Rapture ... soon?

[HealthyShape]

The Big Question is, have you been nudged by the Holy Spirit to wake up, sensing the signs, alarming us to the season and time of our Lord's return?

No. At all. This is all nonsense.

I am.

Yes, it is interesting that you are so easily swayed by internet and baseless speculations. And why do you mistake it for the work of the Holy Spirit? Cannot you distinguish between your feelings and the Holy Spirit?

Are You Ready?

We can die today. Be ready for that. No specialized "being ready for a rapture" is needed.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

So, you are telling us "Judas was a devil"? Now what do you do with:

1) Michael (Christ) was God? As per: The LORD Jesus Christ Is Almighty God!
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2) Peter is Satan? As per:

"he (Michael/Christ/God) turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan:"​

(Matthew 16:23 AV)​

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Just wondering what's next?

I did not know that SDAs believed that Jesus is Michael - thought only the JWs believed that. That TribulationSigns actually uses KJV suggests he is not a JW but explains his different views.

 

[WPM]

If our spirit did not give the breath of life to our mortal flesh there would be no human living soul upon the earth. Our life (living soul) cannot be separated from our spirit and continue to be alive. But our spirit, by the power of the Holy Spirit in us shall leave our mortal flesh and ascend to the Father in heaven ALIVE (living soul), because in life before we died our spirit was born again and can NEVER die. The soul, which speaks of life of the whole, or complete person, ceases to be alive when our mortal flesh dies in unbelief. Because to be a living soul upon this earth is to have the breath of life (spirit) giving life to our body of flesh. To be a living soul in heaven is to be a spiritual body without human form, and it is only man who has been born again that shall continue to be alive after our mortal body breathes its last.

Man has the ability to destroy one another by taking away the breath of life from our mortal body. But only God is able to destroy both body and soul in the burning flames. That's why Christ says that we who live and believe in Him need not fear dying because death is not the end for us, for in heaven we shall continue to be the spiritual body of Christ alive (living souls) there. As are the angels of God, the spirit image of Christ.

Matthew 6:25 (KJV) Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life [living soul], what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life [living soul] more than meat, and the body than raiment?

Matthew 10:28 (KJV) And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: [take our life] but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

1 Corinthians 15:35 (KJV) But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

1 Corinthians 15:44-49 (KJV) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

The spiritual body of believers in heaven with life (living souls) will be with the Lord in heaven until the last trump sounds and our mortal flesh is resurrected and made alive again through the living spirit/soul that returns with Christ. Then we shall once again be complete man with body + spirit complete living souls, to live with Christ forever on the new earth.

1 Corinthians 15:50-53 (KJV) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

So, what died within man when Adam and Eve sinned?

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Cannot you distinguish between your feelings and the Holy Spirit?

The Spirit wars against the flesh. Yes, we get mixed signals and to be honest, I am led by the Spirit but fail to do that perfectly. Do you perfectly abide and follow the Lord?

We can die today. Be ready for that. No specialized "being ready for a rapture" is needed.

Of course death awaits us all ... and may just come sooner than the Rapture. That you do not sense His soon return may just mean you aren't ready and it may be that when He does come soon, you will be left behind? Not to say you will lose your salvation, just that some must go through the fire to be refined more. Faith is tested and doubts about His Second Coming may suggest a weak faith. Out of all the seven churches only the faithful Church ( Philadelphia) was not subject to wrath. The Lord promised to keep them from the hour of trial. ???

 

[WPM]

4:04 AM
Thursday, October 9, 2025 (GMT+13)
Time in Samoa

Therefore Joshua's fallback to the Old Julian Calendar date for his prediction has expired. We can now convict him of a false prophecy ... or consider that he just misinterpreted the message that the Lord gave him. Is that possible ... with someone who is supposed be led by the Holy Spirit ... to spread a false alarm?
I don't think so. Maybe we need to look at this another way?

Another explanation has risen about Joshua's prediction. Maybe those dates Jesus gave for Rosh Hashanah, the Feast of Trumpets, were an announcement that Jesus is coming soon, not on those particular days, but in weeks ...???

In a Galilean Wedding, the Groom, Bride and guests knew the approximate month and week of the proposed ceremony but not the day or hour. A year or two ( in our case 2,000 year) engagement period was alloted for the Groom to prepare a home for His bride and of course the bride needed to also prepare herself and then wait for the announcement of the shofar. Wine was shared at the time of His proposal to seal their committment to be married.
Close to the week set, they all had to be ready, dressed, oil in their lamps, etc. The Father would then say to the Son _ at His chosen day and hour_ "Go get your Bride". His son would go out in the streets and head towards His Bride's home and blow the shofar. All who were invited, heard the sound, got up abruptly and came out and followed him. He would arrive at His betrothed home, she would come out and would be "lifted up on a seat and carried away" to the Father's house. All the guests would follow in and the doors were shut. No late comers were allowed. The wedding ceremony would begin and the reception/ feast would last one week.
So, apparently the Father hasn't told Jesus to go get your Bride yet ... but we are anticipating that sound of the trumpet ( which is a heavenly blast blown by an angle and heard worldwide).
So maybe it was necessary to fulfill scripture, an announcement of his coming soon, not the exact day. The Jews in Jerusalem seem to be sensing a spiritual calling, having dreams and visions, seeing signs.
Blow the trumpet in Zion;
sound the alarm on my holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble,
for the day of the Lord is coming, it is near, Joel 2:1

What could be the delay?
In Revelation 12, there is a war in heaven. And on earth what's going in Israel is key, since in this symbolic picture, the woman is interpreted as Israel.
Remember an angel being delayed to answer Daniel's 21 days of fasting and prayer? Michael came to his assistance to battle with the Principality ( demon) of Persia. There are spiritual wars going on that we are unaware of. Is it a coincidence that Iran is and has been an axis of evil and behind the terrorism suffered by Israel and the world?

The Big Question is, have you been nudged by the Holy Spirit to wake up, sensing the signs, alarming us to the season and time of our Lord's return? I am.

Are You Ready?

Here we go! More nonsense. Just as I predicated. No humility. No integrity. No honesty. No repentance. No apologies. Just move the goal posts and keep perpetrating more false prophecies. More justifying of a false prophet. Typical Pretrib. Move the goal-posts every time your error is exposed as a lie. This is typical Cult behavior. Read the JWs and Mormons. Study all the false prophets in history. How are you and Joshua any different?

You have zero credibility now. Why would anyone listen you and those who are playing these religious games?

 

[rwb]

So, what died within man when Adam and Eve sinned?

Our first parents unlike all their descendants lost the breath of life that God Himself (Spirit) breathed into them at creation. That breath of life I believe, is the Holy Spirit. The breath of life from the Spirit, from the moment they sinned, became carnal, natural, earthy, destined to grow old and die. They could not have died spiritually because without the breath of life, giving physical life to the body there is no living soul.

God formed the man of dust (body) and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit) and man became a living soul (complete man).

The breath that came from the nostrils of God imputed into man divine inspiration, intellect in soul and spirit through which man could know God and commune with Him. Just as man was originally created in the likeness and image of God, so too when the spirit in man sinned, his new spirit giving him physical life became the image and likeness of the evil they chose to listen to. (Ye are of your father the devil) Evil that brought sin and death through sin into creation.

Genesis 2:7 (KJV) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed in to his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Genesis 1:26-27 (KJV) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 5:3 (KJV) And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

It is for this cause that in order for man to again be made in the likeness and image through Christ, we must be born again. And that through the Spirit of Christ once again being within man, guiding and teaching him, and giving assurance of eternal life for all who believe.

Ephesians 2:10 (KJV) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Ephesians 4:24 (KJV) And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

I left part out. Though the breath of God (Holy Spirit) was in man, God never demanded obedience from man. God gave them a command and giving them autonomy allowed man to choose to obey God or become servants of evil.

 

[Davidpt]

4:04 AM
Thursday, October 9, 2025 (GMT+13)
Time in Samoa

Therefore Joshua's fallback to the Old Julian Calendar date for his prediction has expired. We can now convict him of a false prophecy ... or consider that he just misinterpreted the message that the Lord gave him. Is that possible ... with someone who is supposed be led by the Holy Spirit ... to spread a false alarm?
I don't think so. Maybe we need to look at this another way?

Another explanation has risen about Joshua's prediction. Maybe those dates Jesus gave for Rosh Hashanah, the Feast of Trumpets, were an announcement that Jesus is coming soon, not on those particular days, but in weeks ...???

In a Galilean Wedding, the Groom, Bride and guests knew the approximate month and week of the proposed ceremony but not the day or hour. A year or two ( in our case 2,000 year) engagement period was alloted for the Groom to prepare a home for His bride and of course the bride needed to also prepare herself and then wait for the announcement of the shofar. Wine was shared at the time of His proposal to seal their committment to be married.
Close to the week set, they all had to be ready, dressed, oil in their lamps, etc. The Father would then say to the Son _ at His chosen day and hour_ "Go get your Bride". His son would go out in the streets and head towards His Bride's home and blow the shofar. All who were invited, heard the sound, got up abruptly and came out and followed him. He would arrive at His betrothed home, she would come out and would be "lifted up on a seat and carried away" to the Father's house. All the guests would follow in and the doors were shut. No late comers were allowed. The wedding ceremony would begin and the reception/ feast would last one week.
So, apparently the Father hasn't told Jesus to go get your Bride yet ... but we are anticipating that sound of the trumpet ( which is a heavenly blast blown by an angle and heard worldwide).
So maybe it was necessary to fulfill scripture, an announcement of his coming soon, not the exact day. The Jews in Jerusalem seem to be sensing a spiritual calling, having dreams and visions, seeing signs.
Blow the trumpet in Zion;
sound the alarm on my holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble,
for the day of the Lord is coming, it is near, Joel 2:1

What could be the delay?
In Revelation 12, there is a war in heaven. And on earth what's going in Israel is key, since in this symbolic picture, the woman is interpreted as Israel.
Remember an angel being delayed to answer Daniel's 21 days of fasting and prayer? Michael came to his assistance to battle with the Principality ( demon) of Persia. There are spiritual wars going on that we are unaware of. Is it a coincidence that Iran is and has been an axis of evil and behind the terrorism suffered by Israel and the world?

The Big Question is, have you been nudged by the Holy Spirit to wake up, sensing the signs, alarming us to the season and time of our Lord's return? I am.

Are You Ready?

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"4:04 AM
Thursday, October 9, 2025 (GMT+13)
Time in Samoa

Therefore Joshua's fallback to the Old Julian Calendar date for his prediction has expired. We can now convict him of a false prophecy."
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That should have been the end of your post right there instead of you continuing to make excuses for this false prophet. Let it go. He's a false prophet. Accept it and move on. One is not to put trust in false prophets, that's absurd. A good majority of us already had good discernment from the get go that he is a false prophet. Clearly, you didn't, and you still don't.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Isn't the spirit in us that which comes from our own heart and mind? Isn't this what Paul was speaking of when he speaks about the daily battle between that which is good and that which is evil?

Having spirit means to be alive, having the breath of life, with functioning heart, mind, will, emotions. With body of flesh and spirit together man was created a "living soul." Why are we instructed to watch and pray that we enter not into temptation, because the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak?

Yes, we have our own spirit that can be influenced, but there are also evil spirits that scripture calls demons (or devils) whose leader is named Satan who try to deceive us and take advantage of our weak flesh. Do you deny the existence of evil spirit beings called demons or fallen angels? Do you deny the existence of an actual evil spirit being named Satan who tempted Jesus in the desert for 40 days and nights and who goes around like a roaring lion trying to find anyone who he may devour spiritually (1 Peter 5:8)? I'm arguing against TribulationSigns belief that there is no such things as a spirit being named Satan and no such thing as angels (both good and bad).

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

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"4:04 AM
Thursday, October 9, 2025 (GMT+13)
Time in Samoa

Therefore Joshua's fallback to the Old Julian Calendar date for his prediction has expired. We can now convict him of a false prophecy."
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That should have been the end of your post right there instead of you continuing to make excuses for this false prophet. Let it go. He's a false prophet. Accept it and move on. One is not to put trust in false prophets, that's absurd. A good majority of us already had good discernment from the get go that he is a false prophet. Clearly, you didn't, and you still don't.

I wasn't sold on it, but part of me was hopeful. I guess with discernment like yours and the rest of you, dreams and visions are automatically dismissed and labeled as false prophecies?
What label do you wear, Post-Trib, Mid-Trib or Pre-Trib? I've been Mid-Trib for along time but consider that I could be wrong and lean towards getting out before it gets bad - thank you very much. And so I welcome this idea.

 

[shepherdsword]

I wasn't sold on it, but part of me was hopeful. I guess with discernment like yours and the rest of you, dreams and visions are automatically dismissed and labeled as a false prophecies?

When one has a dream, vision or some other type of visitation that CLEARLY violates a direct statement of Jesus then it can be immediately dismissed as false prophecy. This Joshua person made a video that said Jesus will return in 14days....whether you are rrrrrrrrrrrready or not rrrrrrrrready. Jesus told us no man would know the day or the hour. That was enough to immediately dismiss him as a liar.

 

[MatthewG]

Believing so wouldn't save a person anyway.

 

[David in NJ]

4:04 AM
Thursday, October 9, 2025 (GMT+13)
Time in Samoa

Therefore Joshua's fallback to the Old Julian Calendar date for his prediction has expired. We can now convict him of a false prophecy ... or consider that he just misinterpreted the message that the Lord gave him. Is that possible ... with someone who is supposed be led by the Holy Spirit ... to spread a false alarm?
I don't think so. Maybe we need to look at this another way?

Another explanation has risen about Joshua's prediction. Maybe those dates Jesus gave for Rosh Hashanah, the Feast of Trumpets, were an announcement that Jesus is coming soon, not on those particular days, but in weeks ...???

In a Galilean Wedding, the Groom, Bride and guests knew the approximate month and week of the proposed ceremony but not the day or hour. A year or two ( in our case 2,000 year) engagement period was alloted for the Groom to prepare a home for His bride and of course the bride needed to also prepare herself and then wait for the announcement of the shofar. Wine was shared at the time of His proposal to seal their committment to be married.
Close to the week set, they all had to be ready, dressed, oil in their lamps, etc. The Father would then say to the Son _ at His chosen day and hour_ "Go get your Bride". His son would go out in the streets and head towards His Bride's home and blow the shofar. All who were invited, heard the sound, got up abruptly and came out and followed him. He would arrive at His betrothed home, she would come out and would be "lifted up on a seat and carried away" to the Father's house. All the guests would follow in and the doors were shut. No late comers were allowed. The wedding ceremony would begin and the reception/ feast would last one week.
So, apparently the Father hasn't told Jesus to go get your Bride yet ... but we are anticipating that sound of the trumpet ( which is a heavenly blast blown by an angle and heard worldwide).
So maybe it was necessary to fulfill scripture, an announcement of his coming soon, not the exact day. The Jews in Jerusalem seem to be sensing a spiritual calling, having dreams and visions, seeing signs.
Blow the trumpet in Zion;
sound the alarm on my holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble,
for the day of the Lord is coming, it is near, Joel 2:1

What could be the delay?
In Revelation 12, there is a war in heaven. And on earth what's going in Israel is key, since in this symbolic picture, the woman is interpreted as Israel.
Remember an angel being delayed to answer Daniel's 21 days of fasting and prayer? Michael came to his assistance to battle with the Principality ( demon) of Persia. There are spiritual wars going on that we are unaware of. Is it a coincidence that Iran is and has been an axis of evil and behind the terrorism suffered by Israel and the world?

The Big Question is, have you been nudged by the Holy Spirit to wake up, sensing the signs, alarming us to the season and time of our Lord's return? I am.

Are You Ready?

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth

Whoever teaches/preaches a pre-trib rapture is NOT abiding under the Holy Spirit.

pre-trib rapture does not exist in Scripture for it never came out of the mouth of God

pre-trib rapture is from the spirit anti-christ for it opposes Christ's Prophecy

LORD JESUS CHRIST says: “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other

 

[marks]

LORD JESUS CHRIST says: “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other

Same as Ezekiel prophesied, and the other prophets . . .

Ezekiel 39:25-29 KJV
25) Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
26) After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
27) When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
28) Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
29) Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

But if you insist on applying this prophecy to others, you won't have the right understanding.

Much love!

 

[TribulationSigns]

Yes, we have our own spirit that can be influenced, but there are also evil spirits that scripture calls demons (or devils) whose leader is named Satan who try to deceive us and take advantage of our weak flesh. Do you deny the existence of evil spirit beings called demons or fallen angels? Do you deny the existence of an actual evil spirit being named Satan who tempted Jesus in the desert for 40 days and nights and who goes around like a roaring lion trying to find anyone who he may devour spiritually (1 Peter 5:8)? I'm arguing against TribulationSigns belief that there is no such things as a spirit being named Satan and no such thing as angels (both good and bad).

First, you clearly do not understand who the spirit of Satan truly is — nor the meaning of the so-called “angels.” You’ve been indoctrinated by traditional church teachings that twisted Scripture into the belief that Satan and angels are “created celestial beings” from the beginning. That entire concept is built upon a false interpretation of passages like Ezekiel 28 (Lucifer) and others. I’m not going to open that subject here, but I will address your so-called “proof texts” involving Christ in the wilderness.

Mat 4:1
(1) Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

The word you keep calling tempted is actually the word tested or tried. Jesus was NOT tempted to sin as you seem to imagine - - as if He had sinful desires, feelings, or wanted to sin. That alone would imply sin in His thought, which is impossible! You should know better. Christ NEVER desired sin, NEVER entertained it, and NEVER had a single thought toward it. Rather, He was tested by the devil, and yet remained completely without sin. In other words, He passed the test flawlessly — in thought, word, and deed. Look the word up yourself — it means tested or tried. That’s a major difference! As it is written:

Heb 4:15
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities (tempted); but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

Christ was tried in all points as we are, but unlike us, He did not fail the test. Again, the word means tried or tested. It’s the same word used here:

Heb 11:17
By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

That word tried is the same word as tempted! But Abraham wasn’t tempted to sin — he was tested by God. Selah! Same word, same meaning. And you know perfectly well that no one can tempt God with sin — neither can Satan. Christ was tested, and He passed the test. Get it?!

Yet despite all this, you stubbornly cling to the notion that Jesus was having a literal one-on-one conversation with some “spirit being” called the Devil in the wilderness. That’s a shallow, carnal understanding of the passage. The account is not about some external spiritual creature whispering in Christ’s ear — just as the incident with Eve and the serpent was not what you’ve been taught to imagine!

Selah!

 

[Muna]

Here is the context,

Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Then here it says,

Heb 2:18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

Notice it say, "suffered being tempted" and in that context of the same is also found in 1 Peter

1 Peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously

This is speaking to a suffering in temptation that can be found in verbal provocations, where his not answering in the like (for example not reviling again) and his threatening not is mentioned

The same word for revile is found in Romans 15:3 is the word reproach

Romans 15:3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.

And so he suffered reproach even as those in Christ will 1 Ti 4:10, 1 Peter 4:14

Likewise Jesus said,

Luke 6:1 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

Luke 10:25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and "tempted" him

Mat 22:18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why "tempt ye" me, ye hypocrites?

Mat 22:35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, "tempting" him

Luke 20:23 But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, Why "tempt ye" me?

The same which seek to accuse him, tempting in this manner

John 8:6 This they said, "tempting" him, that they might have "to accuse" him.

Much like their father the devil

Luke 11:54 Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might "accuse" him.

So there is a spirit that works in them

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

Now the whole context of suffering when tempted

1 Peter 2:22-23 Who "did no sin", neither was guile found "in his mouth" Who, "when he was reviled", reviled "not" again; when he suffered, "he threatened not"; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously

He is a tried stone, and the Spirit of God drove him out to the wilderness "to be" tempted of Satan (because that is what Satan does, and is called, "the Tempter") thats his Job description. They tempted God in the OT, but that does not mean God was tempted but tried by them in that.

 

[David in NJ]

Same as Ezekiel prophesied, and the other prophets . . .

Ezekiel 39:25-29 KJV
25) Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
26) After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
27) When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
28) Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
29) Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

But if you insist on applying this prophecy to others, you won't have the right understanding.

Much love!

Thank you my Brother in Christ,

What is the "applying to others..." = please be specific - ty

 

[marks]

Thank you my Brother in Christ,

What is the "applying to others..." = please be specific - ty

I'm going to apologize for replying to your post, I should not have. I'm sorry!

Much love!

 

[David in NJ]

I'm going to apologize for replying to your post, I should not have. I'm sorry!

Much love!

You and @GRACE ambassador should never be afraid of God's Love for you in TRUTH = Matt 4:4

shhh! - don't talk with the brother that trusts the words of the LORD JESUS who gave to us His Prophecy that HE only Comes Back after the Tribulation = Matt 24:29-31

 

[rwb]

Here is the context,

Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Then here it says,

Heb 2:18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

Notice it say, "suffered being tempted" and in that context of the same is also found in 1 Peter

1 Peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously

This is speaking to a suffering in temptation that can be found in verbal provocations, where his not answering in the like (for example not reviling again) and his threatening not is mentioned

The same word for revile is found in Romans 15:3 is the word reproach

Romans 15:3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.

And so he suffered reproach even as those in Christ will 1 Ti 4:10, 1 Peter 4:14

Likewise Jesus said,

Luke 6:1 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

Luke 10:25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and "tempted" him

Mat 22:18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why "tempt ye" me, ye hypocrites?

Mat 22:35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, "tempting" him

Luke 20:23 But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, Why "tempt ye" me?

The same which seek to accuse him, tempting in this manner

John 8:6 This they said, "tempting" him, that they might have "to accuse" him.

Much like their father the devil

Luke 11:54 Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might "accuse" him.

So there is a spirit that works in them

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

Now the whole context of suffering when tempted

1 Peter 2:22-23 Who "did no sin", neither was guile found "in his mouth" Who, "when he was reviled", reviled "not" again; when he suffered, "he threatened not"; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously

He is a tried stone, and the Spirit of God drove him out to the wilderness "to be" tempted of Satan (because that is what Satan does, and is called, "the Tempter") thats his Job description. They tempted God in the OT, but that does not mean God was tempted but tried by them in that.

Being tested/tried by the tempter does not mean Christ was tempted to sin. The testing/trials are all to prove that Christ is indeed the Son of God, come in the flesh.

 

[Dave Watchman]

4:04 AM
Thursday, October 9, 2025 (GMT+13)
Time in Samoa

Therefore Joshua's fallback to the Old Julian Calendar date for his prediction has expired. We can now convict him of a false prophecy ... or consider that he just misinterpreted the message that the Lord gave him. Is that possible ... with someone who is supposed be led by the Holy Spirit ... to spread a false alarm?
I don't think so. Maybe we need to look at this another way?

Another explanation has risen about Joshua's prediction. Maybe those dates Jesus gave for Rosh Hashanah, the Feast of Trumpets, were an announcement that Jesus is coming soon, not on those particular days, but in weeks ...???

In a Galilean Wedding, the Groom, Bride and guests knew the approximate month and week of the proposed ceremony but not the day or hour. A year or two ( in our case 2,000 year) engagement period was alloted for the Groom to prepare a home for His bride and of course the bride needed to also prepare herself and then wait for the announcement of the shofar. Wine was shared at the time of His proposal to seal their committment to be married.
Close to the week set, they all had to be ready, dressed, oil in their lamps, etc. The Father would then say to the Son _ at His chosen day and hour_ "Go get your Bride". His son would go out in the streets and head towards His Bride's home and blow the shofar. All who were invited, heard the sound, got up abruptly and came out and followed him. He would arrive at His betrothed home, she would come out and would be "lifted up on a seat and carried away" to the Father's house. All the guests would follow in and the doors were shut. No late comers were allowed. The wedding ceremony would begin and the reception/ feast would last one week.
So, apparently the Father hasn't told Jesus to go get your Bride yet ... but we are anticipating that sound of the trumpet ( which is a heavenly blast blown by an angle and heard worldwide).
So maybe it was necessary to fulfill scripture, an announcement of his coming soon, not the exact day. The Jews in Jerusalem seem to be sensing a spiritual calling, having dreams and visions, seeing signs.
Blow the trumpet in Zion;
sound the alarm on my holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble,
for the day of the Lord is coming, it is near, Joel 2:1

What could be the delay?
In Revelation 12, there is a war in heaven. And on earth what's going in Israel is key, since in this symbolic picture, the woman is interpreted as Israel.
Remember an angel being delayed to answer Daniel's 21 days of fasting and prayer? Michael came to his assistance to battle with the Principality ( demon) of Persia. There are spiritual wars going on that we are unaware of. Is it a coincidence that Iran is and has been an axis of evil and behind the terrorism suffered by Israel and the world?

The Big Question is, have you been nudged by the Holy Spirit to wake up, sensing the signs, alarming us to the season and time of our Lord's return? I am.

Are You Ready?

Just this morning I was looking into this. I started talking about this on another forum. I almost forgot to come back to this thread.

So you must have seen the video too? The 21 day delay? Or did you get the 21 day delay idea yourself? The reason for the delay is complicated, it's hard to explain. Jesus can beat Satan in a fight now, but Satan has held some of the saints hostage. I think we're still waiting for some new babies being born, ones that would have been here already if they could have overturned Roe/Wade sooner.

But with this new deal, Joshua can still be right. It's like all the Fall Feasts are the same Feast event of 2025. That video where he shows we had two Feasts on the same day, on the day of a full moon. One Feast on the Julian date, the other on the Gregorian. And the both of them connected to the last day Feast, the 8th day feast, Shemini Atzeret.

The guy shows how two Feasts, on the two different calendars, both fell on the same full moon. I hesitate to post it. The way things are going now he might remove the video by this evening. But it does tie in with the 8th day, and a way old Joshua could still be right. A way where all the Feasts are happening, or connected together at once. In that way it did begin with the Feast of Trumpets. You can add a 21 day delay to the Gregorian Trumpets, and it counts to the last day Feast, the 8th day, Shemini Atzeret. And that's next Tuesday October 14.

In the new video he posits an explanation for Joshua's confusion. He quotes what Joshua said, claiming Jesus told him he would come for His church on the Feast of Trumpets. He's not going to get them, He will come at that time, He will embark on, or initiate, the expedition.

There's a bunch of detail. Joshua was not Moses. Only Moses would God speak to directly, face to face, without riddles. Anybody else just gets dreams and visions, and riddles. God is basically saying, unless it's Moses He's talking to, anyone else might be getting riddles to figure out. Joshua had enough trouble figuring out his cell phone. The video guy can explain it for anyone still following along.

"And he said, “Hear my words: If there is a prophet among you, I the Lord make myself known to him in a vision; I speak with him in a dream. Not so with my servant Moses. He is faithful in all my house. With him I speak mouth to mouth, clearly, and not in riddles, and he beholds the form of the Lord. - Numbers 12:6-8​

Maybe all Calendars belong to God. He made the space time continuum which makes that measurement required. Without time, the Creation of a physical universe, calendars would not be required. This new deal is not impossible, I'd give it a 35% chance of success.