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Putting on Christ and being clothed with Christ and putting on His breastplate of righteousness, are all outward garments. We put on Christ by doing His righteousness and walking as He walked. In this manner of holy living, we can surely guard our hearts and inward parts from the fiery darts of the devil.

If we are not doing the will of God outwardly, then we are not believing nor doing His will inwardly, and our soul and spirit is not defended against the lust and corruption and shame of the world.

Commit thy works unto the LORD, and thy thoughts shall be established.


The Bible only teaches having faith with works, and not inwardly only. By doing the faith of Jesus outwardly, we can be more sure of keeping hearts are established in Christ, and our minds remain sound in His faith.
 

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Putting on Christ and being clothed with Christ and putting on His breastplate of righteousness, are all outward garments. We put on Christ by doing His righteousness and walking as He walked. In this manner of holy living, we can surely guard our hearts and inward parts from the fiery darts of the devil.

If we are not doing the will of God outwardly, then we are not believing nor doing His will inwardly, and our soul and spirit is not defended against the lust and corruption and shame of the world.

Commit thy works unto the LORD, and thy thoughts shall be established.

The Bible only teaches having faith with works, and not inwardly only. By doing the faith of Jesus outwardly, we can be more sure of keeping hearts are established in Christ, and our minds remain sound in His faith.
We put on Christ by being baptized into Christ

Gal 3:27

“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”
 

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We put on Christ by being baptized into Christ

Gal 3:27

“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”
Since it's so simple, we wonder why there are Christians that reject living like Jesus to continue sinning, and some even say it's impossible to.
 
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We put on Christ by being baptized into Christ

Gal 3:27

“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”
Your good quote of Scripture also shows we have our part in being baptized into Christ by His Spirit.

Once we begin putting on Christ and His righteousness, the Spirit baptizes us as members of His body.

Like certain private clubs requiring a tie. The Maitre D' stands at the door with tie in hand, and if we put it on obediently, he ushers us into the private club for members only. So it is with putting on Christ and His righteous breastplate at Christ's kingdom door of repentance and faith toward God, which by the Spirit is unto baptism into the body of Christ and salvation from the sins of the world outside.

Those trying to sneak in another way (John 10), or bull their way through by the power of their own faith alone, get tossed out in the end.

And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

For many are called, but few are chosen.


The Christian gospel of saving ourselves by our own faith alone, without any need of repentance unto salvation, are not preaching the Bible gospel of Jesus Christ.

The fact is, that we can all come up with our own doctrine for being saved and baptized into any Christian and spiritual body we wish in this life. But only the gospel baptism of the Spirit, that is only by putting on Christ and His righteousness goes beyond the grave unto inheriting eternal salvation.
 

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We put on Christ by being baptized into Christ

Gal 3:27

“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”
So how does one "put on" Christ in baptism? Is it because one becomes a "child of God" through water baptism? NO. (See Galatians 3:26 and also John 1:12 on how one becomes a child of God -- no mention of baptism) "Let us therefore cast off the works of darkness and let us put on the armor of light...put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfill the lusts thereof." (Romans 13:12,14) This exhortation is written to Christians (those already saved). Evidently then, baptism is not the only way to "put on" Christ.

"Put off," wrote Paul, "the old man," and "put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness" (Ephesians 4:22,24); And "put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." (Ephesians 6:11) The allusion is putting off old clothes and putting on new ones, as to enclose oneself in armor, etc. When a soldier puts on armor, he is revealing himself to be a soldier. One does not put on a uniform in order to become a soldier. Simply putting on a soldier's uniform does not make one become a soldier. Once one is made a soldier one is then able to put on and wear the uniform that distinguishes or marks them as a soldier.
 
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Since it's so simple, we wonder why there are Christians that reject living like Jesus to continue sinning, and some even say it's impossible to.
Do you claim to live a sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolute perfect life 100% of the time, exactly as Jesus Christ lived?
 
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Putting on Christ and being clothed with Christ and putting on His breastplate of righteousness, are all outward garments. We put on Christ by doing His righteousness and walking as He walked. In this manner of holy living, we can surely guard our hearts and inward parts from the fiery darts of the devil.

If we are not doing the will of God outwardly, then we are not believing nor doing His will inwardly, and our soul and spirit is not defended against the lust and corruption and shame of the world.

Commit thy works unto the LORD, and thy thoughts shall be established.

The Bible only teaches having faith with works, and not inwardly only. By doing the faith of Jesus outwardly, we can be more sure of keeping hearts are established in Christ, and our minds remain sound in His faith.
I don't believe that is true. Christ was unique and special. He was the sacrificial lamb of God and had to be without blemish. It is unrealistic to believe that Christians don't sin daily. There is a real need to promote daily repentance and to follow the promptings of the Holy Spirit.
 

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I don't believe that is true. Christ was unique and special. He was the sacrificial lamb of God and had to be without blemish. It is unrealistic to believe that Christians don't sin daily. There is a real need to promote daily repentance and to follow the promptings of the Holy Spirit.
Those who believe they live a sinless, perfect life 100% of the time (exactly as Christ lived) are suffering from a terminal case of self righteousness. (1 John 1:8-10)
 

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Do you claim to live a sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolute perfect life 100% of the time, exactly as Jesus Christ lived?

Yes indeed! those who think that they can actually live out as righteous of a life that Jesus did are incredibly deceived!! ... they have absolutely no true understanding of their desperate need for grace.
 

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So how does one "put on" Christ in baptism? Is it because one becomes a "child of God" through water baptism? NO. (See Galatians 3:26 and also John 1:12 on how one becomes a child of God -- no mention of baptism) "Let us therefore cast off the works of darkness and let us put on the armor of light...put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfill the lusts thereof." (Romans 13:12,14) This exhortation is written to Christians (those already saved). Evidently then, baptism is not the only way to "put on" Christ.

"Put off," wrote Paul, "the old man," and "put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness" (Ephesians 4:22,24); And "put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." (Ephesians 6:11) The allusion is putting off old clothes and putting on new ones, as to enclose oneself in armor, etc. When a soldier puts on armor, he is revealing himself to be a soldier. One does not put on a uniform in order to become a soldier. Simply putting on a soldier's uniform does not make one become a soldier. Once one is made a soldier one is then able to put on and wear the uniform that distinguishes or marks them as a soldier.
Very true.
There is a putting off & a putting on, few are willing to be regenerated into a new man by putting off the old man.

Ephesians 4:22-24 KJV
that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; and be renewed in the spirit of your mind; and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Jesus said this,
Mark 2: 21-
No man also seweth a piece of new cloth on an old garment: else the new piece that filled it up taketh away from the old, and the rent is made worse.

To many this day want to wear the shiny armour of righteousness without laying down their old self at the cross, taking up their own cross and following Jesus!
 

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Very true.
There is a putting off & a putting on, few are willing to be regenerated into a new man by putting off the old man.

Ephesians 4:22-24 KJV
that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; and be renewed in the spirit of your mind; and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Jesus said this,
Mark 2: 21-
No man also seweth a piece of new cloth on an old garment: else the new piece that filled it up taketh away from the old, and the rent is made worse.

To many this day want to wear the shiny armour of righteousness without laying down their old self at the cross, taking up their own cross and following Jesus!
I'll cite the scripture once again below. It can't get any clearer or simpler than the scripture itself; even a moron should be able to read and understand it. But instead, those who dont believe or want to believe what it says, go to great lengths to try to explain away the scripture, ultimately claiming it really doesn't mean what it says. The question previous posed by another individual after I posted this passage is quite dumb. "So, how does one put on Christ in baptism" was the dumb question. The answer is, it's by baptism! You put on Christ by baptism! That's all you need to know, and that's the simplicity of it. You wanna put on Christ? BE BAPTIZED! Nothing more, nothing less.

Gal 3:27

“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”
 

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I'll cite the scripture once again below. It can't get any clearer or simpler than the scripture itself; even a moron should be able to read and understand it. But instead, those who dont believe or want to believe what it says, go to great lengths to try to explain away the scripture, ultimately claiming it really doesn't mean what it says. The question previous posed by another individual after I posted this passage is quite dumb. "So, how does one put on Christ in baptism" was the dumb question. The answer is, it's by baptism! You put on Christ by baptism! That's all you need to know, and that's the simplicity of it. You wanna put on Christ? BE BAPTIZED! Nothing more, nothing less.

Gal 3:27

“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”

You said :

"even a moron should be able to read and understand it" ... &

"So, how does one put on Christ in baptism" was the dumb question."

So I take it that you do not consider yourself among the "morons" and "dummies"?? And if so, to be clear, here's a question I have for you ... Do you believe that you could not possibly receive eternal life apart from being water baptized?
 
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Your good quote of Scripture also shows we have our part in being baptized into Christ by His Spirit.

Once we begin putting on Christ and His righteousness, the Spirit baptizes us as members of His body.

Like certain private clubs requiring a tie. The Maitre D' stands at the door with tie in hand, and if we put it on obediently, he ushers us into the private club for members only. So it is with putting on Christ and His righteous breastplate at Christ's kingdom door of repentance and faith toward God, which by the Spirit is unto baptism into the body of Christ and salvation from the sins of the world outside.

Those trying to sneak in another way (John 10), or bull their way through by the power of their own faith alone, get tossed out in the end.

And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

For many are called, but few are chosen.


The Christian gospel of saving ourselves by our own faith alone, without any need of repentance unto salvation, are not preaching the Bible gospel of Jesus Christ.

The fact is, that we can all come up with our own doctrine for being saved and baptized into any Christian and spiritual body we wish in this life. But only the gospel baptism of the Spirit, that is only by putting on Christ and His righteousness goes beyond the grave unto inheriting eternal salvation.

You stated, "Once we begin putting on Christ and His righteousness, the Spirit baptizes us as members of His body."

Wow! ... this is one of the clearest declarations and examples that you will ever see as it pertains to what it means to "work for your salvation". According to you, we must first begin to put on Christ and His righteousness prior to becoming members of His body. Whatever happened to trusting in the grace of God demonstrated by the shedding of Christ's blood for the forgiveness of our sins to become partakers in the body of Christ???

Do you really suppose that we should just skip over that foundational truth that the entire Christian faith is based upon and immediately jump into the sanctifying process that the Holy Spirit brings about? You see, it's simply not possible to begin the transformational process that the the Holy Spirit accomplishes ... without the Holy Spirit, that is, without first being indwelt by the Holy Spirit!
 
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You said :

"even a moron should be able to read and understand it" ... &

"So, how does one put on Christ in baptism" was the dumb question."

So I take it that you do not consider yourself among the "morons" and "dummies"?? And if so, to be clear, here's a question I have for you ... Do you believe that you could not possibly receive eternal life apart from being water baptized?
Correct: I do not. I read the words, understand them in their simplicity, and let them lead me to the truth rather then having a predetermined bias regarding a subject such as baptism and itsnecessity, and then trying to do my best to prove the simple scripture to mean something other than what it clearly says.

And yes, without a doubt, you cannot be saved prior to being baptized, immersed in water. Why? Because that's what the scriptures say. They weren't meant for rocket scientists to understand, but rather the simplest of people such as existed in biblical times.
 

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So how does one "put on" Christ in baptism? Is it because one becomes a "child of God" through water baptism? NO.
The first step to sidestep something, is to talk about something else.

(See Galatians 3:26 and also John 1:12 on how one becomes a child of God -- no mention of baptism)
Only repentance. The only one mentioning baptism by water is you.

"Let us therefore cast off the works of darkness and let us put on the armor of light...put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfill the lusts thereof." (Romans 13:12,14) This exhortation is written to Christians (those already saved).
To Christians not yet saved, by not yet repenting of sinning from works of darkness, and not yet putting on Christ walking in the light.

Believers bypassing repenting of sinning, are hearers only that have yet to obey the first principle of the doctrine of Christ.

They are not putting on the outward righteousness of Christ by doing it, but only talking about it through their faith alone.


"Put off," wrote Paul, "the old man," and "put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness" (Ephesians 4:22,24); And "put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." (Ephesians 6:11)
Exactly, we first repent of sinning, and put on Christ by doing His righteousness. It's the outward righteousness we now do through Christ, rather than our own righteousness we did before without Christ.


When a soldier puts on armor, he is revealing himself to be a soldier. One does not put on a uniform in order to become a soldier.
Your human reasoning is not the doctrine of Christ. No soldier of Christ is ever without His necessary armor for doing His righteousness.

The word game of being vs becoming, is what Paul calls vain striving about words. There is no being a son of God without first becoming a son of God.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Your game with words, is simply to teach first being righteous by faith alone, without becoming righteous like Jesus, by doing His righteousness.


Simply putting on a soldier's uniform does not make one become a soldier. Once one is made a soldier one is then able to put on and wear the uniform that distinguishes or marks them as a soldier.
In Christ, there is no being a soldier of His without becoming one by repenting of sinning and putting on His righteous armor to say repented.

All you are attempting here by word games, is to slip in already being a solder by faith alone, before the necessary duty of becoming a soldier putting on Christ's outward righteousness by doing it.

No man is clothed in white with Christ inwardly, while also clothed in darkness with the devil outwardly.

Men can be soldiers off duty without their uniform on. Not soldiers of Jesus Christ, where there is no unclothed naked off duty sinning that you preach.

If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

Being clothed and and becoming clothed is the same thing in doing the righteousness of God. No son of God is ever found naked as sinners doing unrighteousness.

In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever is doing unrighteousness is not of God.
 
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Do you claim to live a sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolute perfect life 100% of the time, exactly as Jesus Christ lived?
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

You mean am I a doer of Jesus word, and obey His gospel?

Yes. Absolutely, 100% of the time today I have and am still walking with Jesus hand in hand as He walked. I have not had any time this day sinning as you with the devil.

It's promised to any man that repents of sinning, and believes from the heart with Jesus' faith to do His righteousness, even as He is righteous.

No apologies from me. Since this offends you, it's your unrepentance and your sinning gospel that's the problem, not me and my gospel.

I already know your answer. You not only claim to, but you do live a sinful, with fault and defect, flawed, absolutely imperfect life 100% of the time, exactly not as Jesus Christ lived.

I believe your own testimony, that you do obey your own gospel of sinning before, during, and after your unclean conversion to Christian religion.
 

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I don't believe that is true. Christ was unique and special.
No problem. You have no fault with what is taught. You just don't believe it. Which is not uncommon among some Christians, that do not repent and believe from the heart unto the righteousness of Christ.

Like you, they also idolize the man Jesus, and make His life just an ideal to worship, but never can do.

I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

I believe to do the gospel that Paul preached, where we can repent of sinning, and be made all new and of God. And so we can now do all things both small and large through Christ.


He was the sacrificial lamb of God and had to be without blemish.
True, and them with the Lamb are likewise without blemish nor spot like Him, inwardly and outwardly.

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.


It is unrealistic to believe that Christians don't sin daily.
Of course you don't. Which is perfectly fine for you, until you start judging everyone else to be like you.

You are not an example for me, and certainly not the example for all Christians to follow.

And it's true, that it is entirely unrealistic for unrepented sinners such as yourself to not sin daily. It's the same for all unrepented men, whether Christian, Jew, or Buddhist, etc...

That's why we need to repent of sinning, and receive the spotless Lamb and Christ of God, to be born as He, and walk as He.

As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:

The Christ idol preached, whose life is only an unlived ideal, is not from the good news gospel of the Bible.

There is a real need to promote daily repentance and to follow the promptings of the Holy Spirit.
Of course there is among unrepented sinning Christians. You promote a Christian gospel and religion of only seeking to sin less, but not to cease sinning like Jesus.

By your own unrepentance and unbelief, you make it impossible for God to make you newborn pure and blameless in life, even as the babe and child Jesus.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

You preach still being born of your own will, so that you continue sinning before, during, and after your conversion to Christian religion.

I'm sure you have a great Christianity for yourself, but it's just not the pure religion of Jesus Christ in the Bible.
 

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But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

You mean am I a doer of Jesus word, and obey His gospel?

Yes. Absolutely, 100% of the time today I have and am still walking with Jesus hand in hand as He walked. I have not had any time this day sinning as you with the devil.

It's promised to any man that repents of sinning, and believes from the heart with Jesus' faith to do His righteousness, even as He is righteous.

No apologies from me. Since this offends you, it's your unrepentance and your sinning gospel that's the problem, not me and my gospel.

I already know your answer. You not only claim to, but you do live a sinful, with fault and defect, flawed, absolutely imperfect life 100% of the time, exactly not as Jesus Christ lived.

I believe your own testimony, that you do obey your own gospel of sinning before, during, and after your unclean conversion to Christian religion.
Your true colors are obvious (1 John 1:8-10) and I'm not interested in your straw man arguments or your eisegesis.
 

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Do you claim to live a sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolute perfect life 100% of the time, exactly as Jesus Christ lived?
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