Proof of genuine Christianity a believer needs to believe in = the five fundamentals of the faith=The deity of Jesus, Virgin birth of Jesus, Jesus"s Blood atonement, Jesus's soon return. Or be lost and bound for hell. Do you??
Proof of genuine Christianity a believer needs to believe in = the five fundamentals
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Many people have no idea what real born again, believers believe== Proof of genuine Christianity a believer needs to believe in = the five fundamentals of the faith=The deity of Jesus, Virgin birth of Jesus, Jesus"s Blood atonement, Jesus's soon return. Or be lost and bound for hell. Do you??
Which of the five fundamentals of the faith can a real born again believer NOT believe??=The deity of Jesus, Virgin birth of Jesus, Jesus"s Blood atonement, Jesus's return
Any of us can believe those things, and a lot more. My questioning is "Why" those things are requirements some of us have put on others in order for them to "prove" they are Christians, when Jesus never asked the same things of us to become His child and be "saved."
If you just ignore the question ===you waste my time===Which of the five fundamentals of the faith can a real born again believer NOT believe??=The deity of Jesus, Virgin birth of Jesus, Jesus"s Blood atonement, Jesus's return
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Well I believe that one must first Believe in GOD. The first words of the 10 Commandments are - I AM the God that brought you out of Egypt!
The I AM is an Indicative command, you believe He is, or you do not!
If you believe God IS, then you can believe that Jesus is His Son = Deity, then If you believe in the word of God, the Account of the messenger, confronting Mary, and expressing the Fact that the Spirit of God would overshadow Her, and from that She would Give Birth to the Son of God, then you have the Faith to except that He was Created in Her womb = Virgin Conception, now we are well on our way to Accept the Fact that the Blood that Jesus shed was for our Salvation, the Perfect man fell in the Garden and brought death, and the Perfect man brought Life back for all who except His Sacrifice = Blood Atonement, as far as His soon return, we are to believe that He will return when all His Fathers Enemies are made His Footstool, this God only knows. And of Course if anyone Denies the previous then they are in danger of the wrath of God!
So what was or is your point, no rely no offence ! I believe these facts, but how do I prove this to someone on the other end of my computer?
LOL, I am overweight, so I am not a little man, come on smile, I am also old, so I am not a little Old man ether, its OK to laugh, I am just a fool, for Christ! Peace, Shalom
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This is a load of you know what!!
No where does it say " if you don't believe these you are going to hell."
And the Church wonders why many do not like, or want to be Christians.
It people like you who believe such garbage that drives people away from Church.
Which of the the five fundamentals of the faith=The deity of Jesus, Virgin birth of Jesus, Jesus"s Blood atonement, Jesus will return, Do you not believe??
While believing these truths is necessary to be sound in the faith, that does not determine one's eternal destiny. It is obedience to the Gospel (which results in the New Birth) which determines whether a person is bound for Heaven or for Hell.
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Mark 16:15,16)
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. (John 3:36).
BTW, you continually say "five", yet you keep on posting only "four." Not that any of them mean a thing toward Salvation, but you really should try to post "five" if that is what you are selling.
Which of the five fundamentals of the faith can a real born again believer NOT believe and still be a "christian"??=The deity of Jesus, Virgin birth of Jesus, Jesus"s Blood atonement, Jesus's return, Bodily Resurrection.
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There are none that I do not believe...I believe them all...but each person sees different depths in each..none are 'cookie cutter.'
What I do not believe is your total false hood when saying:-
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"Proof of genuine Christianity a believer needs to believe in etc etc
Or be lost and bound for hell."
Garbage.
Many "true Christians" see variations of your five...and NOWHERE did God say that these five are "proof" of a Believer!!
You made that up yourself.
My bible tells me that when a person believes that that Jesus died for their sins and that they are cleaned by His blood....they are saved. Period.
YOU added all the rest... Do you have bible references of those other four stating that they are 'a MUST ?'
Again!! Which of the five fundamentals of the faith can a real born again believer NOT believe and still be a "christian"?
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You are blathering...you are not answering or giving any scriptural backing for your post here!! Why?
A Christian obviously believes them all, in some measure.
But YOU added the part saying that if they did not, they would go to hell.
Nowhere in the bible does it say that...nowhere!
That that which YOU added I do NOT agree with. Why?
Simple...because GOD DID NOT SAY IT! You did!!
The five fundamentals of the faith =The deity of Jesus, Virgin birth of Jesus, Jesus"s Blood atonement, Jesus's return, Bodily Resurrection. Who can be a real born again "Christian" but not believe any of the five fundamentals of faith?? And if people die without believing what is needed to be a real "Christian" where will they spend eternity??
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All you keep doing is repeating the same old thing.
You add nothing...you do not substantiate what you say with scripture.
Who made you God about speaking where people will spend eternity...that is God's call.
Neither have you shown where it says that the other four by being not believed will take a person to hell.
To keep on repeating over and over the same thing, prove nothing.
You add nothing...you do not substantiate what you say with scripture.
Who made you God about speaking where people will spend eternity...that is God's call.
Neither have you shown where it says that the other four by being not believed will take a person to hell.
To keep on repeating over and over the same thing, prove nothing.
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