Reason for The Crusades explained

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Fear, division, hatred = war. Media will be the death of so many.

Indeed the media is the vending machine of fear and political manipulation. Have you heard of “perception management” ? It’s how the ruler of this world makes you believe what is not true. He uses advertising and the NEWS to spread his agenda across the globe. People have been trained to believer their leaders, and institutions......but nowadays that is getting harder because NEWS travels faster than they can control it....especially if it’s something they don’t want people to hear.

Damage control is what is then implemented.....trying to explain what is right under people’s noses, but the propaganda is taking their “perceptions” on a different path. The Charlie Kirk incident is a case in point......some of the details that are coming out are very confusing to a lot of people. They don’t know who or what to believe anymore. We live in an age where deception has become an art form.....we can believe none of what we see and only half of what we hear....that is what my old grandma used to say 60 odd years ago. I wonder what she would think if she was alive today?

Martial law has been on the Horizon since 911, I believe it is intentional. The Lord did show this to me, very clearly around 10 or so years back. A lot of folks thought I was being a whack-a doo!
It's so clear to me!

It’s clear to a lot of people, but those in control want it tightened so that it is absolute. Totalitarianism has proven to be a disaster in every nation that was subjected to it.....power corrupts as we all know....and the way the world is going is showing us how close we are to it’s implementation. Globalism is their only solution...a “one world government” that controls everything and everyone. Digital currency where they can prevent you from spending your own money if you haven’t complied with their enforceable rules. They want to control all your movements and activities, whilst convincing you that this is a good way to live.
What did the leader of WEF say?....”you will own nothing and you will be happy”.....really?

We got a glimpse of this kind of control with the p a n d e m I c....the control was brutal, but tolerated because it was for “the common good”......like the vaxxes, now proving to cause debilitating diseases and early death even in young, healthy people. The damage is done...and only God can undo it. Can we trust those who are under the devil’s influence, whilst claiming to be “Christians”? (1 John 5:19)

Rise and shine and, give God the glory, glory"! Was a song we sung like everyday at summer camp!

Oh Lord, strengthen your people, amen.

This is why endurance is needed to live “in the world” but to be “no part of it”....(Matt 24:13)
People are not “enduring”...the misled majority are “succumbing” in what is going to be the most decisive period in human history....lulled into a false sense of security by political promises that will always fail....putting their trust in the most untrustworthy people and institutions who claim to have their best interests at heart. Blatant lies! They are only interested in themselves.

When it all goes pear shaped, where will we find the world leaders? Safe in their fortified bunkers whilst the rest of their people are outside reaping the disaster that these ones have fomented. But they cannot hide from God. Their safe retreats are not as safe as they imagine.

If our trust is in man.....we will fail along with them.....our trust must be in God who has already told us what to expect in the coming days....there are only “sheep” and “goats” in the world, when Jesus comes as judge.....in which category will he find us?

 

[Matthias]

“Government has three primary functions. It should provide for military defense of the nation. It should enforce contracts between individuals. It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property.” - Milton Friedman

None of those functions was the responsibility of the New Testament church to perform.

The great commission isn’t: “Go and provide military defense of the kingdoms of the world, enforce contracts between individuals, and protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property.”

 

[Nancy]

Indeed the media is the vending machine of fear and political manipulation. Have you heard of “perception management” ? It’s how the ruler of this world makes you believe what is not true. He uses advertising and the NEWS to spread his agenda across the globe. People have been trained to believer their leaders, and institutions......but nowadays that is getting harder because NEWS travels faster than they can control it....especially if it’s something they don’t want people to hear.

Damage control is what is then implemented.....trying to explain what is right under people’s noses, but the propaganda is taking their “perceptions” on a different path. The Charlie Kirk incident is a case in point......some of the details that are coming out are very confusing to a lot of people. They don’t know who or what to believe anymore. We live in an age where deception has become an art form.....we can believe none of what we see and only half of what we hear....that is what my old grandma used to say 60 odd years ago. I wonder what she would think if she was alive today?

It’s clear to a lot of people, but those in control want it tightened so that it is absolute. Totalitarianism has proven to be a disaster in every nation that was subjected to it.....power corrupts as we all know....and the way the world is going is showing us how close we are to it’s implementation. Globalism is their only solution...a “one world government” that controls everything and everyone. Digital currency where they can prevent you from spending your own money if you haven’t complied with their enforceable rules. They want to control all your movements and activities, whilst convincing you that this is a good way to live.
What did the leader of WEF say?....”you will own nothing and you will be happy”.....really?

We got a glimpse of this kind of control with the p a n d e m I c....the control was brutal, but tolerated because it was for “the common good”......like the vaxxes, now proving to cause debilitating diseases and early death even in young, healthy people. The damage is done...and only God can undo it. Can we trust those who are under the devil’s influence, whilst claiming to be “Christians”? (1 John 5:19)

This is why endurance is needed to live “in the world” but to be “no part of it”....(Matt 24:13)
People are not “enduring”...the misled majority are “succumbing” in what is going to be the most decisive period in human history....lulled into a false sense of security by political promises that will always fail....putting their trust in the most untrustworthy people and institutions who claim to have their best interests at heart. Blatant lies! They are only interested in themselves.

When it all goes pear shaped, where will we find the world leaders? Safe in their fortified bunkers whilst the rest of their people are outside reaping the disaster that these ones have fomented. But they cannot hide from God. Their safe retreatsw are not as safe as they imagine.

If our trust is in man.....we will fail along with them.....our trust must be in God who has already told us what to expect in the coming days....there are only “sheep” and “goats” in the world, when Jesus comes as judge.....in which category will he find us?

Yes, we are to be "in" the world, not "of" the world.
The really sad thing is that those under this deception of the enemy have no idea they are being deceived. The imposter also comes on a white horse.

Yes, which category will He find us.

It's easy to see how many of the deceived Christians will turn in their own families, thinking they are doing them a favor.
It's all so sad knowing that the large majority of my extended family is not saved, they are deep into the world and they think they are "good people". SMH

 

[Wick Stick]

“Government has three primary functions. It should provide for military defense of the nation. It should enforce contracts between individuals. It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property.” - Milton Friedman

None of those functions was the responsibility of the New Testament church to perform.

The great commission isn’t: “Go and provide military defense of the kingdoms of the world, enforce contracts between individuals, and protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property.”

Mostly agree, but it occurred to me that one of the functions of the church was to oversee its members and their behavior. That looks a bit like "prevent crimes" when I squint.

 

[Jericho]

On a personal level, is God not able to protect? Of course he is able.

Obey Jesus and be still. Depend on God to defend you. Absolutely not, say the majority of Christians.

That's all well and good, but we still live in a world where bad things happen to good people. There's been thousands of Christians that have been murdered in Nigeria this year alone.

And the apostles? And the martyrs?

Tradition says they were martyred, but we don't know that for sure. Even if they martyred, it doesn't mean they died willingly. John 21:18 may imply Peter would be martyred unwillingly when he was old. And of course, there's the saints that will be martyred by the antichrist who cry out for God to avenge their blood (Rev 6-11).

 

[Matthias]

Mostly agree, but it occurred to me that one of the functions of the church was to oversee its members and their behavior. That looks a bit like "prevent crimes" when I squint.

The head of the church is Jesus. I think you’ll probably agree that the church should be acting as he acted and acts.

How is the church “preventing crimes”?

 

[Matthias]

That's all well and good, but we still live in a world where bad things happen to good people. There's been thousands of Christians that have been murdered in Nigeria this year alone.

That’s right. How does that make the murdered Christians look in your eyes?

Tradition says they were martyred, but we don't know that for sure. Even if they martyred, it doesn't mean they died willingly. John 21:18 may imply Peter would be martyred unwillingly when he was old. And of course, there's the saints that will be martyred by the antichrist who cry out for God to avenge their blood (Rev 6-11).

I’m willing to be martyred but I’m not hoping to be. Have you read Tertullian? He longed to be martyred - I’m sure he wasn’t the only one who did - but wasn’t.

 

[lforrest]

I was thinking of this the other day, how the devil provokes a reaction and then accuses and condemns that reaction. It happened with the crusades, as you always hear of it as a black mark on chrisondom. But you don't hear about violent Islamic expansion into Europe. Because if they had their way Islam would have taken over the world.

You see similar patterns in the news these days. Some lefty is violent towards conservatives and if they respond in any way other than rolling over, they get arrested.

 

[marks]

John 21:18 may imply Peter would be martyred unwillingly when he was old.

Jesus told Peter the kind of death he would die simply by telling him they would take him where he didn't want to go. For this to communicte that Peter would be crucified tells us that this death particularly horrified Peter.

And I keep that in mind when I consider that Peter pulled his sword against the soldiers who had come to arrest Jesus, risking his life to do so. But then he deserted Jesus when he saw Jesus was going to be crucified Himself. I thing Peter was ready to die for Jesus, just not that way.

For the remainder of Peter's life, he knew he would in fact be crucified when he was old. Just imagine!

Much love!

 

[marks]

Mostly agree, but it occurred to me that one of the functions of the church was to oversee its members and their behavior. That looks a bit like "prevent crimes" when I squint.

1 Corinthians 6:3-7 KJV
3) Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4) If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5) I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6) But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
7) Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?

And to settle disputes (enforce contracts).

Much love!

 

[Wick Stick]

The head of the church is Jesus. I think you’ll probably agree that the church should be acting as he acted and acts.

How is the church “preventing crimes”?

The overseers/presbyters/bishops of the churches are responsible for monitoring the behavior of the people in their congregations, and taking corrective action when necessary.

 

[Matthias]

The overseers/presbyters/bishops of the churches are responsible for monitoring the behavior of the people in their congregations, and taking corrective action when necessary.

Do you think action would be necessary if members of the congregation were killing Jews, Muslims, fellow Christians (of any and all varieties), etc. who are persecuting their congregation?

 

[Wick Stick]

Do you think action would be necessary if members of the congregation were killing Jews, Muslims, fellow Christians (of any and all varieties), etc. who are persecuting their congregation?

I find self-defense allowable, and anything beyond that is a problem.

 

[Matthias]

I find self-defense allowable, and anything beyond that is a problem.

Thanks. Do you know of any examples in the New Testament of a congregation under siege by the Romans (or others) who killed their attackers? We can find examples in post-biblical times.

 

[Wick Stick]

Thanks. Do you know of any examples in the New Testament of a congregation under siege by the Romans (or others) who killed their attackers? We can find examples in post-biblical times.

The only example of a congregation under siege in the NT text that comes to mind is that of Paul arresting Christians and having them beaten/stoned. Within the timeframe of the NT, but not explicitly within the text of canonical books, we know that the church at Jerusalem was persecuted by the Jews there, who murdered/executed several apostles.

Paul also hints at problems between churches and Jewish communities in Asia Minor, but there aren't any specifics given.

That's a soft no - closer to a "we don't know."

 

[Matthias]

“See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people.”

(1 Thessalonians 5:15, NASB)

Is that what the Crusaders did? Is that what the Catholic church did?

 

[Bladerunner]

I had always heard about The Crusades in a negative way. But in this video, Bob from Speaker's Corner in London, explains why The Crusades started. They were in response to centuries of Islamic invasion of many Christian countries.

in one afternoon, one POPE, innocent III or IV killed more Christians than the Roman Army did in 1800 years of rule. The crusades were used to bring about compliance of how the Bible was thought of...How the Pope had declared it to read...Having Bibles werer outlawed and many lands were Christian. These nations were to be defeated and brought to the light of the Pope.

 

[Matthias]

 

[Matthias]

”Cure thy children’s warring madness” - just words or words that are just?

Does anyone else remember singing this hymn at church? It is one of my favorites.

 

[Wick Stick]

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