Copperhead
Well-Known Member
There will be a restoration of God's Israel when Jesus returns. Notice I said God's Israel, not the Jew's view of Israel.
God's True Israel:
Rom 9:6-8
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
KJV
What Apostle Paul was actually talking about there was God's Promise by Faith first given to Abraham. That was 430 years before the law when God gave Abraham the Promise. It is not of works, nor of birth. It is by God's grace by Faith on The Gospel of Jesus Christ.
The Promise would continue to Isaac, and then to his seed Jacob who would be given the new name 'Israel' to represent The Gospel Promise by Faith! And then the Promise of The Gospel would go to Jacob's seed Joseph, and then to Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh where Ephraim would become "a multitude of nations" in The Gospel, and then The Gospel would go out to ALL nations in the world to bring all believers into Christ's Kingdom.
Thus trying to tie The Gospel Promise solely to one people and one small place on earth is not what God's Word is about.
Ok. I will listen to that line of thinking, but only if you can provide ample documentary support for that from the OT. The Biblical standard laid out in scripture (Torah) is that for any matter to be established, it must have the confirmation of two or more witnesses. The Bereans in Acts 17 showed us how that is applied. They searched the scripture (OT was all they had) to see if what Paul taught them was true. Paul makes up a good portion of the NT. So the standard is that any doctrinal matter must have solid evidentiary support in both OT and NT that compliments each other, or it fails to meet that standard and is to be ignored.
You have to prove from the OT that in no way was physical, literal Jacob (Israel) in view regarding the restoration at the second coming.
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