Ok Epi, I see you are not really interested in what I have to say and offer to you. Instead you now wanting to fight with me, by misconstruing my words. adding in ideas not mine or considered, in a desperate attempt to defend yourself and your doctrine. Now is that anyway to discuss your personal doctrine. maturely?The high calling is into the perfection of Christ. You can call that elitist...as in you need faith.
But I am not a one trick pony as are my detractors. I also see the lower walk...the meek...inheriting the earth...finding a place among the saved righteous nations in the next age. And the saints (the elite) will rule over them.
So there is a salvation from sin NOW...and a future inheritance among the faithful who endure in righteousness till the end.
You are missing what salvation is. You are basing this on a religious qualification...and not a salvation from sin by the grace of God.
You are not seeing how Paul was seeking to "win" Christ. This is SO little understood that people read the same things over and over without even a glimmer of truth dawning on them.
Why would Paul who was doing miracles was still trying to win Christ? Are there ANY honest seekers here?
You are not understanding holiness. ...or righteousness. So its easy to see them all as the same. It's the same with quantum physics...do you see a difference between that and string theory? Or does it all seem the same to you?
Most believers will never know the higher walk....that's why the stubborn ones will complain about it. But a truly righteous person doesn't think they know everything...so they remain humble. God saves the guests as well as the Bride. The nations are to be filled with the righteous...of any and all religious affiliations. Only the saints rule with Christ over the nations.
That is the test of the lower walk...to esteem others as higher than themselves. An example of this is with Cain and Abel. Was Abel not approved by God? Not so Cain. So instead of trying harder or changing his ways, Cain complained...as many many do.
So then you, to be righteous, need to stop acting like Cain...and more like Abel.
If you get it right won't God also accept you?
Resorting to clearly outlandish ideas that are yours, and yours alone, not mine, concerning my own words. This does not bother me as it only reflected upon you of course.
Ex1...you said"
So then you, to be righteous, need to stop acting like Cain...and more like Abel.
Do you know what you are truly saying here? I think not. I can explain WHY you have to resort to this lower level of walk...
Ex2. You accuse me of knowing salvation as only a religious qualification only, without knowing your qualification or basis for saying it. How elitist of you.
I have not even begun to speak of sin and the grace of God relationship for salvation yet, as the subject has not come to even warrant a discussion of it.
Do you really want me to? If yes, I will then compare what you consider grace for salvation and mine. You may not like what you read...
And lastly, most of your response is a frantic reaction to my post that exited as gabbage...nonsense. And I have no time to spend on each statement. If you really want me to, then I will do it for you. And you won't like it either.