Rapture (Or whatever you want to call it)... Be ready for it!

[rockytopva]

Seven churches!

1. Ephesus – Apostolic – Leaving the first love… “All they which are in Asia be turned away from me…” – II Timothy 1:15
2. Smyrna – Martyrs – Persecutions ten days… Foxes Book of Martyrs describes ten Roman persecutions.
3. Pergamos – Orthodox – A pyrgos is a fortified structure – Needed for the dark ages.
4. Thyatira – Catholic – The Spirit of Jezebel is to persecute, control, and to dominate. This spirit can invade any church!
5. Sardis – Protestant – A sardius is a gem, elegant yet hard and rigid. Doctrine in the head, little in the heart.
6. Philadelphia – Methodist – To obtain sanctification was to do so with love.
7. Laodicea – Charismatic – Rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing?

Four horseman - Four earthy regimes to lead earth

1. White - Democracy
2. Red - Communism
3. Black - Present Day
4. Pale - The Anti-Christ

Four Reichs to lead Europe

1. First Reich - Constantine
2. Second Reich - Napoleon
3. Third Reich - Adolph Hitler
4. Fourth Reich - The Anti-Christ

In which the Anti-Christ's reign will last 3.5 years (Rev 11:2) in which, as he will set up a financial database that will keep the worlds riches in account, no man which had not his mark will buy or sell (Rev 13:7).

So, as this period is unsurvivable therefore we must believe that Christ's coming will happen in every day times, as the scripture says...

... It will be a thief in the night
... Unexpected, as in the destruction of Sodom
... Unexpected, as in the destruction of Noah's world.
... Therefore Christ reiterates us to be ready for it.

After the tribulation we will return to this earth to reign with Christ a thousand years...

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.- Revelation 20:40

After the thousand year reign Lucifer will be let out of the bottomless pit to lead one last rebellion. The heaven, the entire universe, and earth will burn with fervent heat, and God will create a new heaven and a new earth.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

So, as this period is unsurvivable therefore we must believe that Christ's coming will happen in every day times, as the scripture says...

... It will be a thief in the night
... Unexpected, as in the destruction of Sodom
... Unexpected, as in the destruction of Noah's world.
... Therefore Christ reiterates us to be ready for it.

The day of the lord only comes as a thief in the night to the wicked.

Do you have a Plan B in place in case there is no pretrib rapture?

 

[rockytopva]

The day of the lord only comes as a thief in the night to the wicked.

Do you have a Plan B in place in case there is no pretrib rapture?

What hurt does it do to live ones life expecting Jesus to come back at any time?

Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. - Matthew 24:44

 

[Trumpeter]

Tts 2:13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

2Ti 4:8 Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing.

 

[Prough91]

Where in the Bible does it say Four Reichs will lead Europe?

 

[rockytopva]

Where in the Bible does it say Four Reichs will lead Europe?

Four is the number of the earth. In the book of Daniel these represent regimes that will arise out of the earth...

These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth. - Daniel 7:17

Adolph Hitler had thought that his third Reich would last a thousand years... But he did not know his bible prophecy. Had he known that three is the number of perfect harmony, and not the number of the earth, he would have understood.

 

[Questor]

Four is the number of the earth. In the book of Daniel these represent regimes that will arise out of the earth...

These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth. - Daniel 7:17

Adolph Hitler had thought that his third Reich would last a thousand years... But he did not know his bible prophecy. Had he known that three is the number of perfect harmony, and not the number of the earth, he would have understood.

Sorry, the four kings are not related to the symbology of numbers, otherwise, the third kingdom would have been Yah'shua's kingdom, not Greece. The 'Third' Reich was Hitler's naming of his power structure/governmental placement after the two preceding German Reichs, that is all.

Daniel
BABYLON
2:37 Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the Elohim of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
2:38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.
MEDIA/PERSIA
2:39 And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee,
GREECE
and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
ROME
2:40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
2:41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
2:42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
YAH'SHUA'S KINGDOM
2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the Elohim of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.


Daniel
7:2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
BABYLON
7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
MEDIA/PERSIA
7:5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
GREECE
7:6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
ROME
7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great thing.
7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
7:10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.
YAH'SHUA'S KINDOM
7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.


The Scriptures are only interpreted by Scripture, and Scripture is given in word-picture symbols. Numerology in Scripture, as shown in the two above interlocking prophetic scriptures, would make the third kingdom of Brass, and we are in Iron ( the Fourth Kingdom). The fifth word-picture is Yahshua's kingdom, the Rock that comes out of heaven, and smashes the Iron Kingdom.

I do not see any perfection in the third kingdom, nor any harmony, as it is Greece we are talking about...the real third kingdom in the precession of kingdoms in the prophecies. Although I do see the fifth kingdom as being that of grace, being Yah'shua's kingdom, yet even so, numerology does not fit the actual precession of kingdoms, and must be set aside for the actual word-picture symbology that is already definative.

To get at all of the meanings of the word-picture symbology in the above two interlocked scriptures, you need to get at the Biblical use of symbols to understand what is being said here, and that is a long study.

You cannot simply wrap up deeply descriptive word-pictures in the relative simplicity of Numerology, while confusing The name of Hitler's government with one of the five kingdoms in Daniel's kingdom prophecy, nor the prophecy of the beasts (Power Structure/Goverments) which amplify and to an extent interpret the interlocked scripture of the kingdoms. You will confuse people inadvertantly.

Q

 

[rockytopva]

History will bare out that there were four who ruled the continent of Europe...

1. Constantine
2. Napoleon
3. Hitler
4. Anti-Christ

The rule of Napoleon and Hitler were ever so brief (the Anti-Christ will only rule 3.5 years), but they did rule it.

 

[Questor]

History will bare out that there were four who ruled the continent of Europe...

1. Constantine
2. Napoleon
3. Hitler
4. Anti-Christ

The rule of Napoleon and Hitler were ever so brief (the Anti-Christ will only rule 3.5 years), but they did rule it.

I am very perplexed as to why you are concerned with the rulers of Europe, when the kingdoms in Prophecy are World Empires.

Neither Napoleon nor Hitler conquered or were given power over all the world. Certainly they managed to optain power over a large area for a short time, but that is all.

You are not speaking about what the Scriptures speak of in prophecy. You do not even speak of the subject of the title in this thread, which appears to concern the time that all Believers, quick or dead, meet Yah'shua in the air at the time of the Parousia, to forever be with Him.

What is it that you wish to say?

Q

 

[Rex]

Napoleon never conquered Europe or the old Roman empire. Same with Hitler.
England was not conquered by ether Napoleon or Hitler

Rocky has his E=MC/2 mixed up a bit. Or M/C2 what ever he calls it.
http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/15200-the-power-of-i-am-and-ec2-with-joel-osteen/

 

[rockytopva]

Did someone mention motivation? That's what we will talk about then... Is motivation.... Speaking of which, my web site, http://www.youtube.com/rockytopva, now has over 1,000,000 views!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiy1Zp_AUXA

 

[rockytopva]

I believe with all the unrest in Europe we are about to see the unveiling of the fourth horseman to lead the fourth Reich into the 3.5 year reign.

That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; - 2 Thessalonians 2:2-3

When you see the son of perdition, the fourth horseman, leader of the fourth Reich, life up your heads, for your redemption draweth nigh!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXO8Y0vvWT0

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Napoleon never conquered Europe or the old Roman empire. Same with Hitler.
England was not conquered by ether Napoleon or Hitler

Rocky has his E=MC/2 mixed up a bit. Or M/C2 what ever he calls it.
http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/15200-the-power-of-i-am-and-ec2-with-joel-osteen/

Anybody know what happened to Rex. I miss him.

 

[7angels]

it just occurred to me i know the old testament is a type and shadow of the new testament. if the old testament is a type and shadow of the new testament and the new testament explains the old testament then there has to be something in the old testament to show where paul stated in the new testament what the rapture was and paul stated that if you cannot find it in the Word then do not believe it. so where in the old testament is the a type and shadow of the rapture? i can think of 2 of them right off but does anyone else know where there is a type and shadow of the rapture in the old testament?

God bless

 

[rockytopva]

it just occurred to me i know the old testament is a type and shadow of the new testament. if the old testament is a type and shadow of the new testament and the new testament explains the old testament then there has to be something in the old testament to show where paul stated in the new testament what the rapture was and paul stated that if you cannot find it in the Word then do not believe it. so where in the old testament is the a type and shadow of the rapture? i can think of 2 of them right off but does anyone else know where there is a type and shadow of the rapture in the old testament?

God bless

1. Enoch, the seventh, was taken away in normal times. So the Laodicean, the last church, will be taken away in normal times.
***By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. - Hebrews 11:5
2. Noah was taken away in normal times by the great flood.
*** But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. - Matthew 24:37
***For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, - Matthew 24:38
***And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. -- Matthew 24:39
3. Sodom was destroyed in normal times.

*** Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; - Luke 17:28
*** But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.- Luke 17:29
*** Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.- Luke 17:30

 

[Trumpeter]

1. Enoch, the seventh, was taken away in normal times. So the Laodicean, the last church, will be taken away in normal times.

Greetings Rocky,
The church with the promise to be taken away is the church of Philadelphia.

Rev 3:10 "Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

"from" is from the Greek "ek" which means "out of".

The church of Laodiceans doesn't fair so well.
The Lord has nothing good to say about them!

Nobody in this church is going anywhere unless they repent.

 

[KevinMiller]

The day of the lord only comes as a thief in the night to the wicked.

Do you have a Plan B in place in case there is no pretrib rapture?

Many do not perceive living in tribulation as an important issue and have no clue; perhaps this is because they don’t know what real tribulation will be like, or perhaps they simply believe the escapism. We are about faith not fear, suggesting for people to be prepared, not scared.


Matthew 24:36-39
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.