Reason for The Crusades explained

[Armour of God]

Why did the Crusaders also kill Jews and Christians?

Wikipedia correctly says

The Crusades were a series of military campaigns launched by the papacy between 1095 and 1291 against Muslim rulers for the recovery and defence of the Holy Land,

I'm sorry but you have your facts mixed up my friend

 

[Matthias]

I'm sorry but that is false.
Christian kingdoms in Europe were at war with each other. Maybe thats what you mean. But the crusade wars were strictly against Islam. That's an undeniable historical fact

How can it be false when the dicumentation is provided in this thread? That the Crusaders killed Muslims, Jews and Christians is conceded and acknowledged by reputable Christian and Jewish (and Muslim) sources.

 

[Matthias]

Wikipedia correctly says

The Crusades were a series of military campaigns launched by the papacy between 1095 and 1291 against Muslim rulers for the recovery and defence of the Holy Land,

I'm sorry but you have your facts mixed up my friend

While Wikipedia can be a useful source, IF it denies that the Crusaders also killed Christians and Jews then it is misreporting the facts.

 

[Armour of God]

While Wikipedia can be a useful source, IF it denies that the Crusaders also killed Christians and Jews then it is misreporting the facts.

Please supply a source for your claims

 

[Armour of God]

While Wikipedia can be a useful source, IF it denies that the Crusaders also killed Christians and Jews then it is misreporting the facts.

Here is another source from Brittanica

Crusades, military expeditions, beginning in the late 11th century, that were organized by western European Christians in response to centuries of Muslim wars of expansion. Their objectives were to check the spread of Islam, to retake control of the Holy Land

 

[Matthias]

Please supply a source for your claims

I’ve supplied dozens of them in this thread.

A moment ago I did an online search using the question “Did the Crusaders also kill Christians and Jews?” and it pulled up a bevy of sources - including but not limited to Wikipedia - which confirmed that they did.

 

[Armour of God]

While Wikipedia can be a useful source, IF it denies that the Crusaders also killed Christians and Jews then it is misreporting the facts.

History.com says

The Crusades were a series of religious wars between Christians and Muslims started primarily to secure control of holy sites considered sacred by both groups

 

[Matthias]

Here is another source from Brittanica

Crusades, military expeditions, beginning in the late 11th century, that were organized by western European Christians in response to centuries of Muslim wars of expansion. Their objectives were to check the spread of Islam, to retake control of the Holy Land

I don’t think anyone has gone on record in this thread denying this information. I certainly haven’t. It doesn’t alter the fact that the Crusaders killed Christians and Jews as well as Muslims.

 

[Armour of God]

I’ve supplied dozens of them in this thread.

A moment ago I did an online search using the question “Did the Crusaders also kill Christians and Jews?” and it pulled up a bevy of sources - including but not limited to Wikipedia - which confirmed that they did.

I can't see these sources.
Can you show me please

I've supplied 3 sources showing that the wars were against Islam

 

[Matthias]

History.com says

The Crusades were a series of religious wars between Christians and Muslims started primarily to secure control of holy sites considered sacred by both groups

Does History.com deny that the Crusaders also killed Christians and Jews?

 

[Matthias]

I can't see these sources.
Can you show me please

Yes, but why are you unable to see / read those already posted in this thread?

I've supplied 3 sources showing that the wars were against Islam

There are many other sources quoted in this thread - by myself and others - that do so as well.

 

[Armour of God]

Does History.com deny that the Crusaders also killed Christians and Jews?

Can you just please supply your sources.
I can't see them
I have supplied 3 sources already.

I admit that Christian kingdoms fought against each other as did Islamic kingdoms did. But the crusade wars were against Muslims. That's an undeniable fact

 

[Armour of God]

This is from schoolhistory.com

The Crusades (1095 – 1291) are a series of military expeditions made by western Christians seeking to free the Holy Land from Muslim domination.

Thats 4 sources ive quoted

 

[Matthias]

Can you just please supply your sources.
I can't see them
I have supplied 3 sources already.

I admit that Christian kingdoms fought against each other as did Islamic kingdoms did. But the crusade wars were against Muslims. That's an undeniable fact

I’ve provided links to my sources whenever possible so that everyone can read it for themselves. When unable to provide links I’ve provided references.

I still don’t understand why you aren’t able to see / read them in this thread.

What is keeping you from doing a search for “Did the Crusaders also kill Christians and Jews”? It should pull up the same information and sources for you that it did for me.

 

[Matthias]

This is from schoolhistory.com

The Crusades (1095 – 1291) are a series of military expeditions made by western Christians seeking to free the Holy Land from Muslim domination.

Thats 4 sources ive quoted

I’ve accepted all of your sources.

 

[Armour of God]

I’ve provided links to my sources whenever possible so that everyone can read it for themselves. When unable to provide links I’ve provided references.

I still don’t understand why you aren’t able to see / read them in this thread.

What is keeping you from doing a search for “The Crusaders also killed Christians and Jews”? It should pull up the same information and sources for you that it did for me.

I can't see them. Why can't you just show me them. Makes me think you have no sources at all
World history encyclopaedia says

The Crusades were a series of military campaigns organised by popes and Christian western powers to take Jerusalem and the Holy Land back from Muslim control and then defend those gains.

That's 5 sources I've provided now. Without reading your sources i can only say that your claims are false.
Christian in fighting maybe yes but it wasn't the objective

 

[Matthias]

I can't see them. Why can't you just show me them. Makes me think you have no sources at all
World history encyclopaedia says

The Crusades were a series of military campaigns organised by popes and Christian western powers to take Jerusalem and the Holy Land back from Muslim control and then defend those gains.

That's 5 sources I've provided now. Without reading your sources i can only say that your claims are false.
Christian in fighting maybe yes but it wasn't the objective

Thanks. I’ll bump one of my posts for you. If that doesn’t work then I’ll try reposting some of them for you.

 

[Armour of God]

Thanks. I’ll bump one of my posts for you. If that doesn’t work then I’ll try reposting some of them for you.

Please

 

[Matthias]

Please

Here’s one where I used AI (concerning the issue of Crusader atrocities in general). Are you able to follow the link to my post (#269) and read it?

Post in thread 'Reason for The Crusades explained'
Reason for The Crusades explained

 

[Wrangler]

I'm sorry but that is false.
Christian kingdoms in Europe were at war with each other. Maybe thats what you mean. But the crusade wars were strictly against Islam. That's an undeniable historical fact

You will be amazed at what hyper-grace, overly-spiritualized people deny. They've chosen to make themselves irrelevant in the public square, abandoning all soul-full responsibilities and allow themselves to be directed by enemies of God - and they think they have the moral high ground!