First, they died spiritually. All their descendants begin their physical lives in a state of spiritual death and must experience the new birth.
And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
Ephesians 2:1-7 ESV
Second, their bodies began to age, the process which would eventually lead to their physical death.
GINOLJC, to all.
theophilus, that was an excellent post. I commend you on what you posted here. TRUE, Adam and Eve Died Spiritually, a fall from Grace.
second, they began to age physically , CORRECT again. for the wages of sin, not the "wage", no, but the "wage
S", "s" on the end, of sin is death, progressive. many christian missed that, thank God some didn't. for no one one knows how old Adam and Eve was before they sin, nor do the rocks know. sin bring decay or nastural entropy. not in a biological action of decomposition due to "Rot", by fungi or bacteria, but in the process of deterioration or "decay", again progressive. other words decomposition vs deterioration.
so with that, let me speak where I stand on this OP topic, and that's with the bible, in TRUE Science, which is of God.
I cannot buy the theory of "reincarnation" based on the current law of conservation of mass or principle of mass conservation in an closed system, where matter is transfered, (neither created nor destroyed), and must remain constant over time. with new discoveries in the world of quantum physics the old know laws of physics are now being abolish, just as in the Spirit world, the OT Law has been replaced with the NT Law, so are the same in the scientific world.
the bible is clear about reincarnation vs incarnation. “Reincarnation” usually means a series of consecutive lives where a soul inhibits physical
bodies through the process of natural birth. "incarnation” just means spirit coming into the matter, or our bodies and creates one living soul through the process of that natural birth. and the bible is clear about this, scripture, Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and
spirit to them that walk therein". BINGO, and this is clearly seen right in the beginning of the First and Last Adam.
The First Adam, Genesis 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man
became a living soul". ONE soul, now STOP and think. is this a closed natural system based on the current law of conservation of mass or principle of mass conservation? no, so we have to live in an open system of conservation
where engery is not restricted to tranfer only.
the Last Adam, 1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit". we know that this spirit was not in in a flesh body before, but exist already, so when the spirit incarnation as the definition states, in a body through the process of natural birth, was a soul, neither created nor destroyed, nor tranfered, scripture, Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us". so the bible is clear on "incarnation", which we all are, for it is an open natural system of conservation, God has room, so to speak, to make new souls, without violating the second law of thermodynamics . and here's why I say this, John 1:3 "All things were
made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made". BINGO, not recycled, nor transferred but made new, not "CREATED NEW" for all the souls has been created. supportive scripture, Revelation 21:5 "And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold,
I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful". for what has been created is "made" new, or for the better, has, or will be made manifested. for the spirit world is an "Open" natural system that is not seen. and by making all things new the the second law of thermodynamics is not violated. and this is where I depart from the walk of traditional christian and their beliefs. God is Lord and he can do anything, except fail. the laws of God do not restrict or prohibit God from doinjg anything new or different.
sorry theophilus in using your post reply to speak my position on reincarnation incarnation.
Be blessed,
PICJAG.
PS I again commend you on excellent post.
