, there must be some misunderstanding, or has the Pope really done this?

"Pope suggests blessings for same-sex unions may be possible

VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis has suggested there could be ways to bless same-sex unions, responding to five conservative cardinals who challenged him to affirm church teaching on homosexuality ahead of a big meeting where LGBTQ+ Catholics are on the agenda.

The Vatican on Monday published a letter Francis wrote to the cardinals on July 11 after receiving a list of five questions, or "dubia," from them a day earlier. In it, Francis suggests that such blessings could be studied if they didn't confuse the blessing with sacramental marriage.

New Ways Ministry, which advocates for LGBTQ+ Catholics, said the letter "significantly advances" efforts to make LGBTQ+ Catholics welcomed in the church and "one big straw towards breaking the camel's back" in their marginalization."

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/03/1203170334/pope-suggests-blessings-for-same-sex-unions-may-be-possible

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/world/francis-same-sex-unions-intl-latam/index.html

The pope just opened the door to blessing same-sex couples. This nun secretly blessed one more than 15 years ago.

As Pope Francis suggests the Church may bless LGBTQ Catholics' relationships, Sister Anna Koop talks about privately blessing a friend and her partner.

www.cbsnews.com

Pope Francis signals openness to blessings for same-sex couples

Francis was responding to five conservative cardinals who asked for clarity on the issue before a major global gathering on the future of the Catholic Church begins Wednesday.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Bob Estey]

This cant be right, there must be some misunderstanding, or has the Pope really done this?

"Pope suggests blessings for same-sex unions may be possible

VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis has suggested there could be ways to bless same-sex unions, responding to five conservative cardinals who challenged him to affirm church teaching on homosexuality ahead of a big meeting where LGBTQ+ Catholics are on the agenda.

The Vatican on Monday published a letter Francis wrote to the cardinals on July 11 after receiving a list of five questions, or "dubia," from them a day earlier. In it, Francis suggests that such blessings could be studied if they didn't confuse the blessing with sacramental marriage.

New Ways Ministry, which advocates for LGBTQ+ Catholics, said the letter "significantly advances" efforts to make LGBTQ+ Catholics welcomed in the church and "one big straw towards breaking the camel's back" in their marginalization."

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/03/1203170334/pope-suggests-blessings-for-same-sex-unions-may-be-possible

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/world/francis-same-sex-unions-intl-latam/index.html

The pope just opened the door to blessing same-sex couples. This nun secretly blessed one more than 15 years ago.

As Pope Francis suggests the Church may bless LGBTQ Catholics' relationships, Sister Anna Koop talks about privately blessing a friend and her partner.

www.cbsnews.com

Pope Francis signals openness to blessings for same-sex couples

Francis was responding to five conservative cardinals who asked for clarity on the issue before a major global gathering on the future of the Catholic Church begins Wednesday.

www.nbcnews.com

It seems to me the pope has been handling the homosexuality issue very badly.

 

[Hobie]

It seems to me the pope has been handling the homosexuality issue very badly.

Well, he says one thing to the people and then lets out another for the media, seems a bit of a Jesuit trait.... But now he is defending it, took me a while to find the report AGAIN as the search engines either block it or is it was possible the news sources are using the old, DONT ASK DONT TELL, idea to hide or not report it at all.

"ROME, Jan 15 (Reuters) - Pope Francis on Sunday defended a landmark decision approving blessings for same-sex couples, suggesting that those in the Catholic Church who have resisted it have jumped to "ugly conclusions" because they do not understand it. In a television interview, Francis made his first public comments since the Dec. 18 declaration sparked widespread debate in the Church, with bishops in some countries, particularly in Africa, refusing to let their priests implement it.
"Sometimes decisions are not accepted, but in most cases when decisions are not accepted, it is because they are not understood," Francis said in response to a specific question about the December declaration.

"The danger is that if I don't like something and I put it (the opposition) in my heart, I become a resistance and jump to ugly conclusions," he said during a link from his Vatican residence with the "Che Tempo Che Fa" program on Italy's Channel 9.
This is what happened with these latest decisions on blessings for all," he said, referring to the declaration known by its Latin title Fiducia Supplicans (Supplicating Trust). It was issued by the Vatican's doctrinal department and approved by him.

Since the original declaration, the Vatican has been at pains to stress that the blessings did not amount to an approval of gay sex and should not be seen as anything remotely equivalent to the sacrament of marriage for heterosexual couples.

But even a clarification earlier this month from the Vatican's doctrinal department did not sway bishops in Africa, where in some countries same-sex activity can lead to prison or even the death penalty.

They issued a letter last week saying the December declaration had caused "unrest in the minds of many" and could not be applied because of the continent's cultural context.

Some bishops in France told their priests they could bless gay individuals but not couples.

The Church teaches that gay sex is sinful and disordered and people with same-sex attractions should try to be chaste and the pope appeared to be alluding to this is his response.

"The Lord blesses everyone," Francis said. "But then people have to enter into a dialogue with the blessing of the Lord and see the path that the Lord proposes. We (the Church) have to take them by the hand and lead them along that path and not condemn them from the start".

Since his election in 2013, Francis has tried to make the Church, with its 1.35 billion members, more welcoming to LGBT people, without changing moral doctrine."....

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pope-defends-same-sex-blessings-declaration-says-it-is-misunderstood-2024-01-15/

 

[dev553344]

Yes apparently that is correct. He has not stood with the Saints on the issue of homosexuality. He aligns with the left wing liberals. Sad.

 

[Bob Estey]

Well, he says one thing to the people and then lets out another for the media, seems a bit of a Jesuit trait.... But now he is defending it, took me a while to find the report AGAIN as the search engines either block it or is it was possible the news sources are using the old, DONT ASK DONT TELL, idea to hide or not report it at all.

"ROME, Jan 15 (Reuters) - Pope Francis on Sunday defended a landmark decision approving blessings for same-sex couples, suggesting that those in the Catholic Church who have resisted it have jumped to "ugly conclusions" because they do not understand it. In a television interview, Francis made his first public comments since the Dec. 18 declaration sparked widespread debate in the Church, with bishops in some countries, particularly in Africa, refusing to let their priests implement it.
"Sometimes decisions are not accepted, but in most cases when decisions are not accepted, it is because they are not understood," Francis said in response to a specific question about the December declaration.

"The danger is that if I don't like something and I put it (the opposition) in my heart, I become a resistance and jump to ugly conclusions," he said during a link from his Vatican residence with the "Che Tempo Che Fa" program on Italy's Channel 9.
This is what happened with these latest decisions on blessings for all," he said, referring to the declaration known by its Latin title Fiducia Supplicans (Supplicating Trust). It was issued by the Vatican's doctrinal department and approved by him.

Since the original declaration, the Vatican has been at pains to stress that the blessings did not amount to an approval of gay sex and should not be seen as anything remotely equivalent to the sacrament of marriage for heterosexual couples.

But even a clarification earlier this month from the Vatican's doctrinal department did not sway bishops in Africa, where in some countries same-sex activity can lead to prison or even the death penalty.

They issued a letter last week saying the December declaration had caused "unrest in the minds of many" and could not be applied because of the continent's cultural context.

Some bishops in France told their priests they could bless gay individuals but not couples.

The Church teaches that gay sex is sinful and disordered and people with same-sex attractions should try to be chaste and the pope appeared to be alluding to this is his response.

"The Lord blesses everyone," Francis said. "But then people have to enter into a dialogue with the blessing of the Lord and see the path that the Lord proposes. We (the Church) have to take them by the hand and lead them along that path and not condemn them from the start".

Since his election in 2013, Francis has tried to make the Church, with its 1.35 billion members, more welcoming to LGBT people, without changing moral doctrine."....

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pope-defends-same-sex-blessings-declaration-says-it-is-misunderstood-2024-01-15/

It seems likely to me the acceptance of homosexuality in the world today can be blamed on the pope. And it's led to mutilation of children's bodies in the name of sex change.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Pope Frances is way out of line with the RCC on so many things ! He does not follow up on anything in regards to the duties that other Popes did in regards to any changes made by him, regarding why a change, it's just not carried out in fact. he is an idiot Pope ! and not worthy of the position in fact at all !

This Pope Frances is of this world in fact and has nothing to do with Christ Jesus in fact, for he will not mention the words if he can get away with such in fact, for not upsetting Islam and the Jews !
This is a big deal for him not to offend the Satanist !
Vatican II was all about appeasing this world !
This Pope is friend of this world, for such is of this world, that is full of delusions and deceptions.

What did Jesus say to the Devil himself ? Begone ! for Jesus would not be tempted in fact ! so Jesus dismissed all such temptations.

A worthy Pope of Christ Jesus would not give in to such temptations or delusions but call such out in fact ! for he can not truly be born again in fact for he has not such a regard ! One would up hold Christ Jesus totally first and foremost in ones life regardless of mans futile religions and call them out !

But just like the Media is a whore, who always attacked worthy people who stand up for Christ Jesus as we seen that Whore attack Pope Ben and JP II 24/7 in fact slandering them both but loves this Godless Pope Frances, why is that ? well it's because this moronic Pope clearly does not have any regards for Christ Jesus in fact ! His god is Lord Rothschild ! as he demonstrated on TV in fact.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

This cant be right, there must be some misunderstanding, or has the Pope really done this?

It doesn't matter... non Christians do all kinds of evil stuff.

 

[Hobie]

Looks like there is resistance from some true believers...
'Some Catholic bishops reject Pope’s stance on blessings for same-sex couples. Others are confused
In an extraordinary pushback against Pope Francis, some Catholic bishops in Africa, Poland and elsewhere say they will not implement the new Vatican policy allowing blessings for same-sex couples.

Others downplayed the policy approved this week by Francis as merely reaffirming the Vatican’s long-standing teaching about marriage being only a union between a man and a woman.

The reactions show how polarizing the issue remains and how Francis’ decade-long effort to make the church a more welcoming place for the LGBTQ+ community continues to spark resistance among traditionalist and conservative Catholic leaders...."

Some Catholic bishops reject Pope's stance on blessings for same-sex couples. Others are confused

Some Catholic bishops say they will not follow the Vatican’s new direction on allowing blessings for same-sex couples.

apnews.com

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

The reactions show how polarizing the issue remains and how Francis’ decade-long effort to make the church a more welcoming place for the LGBTQ+ community continues to spark resistance among traditionalist and conservative Catholic leaders...."

It's possible with a name like "Francis", maybe he is really a she

Maybe the bishops will hire a team of brave souls to go in and take a look!