"Pushing the Homosexual Agenda"

[Enoch111]

t didn’t matter that Ely and Taylor were barred from marriage by a law later voided as unconstitutional.

The Constitution never even envisioned same-sex marriage. Had the Founding Fathers had any inkling that this would be a problem, they would have barred it constitutionally as a crime against humanity.

 

[Candidus]

Without a divine Creator, there is no morality; it is just what we believe is right or wrong for ourselves. If that Creator defines what is right (holy) and wrong (sinful), Homosexuality, or any other “sin” is determined by that Creator, and not by our opinions. If we make morality a matter of society, then we should have listened to the Nazi defenders at the Nuremburg War Crimes Trials. Their primary argument for the defense was the German Nazi Worldview. Society (the German Government and the people) did not believe that killing Jews was wrong! It was not only legal for them to do so, but it was also encouraged! So, how can they be judged by other men when they were only following what society wanted? This obviously failed, and the Nazi’s on trial were condemned based upon a Biblical Worldview, and not the German Worldview.

Morality is essentially a theological issue; it does not change with time. Spiritual answers about Christianity can be derived from Christian history, but the final authority is the Word of God. There is one primary source for determining what is sin and what separates one from God, and that is the Bible. Can we really know for sure? The moral test of any activity, including the activity of the Church, is judged by what God says and not by any appeals to fairness and equity, and certainly not by any societal consensus.

 

[Candidus]

The Constitution never even envisioned same-sex marriage. Had the Founding Fathers had any inkling that this would be a problem, they would have barred it constitutionally as a crime against humanity.

Because marriage between two same-sex adults is not a marriage!

 

[Cristo Rei]

Within that society, yes.

I think that is the way most millennials look at morals... Just have a vote...
So something can be right 50 years ago but wrong now or wrong in our society but right in another society... LoL that is just stupid

Our sexual morals are centered around family. These same morals have been proven to over thousands of years to be successful in Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Taoism and Buddhism. In fact there is no successful culture on earth that doesn't have family morals.

Your perverse morals on the other hand have proven time and time again to be a complete disaster. I know u kids "feel" that your being moral but that's all it is, your "feelings". But facts don't care about feelings. Facts remain facts whereas feelings change.

There is no family objective. 50 years ago they started with open adultery before the rest of the crap.
And what do we see... Broken families everywhere, a divorce rate of 50%. Kids being raised by single mothers to grow to become criminals and junkies.

This might "feel" revolutionary but its not, this kind of sexual deviation has happened plenty of times before, and each time it contributed to the collapse of a society. The Minoans became gay and collapsed, the Greeks became gay and collapsed, the Romans became gay and collapsed. And now those of us who know history can see that our society is collapsing...

So while u argue for sexual deviations that u know nothing about the same sexual perversion is helping to bring down the west.

 

[Cristo Rei]

Family orientated sexual morals = Over 7,000 years of success across multiple cultures world wide

Deviated sexual morals = Proven to be unsuccessful every time across multiple cultures world wide

Its really that simple. Without God one must look back to know how to look forward.
It's impossible to know what is universally right by looking at your own feelings.
Morality isn't an election. And even it was, most of the people in the world disagree with deviant sexual acts
Only in the west where the education system has been taken over by trannies and dykes do we see this brainwashed generation regurgitating such nonsense.

So which sexual deviation will be forced into our society next. Will it be pedophilia, will it be necrophilia. I personally think it will be zoophilia. Or the way things are going, the west could collapse very soon as effeminate leaders destroy our culture through fear of getting a flu. Coronaphobia

Past societies that became gay became effeminate. Then when they were attacked by more manly forces like the barbarians they were too weak and effeminate to win anything on the battle field. Men became more concerned with wearing dresses than being masculine.
Same thing we see now. Men are more like women. Masculinity is considered toxic. And that is why we are collapsing. Effeminate men, aka soyboys.

 

[Cristo Rei]

@Justadude

So that is homosexuality debunked from a historical and moral perspective.
I can debunk it from a logical, natural and scientific perspective as well if u like

 

[Cristo Rei]

Don't look back, its just Upside-down fireworks, nothing to see here.

Hahaha ye, inverted fireworks...
But that just makes it sound even more exciting.
If the angel had said "don't look back, it just an inverted fireworks display" then surely they would of all became pillars of salt, Lot, Sarah and the 2 daughters. I feel sorry for Sarah.

But listening to the story again just now it brings tears to my eyes. When this time comes we will be lead away to safety???
Im pray to God that I don't have to bare witness to this punishment...

 

[Taken]

The reason I say egotistical is due to the religious typically viewing other through a different lense than they view themselves.

That could be with some people whose outlook is "they" are "

And they're not equivalent.

It doesn't matter, judging one, a few or many, judging is judging, it doesn't require an appointed position and black robe, everyone judges.

Scripture is not Against judging, it simply teaches to Judge Rightly.
For a person whose belief is in the Lord God Almighty, Rightly judging is according to Gods
Precepts, not ego.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[marksman]

This past weekend, Disney/Pixar released a nine-minute short film titled "Out", which is about a young man's struggles with coming out to his parents as gay. It's the first Disney/Pixar film that centers on being gay, with a gay main character.

As expected, Christian groups are upset. That by itself is no big deal. The proper reaction to them being upset over the film is "So?" However, it's what they claim to be upset about that's concerning. A good example is the Christian news site LifeSiteNews, where they refer to the inclusion of LGBTQ characters and actors as "promotion of the LGBT agenda". Ken Ham of AnswersinGenesis said Disney "continues to push the LGBTQ agenda on kids" in a tweet.

The only thing I can take away from those reactions is that conservative Christians believe merely acknowledging the existence of LGBTQs by including them in movies is "pushing their agenda". That leads to an obvious set of questions.

How exactly do they think this works? Do they think that otherwise straight kids will see LGBTQ characters in movies and suddenly decide to be gay?

If it works that way, does it work in reverse, where a gay person seeing a heterosexual character will make them turn straight?

Would these Christian groups prefer to make inclusion of LGBTQ characters and actors illegal?

Do LGBTQs have the same rights to be in movies, TV shows, and other media as heterosexuals?

The whole thing kind of reminds me of this meme....

You need to know the background of the homosexual agenda to understand this sort of thing. They have said more than once that they want to influence the minds of children so that they can produce a generation that is accepting of homosexuality. They want to destroy heterosexual marriage and replace it with an anything-goes sexual ideology. They are committed to making society as rancid and foul as possible so that they can indulge all sorts of perversions legally.

I went to a seminar that was addressed by a homosexual who was going to tell us how good and normal is homosexuality and how to teach the students such. The whole thing was a pack of lies and if you didn't know it was you would believe everything he said. It was a Catholic School and he had the audacity to say that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality and in fact, says nothing about it. Of course, I tore him to shreds and he shut up about that idea very quickly.

They hate born again evangelicals because they cannot be convinced that God approves of homosexuality. They made a decision to make homosexuality a civil matter and a case of human rights because they realized that people would not be able to stomach what they do. That is when the mantra that they are born homosexual came in because being born homosexual made their demands a civil right.

They are livid when anyone who was homosexual and testify that they are no longer one because that blows the born that way theory through the roof. They will do all they can to destroy that person's testimony and to silence them.

If something is legal then we are all governed by that law. In Hollywood, it is almost a badge of honour to be homosexual. Certainly, you are not going to be shunned. Hollywood is proud of the fact that they produce homosexuals and the more the merrier.

Young men who have had a dysfunctional upbringing are very susceptible to the claims and offerings of homosexuality. They make it seem that you will be accepted and wanted and everything will be hunky-dory. The truth is that you will be wanted and accepted as long as you keep providing the sex. Young men are in the greatest demand for sex and feature in the majority of homosexual porn.

The other important fact is that homosexuals are generally very promiscuous so they need a constant supply of young men to feed their habits. They are not content with just one or two. Some of them have hundreds of sexual encounters with others in a year. There are places that provide a sex meat market for anyone to pick up a sex partner or as many sex partners as they want.

So, in summing up, there is a definite and orchestrated push to desensitise children and teenagers to homosexual sex so that homosexuals can legitimise their depravity and provide young people for their sexual wants.

 

[Candidus]

You need to know the background of the homosexual agenda to understand this sort of thing. They have said more than once that they want to influence the minds of children so that they can produce a generation that is accepting of homosexuality. They want to destroy heterosexual marriage and replace it with an anything-goes sexual ideology. They are committed to making society as rancid and foul as possible so that they can indulge all sorts of perversions legally.

I went to a seminar that was addressed by a homosexual who was going to tell us how good and normal is homosexuality and how to teach the students such. The whole thing was a pack of lies and if you didn't know it was you would believe everything he said. It was a Catholic School and he had the audacity to say that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality and in fact, says nothing about it. Of course, I tore him to shreds and he shut up about that idea very quickly.

They hate born again evangelicals because they cannot be convinced that God approves of homosexuality. They made a decision to make homosexuality a civil matter and a case of human rights because they realized that people would not be able to stomach what they do. That is when the mantra that they are born homosexual came in because being born homosexual made their demands a civil right.

They are livid when anyone who was homosexual and testify that they are no longer one because that blows the born that way theory through the roof. They will do all they can to destroy that person's testimony and to silence them.

If something is legal then we are all governed by that law. In Hollywood, it is almost a badge of honour to be homosexual. Certainly, you are not going to be shunned. Hollywood is proud of the fact that they produce homosexuals and the more the merrier.

Young men who have had a dysfunctional upbringing are very susceptible to the claims and offerings of homosexuality. They make it seem that you will be accepted and wanted and everything will be hunky-dory. The truth is that you will be wanted and accepted as long as you keep providing the sex. Young men are in the greatest demand for sex and feature in the majority of homosexual porn.

The other important fact is that homosexuals are generally very promiscuous so they need a constant supply of young men to feed their habits. They are not content with just one or two. Some of them have hundreds of sexual encounters with others in a year. There are places that provide a sex meat market for anyone to pick up a sex partner or as many sex partners as they want.

So, in summing up, there is a definite and orchestrated push to desensitise children and teenagers to homosexual sex so that homosexuals can legitimise their depravity and provide young people for their sexual wants.

A thorough and excellent post!

 

[Candidus]

That could be with some people whose outlook is "they" are "


It doesn't matter, judging one, a few or many, judging is judging, it doesn't require an appointed position and black robe, everyone judges.

Scripture is not Against judging, it simply teaches to Judge Rightly.
For a person whose belief is in the Lord God Almighty, Rightly judging is according to Gods
Precepts, not ego.

Glory to God,
Taken

If you do not Judge Rightly, how else do you determine who are the swine that you should not cast your pearls before?

 

[Taken]

...but Arizona, where they lived, did not—until 2014, when a federal court invalidated the state’s same-sex marriage ban.

Could you identify Anywhere in the US Constitution, that gives The "Federal" Government Authority to make Judgements regarding marriage?

On Wednesday, a federal judge ordered the Social Security Administration to pay up—not just to Ely, but to every American denied survivors benefits because of same-sex marriage bans. His sweeping decision provides benefits to thousands of LGBTQ surviving spouses, tearing down one of the last remaining vestiges of federal discrimination against same-sex couples....

You quoted a Federal Law of a time frame, then said a Federal Judge ignored the Law, and made a Judgement superceeding the Law.

Twice in your post so far, you reveal Federal Judges making Rulings Outside of their Authority.

...Wednesday’s decision in Ely v. Saul is a reminder that, five years after the Supreme Court recognized same-sex couples’ constitutional right to marry, the United States has not actually achieved full marriage equality.

The USSC "recognizing" Same sex marriage, is Not a Dictatorial Ruling that Every Soverign State is thereafter Required to Authorize "Performing" Same sex marriages.

That's the "homosexual agenda".

The citizens of every Soveriegn State are willing to exercise their power to prohibit or authorize performance of Same sex marriages, So what?
Everyone has the right to exercise their power to live in whatever State "they" choose.

Glory to God,
Taken​

 

[Taken]

If you do not Judge Rightly, how else do you determine who are the swine that you should not cast your peals before?

Correct. And precisely why people Judge and are Discriminate.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[theophilus]

From what I can tell, there is no "Christian position on homosexuality", and instead views on gays are quite diverse. And that link only takes me to the TFT home page.

The entire TFT site is about homosexuality and what the Bible says about it.

There is a Christian position on homosexuality. It is found in the Bible. Because of false teachers who have distorted the gospel there are many people who believe they are Christians when they are not. They hold beliefs that are not based on the Bible.

The only data I've seen on that is terribly biased. But let's say that's true for the sake of argument. Aren't gays still free to make their own choices? Being overweight is an unhealthy lifestyle, but we don't make it illegal to be fat, nor do we ban fat people from being in movies.

We warn obese people about the bad consequences of their obesity. Christians was gay people about the dangers of their lifestyle. Our culture is so corrupt that those who warn against homosexuality are accused of hating gays even though those who warn against the dangers of obesity are not accused of hating fat people.

 

[Taken]

The United States collectively is A Republic.
Every Soverign State is a Republic...

What has been Pushed for the Last Hundred + years IS the Corrupt Design of a Democratic Society, whereby Deception, Theft, Immorality, is a Behavior to be Exalted, Prideful, Tolerated...and "Forced Acceptance."

The BIG Picture is the making of the US Another Sodom and her world wide influence to make foreign nations her sister cities Gomorrah.

Rom 1:
[31] Without...without natural affection...

[32] Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Bottom Line:

A person WHO knows God, WHO Knows God WILL give them over to a Reprobate Mind (Verse 28), WHO knows Gods Judgement to Separate Himself from Them...WILL NOT fall for or Accept "their" choices of "Unnatural affections".

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[bbyrd009]

The Constitution never even envisioned same-sex marriage. Had the Founding Fathers had any inkling that this would be a problem, they would have barred it constitutionally as a crime against humanity.

prolly not i guess, that would have been a states matter to them i think.
i know its hard to contemplate from your perspective, pEnoch, but really it was ppl like you who forced this issue, by treating homosexuals as third class citizens imo

 

[bbyrd009]

Without a divine Creator, there is no morality; it is just what we believe is right or wrong for ourselves. If that Creator defines what is right (holy) and wrong (sinful), Homosexuality, or any other “sin” is determined by that Creator, and not by our opinions. If we make morality a matter of society, then we should have listened to the Nazi defenders at the Nuremburg War Crimes Trials. Their primary argument for the defense was the German Nazi Worldview. Society (the German Government and the people) did not believe that killing Jews was wrong! It was not only legal for them to do so, but it was also encouraged! So, how can they be judged by other men when they were only following what society wanted? This obviously failed, and the Nazi’s on trial were condemned based upon a Biblical Worldview, and not the German Worldview.

Morality is essentially a theological issue; it does not change with time. Spiritual answers about Christianity can be derived from Christian history, but the final authority is the Word of God. There is one primary source for determining what is sin and what separates one from God, and that is the Bible. Can we really know for sure? The moral test of any activity, including the activity of the Church, is judged by what God says and not by any appeals to fairness and equity, and certainly not by any societal consensus.

"if you only had a heart"

 

[Justadude]

The Constitution never even envisioned same-sex marriage. Had the Founding Fathers had any inkling that this would be a problem, they would have barred it constitutionally as a crime against humanity.

You'll understand if I don't defer to your psychic abilities.

 

[Justadude]

We were told constantly that if America gave Homosexuals the right to marry, it would not hurt you, the Heterosexual. This is the camel’s nose under the tent. Now we are seeing that religious freedom has been diminished, and social and economic repercussions occur if one is vocal about their beliefs in traditional marriage.

Only in the same way that legalizing interracial marriage "hurt" people who opposed it.

 

[Justadude]

I think that is the way most millennials look at morals... Just have a vote...
So something can be right 50 years ago but wrong now or wrong in our society but right in another society... LoL that is just stupid

Our sexual morals are centered around family. These same morals have been proven to over thousands of years to be successful in Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Taoism and Buddhism. In fact there is no successful culture on earth that doesn't have family morals.

Your perverse morals on the other hand have proven time and time again to be a complete disaster. I know u kids "feel" that your being moral but that's all it is, your "feelings". But facts don't care about feelings. Facts remain facts whereas feelings change.

There is no family objective. 50 years ago they started with open adultery before the rest of the crap.
And what do we see... Broken families everywhere, a divorce rate of 50%. Kids being raised by single mothers to grow to become criminals and junkies.

This might "feel" revolutionary but its not, this kind of sexual deviation has happened plenty of times before, and each time it contributed to the collapse of a society. The Minoans became gay and collapsed, the Greeks became gay and collapsed, the Romans became gay and collapsed. And now those of us who know history can see that our society is collapsing...

So while u argue for sexual deviations that u know nothing about the same sexual perversion is helping to bring down the west.

Family orientated sexual morals = Over 7,000 years of success across multiple cultures world wide

Deviated sexual morals = Proven to be unsuccessful every time across multiple cultures world wide

Its really that simple. Without God one must look back to know how to look forward.
It's impossible to know what is universally right by looking at your own feelings.
Morality isn't an election. And even it was, most of the people in the world disagree with deviant sexual acts
Only in the west where the education system has been taken over by trannies and dykes do we see this brainwashed generation regurgitating such nonsense.

So which sexual deviation will be forced into our society next. Will it be pedophilia, will it be necrophilia. I personally think it will be zoophilia. Or the way things are going, the west could collapse very soon as effeminate leaders destroy our culture through fear of getting a flu. Coronaphobia

Past societies that became gay became effeminate. Then when they were attacked by more manly forces like the barbarians they were too weak and effeminate to win anything on the battle field. Men became more concerned with wearing dresses than being masculine.
Same thing we see now. Men are more like women. Masculinity is considered toxic. And that is why we are collapsing. Effeminate men, aka soyboys.

@Justadude

So that is homosexuality debunked from a historical and moral perspective.
I can debunk it from a logical, natural and scientific perspective as well if u like

My first thought after seeing all that was to wonder why the mere inclusion of gay characters in a short film triggered this level of response from you, especially after you'd previously agreed that that sort of thing should remain legal. You might want to engage in some self-reflection and think on it a bit.

Oh, and I'd be careful about citing the Bible as a source of "objective morals", unless you want to argue that genocide, taking young girls as the spoils of war, having rape victims marry rapists, etc. are all "objectively moral".