Purpose of the Millennium

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You seem to think people will be walking around this earth while Christ is here,still in their flesh bodies.Just not true !!

Again my God is a God of the living...

Nobody is dead ,those that don't make it will die the 2nd death,which is of their very soul
 

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If they are not immortal why is it they need not worry about the 2nd death?
Because they can die again, as Lazarus did, but as their names are Written in the Book of Life, they will receive immortality at the GWT Judgment. The 'second death' is the Lake of Fire; Revelation 20:15
Pauls prophecy is the Day of the Lord,which starts the millennium .

What is the Day of the Lord to you?
Which Day of the Lord do you mean? There have been Days when the Lord has acted in the past and the next prophesied event will be the terrible Day of the Lords fiery wrath; the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster. Then, a few years later, the great Day of Almighty God; Revelation 16:14, when Jesus comes in His glory, destroys the armies at Armageddon and commences His Millennium reign.
Then, finally the Day of Judgment, after the Millennium.
 

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You seem to think people will be walking around this earth while Christ is here,still in their flesh bodies.Just not true !!

Again my God is a God of the living...

Nobody is dead ,those that don't make it will die the 2nd death,which is of their very soul
Isaiah 65:20 makes it clear; there will be death during the Millennium.
 

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Isaiah 65:20 makes it clear; there will be death during the Millennium.

No, that's just an expression for longevity. It is not to be taken literally. As best as it could, it is Old Testament Scripture referring to the resurrection body state everyone will experience when Jesus returns.

Isa 25:6-9
6 And in this mountain shall the LORD of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.

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And He will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.

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He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of His people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

9 And it shall be said in that day, 'Lo, This is our God; we have waited for Him, and He will save us: This is the LORD; we have waited for Him, we will be glad and rejoice in His salvation.'
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The only type death remaining after Christ's return is the "second death", which is the casting into the future "lake of fire" at the end of His thousand years reign over the nations.
 
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No, that's just an expression for longevity. It is not to be taken literally. As best as it could, it is Old Testament Scripture referring to the resurrection body state everyone will experience when Jesus returns.

Isa 25:6-9
6 And in this mountain shall the LORD of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.

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And He will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.

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He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of His people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

9 And it shall be said in that day, 'Lo, This is our God; we have waited for Him, and He will save us: This is the LORD; we have waited for Him, we will be glad and rejoice in His salvation.'
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The only type death remaining after Christ's return is the "second death", which is the casting into the future "lake of fire" at the end of His thousand years reign over the nations.
Isaiah 25:8 obviously refers to after the Millennium. Proved by Revelation 21:1-7
Immortality cannot be conferred until the Book of Life is opened, at the GWT Judgment, AFTER the Millennium.
 

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Isaiah 25:8 obviously refers to after the Millennium. Proved by Revelation 21:1-7
Immortality cannot be conferred until the Book of Life is opened, at the GWT Judgment, AFTER the Millennium.

You wrong.Those in Christ,ie, the first resurrection are automatically immortal,that's why the second death has no power over them...
 

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You wrong.Those in Christ,ie, the first resurrection are automatically immortal,that's why the second death has no power over them...
The belief that anyone receives immortality before the GWT Judgment, is wrong and contradicts scripture.
Obviously; you are unable to prove your case with scripture, yet you continue to push that false belief.

Those raised at the Return, the Trib martyrs; Revelation 20:4, may and can die again naturally, a second death. But as their names are Written in the Book of Life, they will automatically receive immortality at the GWT Judgment.
 

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The belief that anyone receives immortality before the GWT Judgment, is wrong and contradicts scripture.
Obviously; you are unable to prove your case with scripture, yet you continue to push that false belief.

Those raised at the Return, the Trib martyrs; Revelation 20:4, may and can die again naturally, a second death. But as their names are Written in the Book of Life, they will automatically receive immortality at the GWT Judgment.

The 2nd death is the death of the soul dude. Those in Christ at His return are automatically immortal...You keep ranting ,yet you don't answer my question. Answer just this one

Revelation 20:6 "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."

If the 2nd death has no power over the above,how are they not immortal????
 
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Isaiah 25:8 obviously refers to after the Millennium. Proved by Revelation 21:1-7
Immortality cannot be conferred until the Book of Life is opened, at the GWT Judgment, AFTER the Millennium.

No, the resurrection of both... the Just and the unjust, happens when Jesus returns, as written (John 5:28-29). This is exactly what that Isaiah 25 is showing that I quoted. Christ's future Millennial reign is going to be the start of the world to come, but not the new heavens and a new earth just yet. When Jesus returns, that will be the end of man in flesh bodies. No more of that. This is what Isaiah 25 is showing, flesh death being swallowed up for ALL... peoples.

In the Greek of 1 Corinthians 15, Apostle Paul revealed this future event. The difference between the saved and the unsaved in that time right after Christ's 2nd coming is with the condition of one's soul.

The wicked will have resurrection bodies too, but still liable to perish in the lake of fire, which is called the "second death" (Rev.20). Those in Christ will instead have resurrection bodies that can never die, and thus they are not subject to the "second death" as written.
 

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If the 2nd death has no power over the above,how are they not immortal????
Because immortality is not and cannot be conferred until the Book of Life is opened; at the GWT Judgment.
Revelation 20:4 plainly states that the Trib martyrs 'are brought back to life and lived and reigned with Christ for the thousand years.
Maybe they will live longer than Methuselah, but that is doubtful. However if they do die naturally, their Eternal life is assured at the GWT, after the Millennium. Their souls never die the Second Death.
No, the resurrection of both... the Just and the unjust, happens when Jesus returns, as written (John 5:28-29).
John 5:28...the hour will come when all in the graves will hear His voice....
Scripture does not support your belief that the 'hour' of the general resurrection happens at the Return of Jesus.
Revelation 20:11-15 tells us; that time comes AFTER the Millennium.
You, n2thelight and millions of others have believed false teaching. The only people that will be raised at the Return are the Trib martyrs.
 

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John 5:28...the hour will come when all in the graves will hear His voice....
Scripture does not support your belief that the 'hour' of the general resurrection happens at the Return of Jesus.
Revelation 20:11-15 tells us; that time comes AFTER the Millennium.
You, n2thelight and millions of others have believed false teaching. The only people that will be raised at the Return are the Trib martyrs.

Well, John 5:28-29 does declare the resurrection on the day of Jesus' 2nd coming. That's what those very verses are about. You can deny them all you want, won't change the Truth of them.
 

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Well, John 5:28-29 does declare the resurrection on the day of Jesus' 2nd coming. That's what those very verses are about. You can deny them all you want, won't change the Truth of them.
But those verses don't say that all will be resurrected at Jesus Return at all.
The Truth is that all will be raised and Judged at the Great White Throne - AFTER the Millennium.

You have believed a lie and what is worse, you promote it as truth.
 

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But those verses don't say that all will be resurrected at Jesus Return at all.
The Truth is that all will be raised and Judged at the Great White Throne - AFTER the Millennium.

You have believed a lie and what is worse, you promote it as truth.

So you believe in the resurrection of the flesh?Not happening,flesh is dirt and that's where it shall return
 

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So you believe in the resurrection of the flesh?Not happening,flesh is dirt and that's where it shall return
What did those resurrected from their graves, when Jesus rose from the tomb, get round in? Matthew 27:52-53 They died again.
Flesh is atoms, molecules, cells, call them what you want, they are wonderfully stitched together by God. He does it in the womb for all of us, why not for the dead [and well rotted] martyrs?

A general resurrection into immortality at the Return of Jesus is not in the Bible. It is a false teaching, a theory that many, incl you, have fallen for.
 

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What did those resurrected from their graves, when Jesus rose from the tomb, get round in? Matthew 27:52-53 They died again.
Flesh is atoms, molecules, cells, call them what you want, they are wonderfully stitched together by God. He does it in the womb for all of us, why not for the dead [and well rotted] martyrs?

A general resurrection into immortality at the Return of Jesus is not in the Bible. It is a false teaching, a theory that many, incl you, have fallen for.


Again no its not ,let Paul explain this to you again

I Corinthians 15:35 "But some man will say, "How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?"

Do you see the question in this verse? You are that man.

Now Paul will answer you,not me

I Corinthians 15:44 "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body."

There is a natural body, which is your flesh body, and there is also a spiritual or soul body. The two are different and when the natural body, or flesh body dies the spiritual body is "raised", or in the Greek text "egiro, awakened, become active from its death". You have two bodies, one natural body contains your spiritual body, and that spiritual body is awakened to a new life, when the flesh or natural body dies and releases your soul. Your spirit and your soul are together, for the spirit is your "self", "the intellect of your soul" which houses your spirit within you.

Your spirit never leaves your soul, even at the death of your flesh body. Satan does not have any power over your spiritual body, but only your flesh body. Man and Satan can tare this flesh body to peaces and cause you to do all sorts of things, but no-one can damage your soul, not man, not Satan nor the angels. God is the only one that can destroy the soul and that comes at the end of the Millennium age, following judgment. However through deception Satan can cause you to sin against God, and thus be in trouble before the Almighty God. But that is why we have repentance in the name of Jesus to become right-standing before the Father again.

It just can't be made any clearer than Paul has made it here. You have two bodies, the flesh and the spiritual bodies. When the flesh body dies, then the spiritual body is awakened and come alive within itself. It starts to live a life without the baggage of the flesh body confining it to the limits of the flesh.
 

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I Corinthians 15:44 "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body."
The raising into a spiritual body does happen, but not until AFTER the Millennium. AFTER Death is no more, AFTER the GWT Judgment.

1 Cor 15 details the change that happens to those found worthy for Eternity.
There is no scripture that says this change will take place before that. It's illogical and just a fable believed by the 'rapture' dreamers.
 

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The raising into a spiritual body does happen, but not until AFTER the Millennium. AFTER Death is no more, AFTER the GWT Judgment.

1 Cor 15 details the change that happens to those found worthy for Eternity.
There is no scripture that says this change will take place before that. It's illogical and just a fable believed by the 'rapture' dreamers.

Show me why you think Paul was speaking about this being after the GWT
So are you saying that Christ will not return until after the millennium ?
 

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Show me why you think Paul was speaking about this being after the GWT
So are you saying that Christ will not return until after the millennium ?
Jesus will Return exactly 1260 days after the Anti-Christ desecrates the Temple. He will then reign on earth for 1000 years.

Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:54-56....when this perishable body has been clothed with immortality; THEN this prophecy will come true: Death where is your victory, where is your sting?
We know that death will happen during the Millennium, Isaiah 65:20 and how the armies of the world are killed by God; Revelation 16:14, Revelation 19:21
Death is only, finally done away with when the New Jerusalem and God Himself, comes to the earth. Revelation 21:1-7

You demand proof from me, what about you providing scripture that says anyone receives immortality, or a glorified body before the GWT Judgment and the Book of Life is opened. We have the Promise of it, John 3:16, but not the reality until Gods plan for mankind is all over.
You may think verses like Philippians 3:21 does, but there again Paul doesn't say when and that verse does go on to say; to make all things subject to Himself. Which happens after the final battle against evil. Revelation 20:7-10

I put it to you straight: you and millions of others have been deceived. There is no easy path out from the testing times ahead. 1 Peter 4:12
We must stand firm in our faith and trust in the Lord for His protection. Joel 2:2-32, Acts 2:21
 
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Jesus will Return exactly 1260 days after the Anti-Christ desecrates the Temple. He will then reign on earth for 1000 years.

satan only reigns for 6 months,as his time was shortened

Now for Paul ,thinking you need to study a tad more

I Corinthians 15:53 "For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."

Through this entire chapter Paul has brought to our attention that we have two bodies within each of us. We have our physical body, which is made up of flesh and blood, and we have our spiritual body which is called our soul. The flesh body will die at some point in time and the spiritual body or soul body that houses or spirit will live on after death. "Mortal must put on immortality" applies only to the soul, for all flesh will be gone at death, or at the sounding of the seventh trumpet. So immortality applies only to the soul body, and even in the incorruptible body the sting of death of that soul is still on it if that soul has not received eternal life. Immortality for the soul in the Millennium age is only one those souls that have eternal live, and did not worship Satan, and take on his name, and the number of the beast.

So the flesh body must be put aside before we put on our incorruptible body that will not age through the entire Millennium age. The Word "Mortal" again means "liable to die". The object of this verse is the body, and the corruptible flesh body must be changed into the body that doesn't grow old. All through this fifteenth chapter we have documented that Christ is a live, and that he lives, and it is for that reason that we are Christians. It would be senseless to be Christians if Christ did not come out of the tomb.

"This mortal must put on immortality," again means that the soul that is mortality must also put on immortality. Christ taught in Matthew 10:25-28.

Matthew 10:25 "It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his Lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of the household?"

It is sufficient that the pupil become like his teacher. Our purpose is to keep on studying to where you can have people rely on what you say. When Christ walked the earth, if they called Him Beelzebub [Satan, or lord of the flies], know also that they will also say that you are of Satan. Jesus is telling us to not worry about it, we will have the victory.

Matthew 10:26 "Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.".

God has already revealed everything that you will face in His Word, and there will be nothing that you will go through that should be a surprise to you. You can expect what is prophesied to come your way, as well as the protection that will be given you by God. The thing that is important is that you are obedient to God's Word, and His Son, and keep committed to serve Him.

Matthew 10:27 "What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops."

Those things that are revealed to you by your studies, and in the night are the things that you tell others about. Jesus is telling His disciples that those thing that they here Him teaching about, those are the things to tell others about. The "Preaching from the housetops", means "to spread the Word."

Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him Which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

Man can kill your body but no man, not even Satan can kill your soul. To "destroy" is to cause you "to perish" or "cease to exist". It is only God that can judge your soul to hell fire and that comes after the judgment day. "Mortal" means "liable to die", and whether your soul dies or not is left up to God's judgment.

I Corinthians 15:54 "So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, "Death is swallowed up in Victory." "

So your soul must put off the physical body, and this soul but be changed from a state of possible destruction by sin, and put on immortality through the shed blood of Christ before this saying can be true. "Death is swallowed up in Victory", when your sins are blotted out and made as they had never been committed. Then we have eternal life in Jesus Christ. There is still death until after the Millennium age.

I Corinthians 15:55 "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?"

Because Jesus paid the price the grave has no victory, it may in our hearts of our loved ones, but in time that will be all over and done. It is so comforting to know that our loved ones are there with Him. At the end of the Millennium age, then all sting of death will be removed. Even the thought of those that did not make it will be removed from our minds.

I Corinthians 15:56 "The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law."

It is through the law that sin is given power, and people seem to enjoy breaking the law. "Strength" as given in the Greek text is "dunamis", "a power or abundance", and the power that sin has is pointed out to us through the law of God. The "law" is the school master that teaches us God's ways, and when we fall short of the law, the sting of death is placed upon us.
 

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Now for Paul ,thinking you need to study a tad more
Nowhere in your lengthy reply above, do you give any proof or even hint, that immortality can happen to anyone before the final Judgment.

You just make assumptions, conjectures that you have to do or the whole theory of a 'rapture to heaven', and living alongside mortals during the Millennium; crashes down.
It would be far better to reject all unbiblical and false theories and understand the truth, then the fanciful expectations wouldn't be dashed.