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Habakkuk is great!

One of the passages that really puts me in the right frame of mind . . .

The LORD is in His holy temple. Let all the earth keep silence before Him.

It reminds me of the verse, in quietness and trust is our strength.

Much love!
Habakkuk the Prophet
Habakkuk 3:1-19 Y’hovah, I know Your fame, I am in awe of what You have done. You make Yourself known and in your wrath You do not forget mercy. God comes from Sinai, His splendor covers the sky and earth. As bright as the dawn, rays of light flash from His hand and thereby His might is veiled. Plague and pestilence go before and after Him. The earth shakes and nations panic. The mountains are broken and flattened. The dwellings of Cushan and Midian [Arabia] are destroyed.


What is the cause of Your anger, O God? You arm Your weapons and the earth and sea shake with fear. The sun and moon stand still. Furiously You traverse the earth, and trample the nations. You come to deliver Your people and save Your anointed one You shatter the house of the wicked, laying bare its foundations. With his own weapon You kill their leaders and warriors, swept away by a whirlwind, as they prepare to attack. I tremble at Your advance, but I long for the Day of calamity to come upon our enemies. Although the fig tree [Judah] has not yet budded and the grape vine [Israel] bears no fruit, the Land does not prosper, even so, I shall exult in the Lord. Y’hovah is my strength, He makes me sure footed and confident.
Reference; Revised English Bible. Some verses abridged.


Chapter three of the Book of Habakkuk, describes how the Lord will act to punish His enemies and protect His people.

Hab 3:14...as they are about to devour their victims. This verse is an interesting description of the method and timing of the Lord’s Day of vengeance. “swept away by a whirlwind” and earlier; “rays of light flashing”. This seems to confirm the Lord will use a coronal mass ejection; a sun explosion, which will strike at the exact moment that His enemies prepare to attack.

Deuteronomy 32:31-35...My reserve of punishment, stored up for My day of vengeance, till the moment that their foot slips, [make a mistake] for their doom is fast approaching.

Note that: “His might is veiled” The Lord will not be seen at this time. Psalms 18:11.

Furiously, You trample the nations” This is the fulfilment of Isaiah 63:1-6, Isaiah 2:12-21, Zechariah 12:13, Zechariah 14:13-15, Malachi 4:1, Hebrews 10:27, Rev 6:12-17.

Punishment, trampling, fierce fire, etc, cannot be the same event as the Return of Jesus.

But, this is also the Day of deliverance for His people. We look forward with trepidation to the great day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath.

Judah [the fig tree] does not yet acknowledge Jesus, and Israel [the vine] still must show their true destiny. When this happens, the Land and His people will prosper.

That will be the wonderful Day when the Lords righteous people live together in peace and security in all of the holy Land.
Ezekiel 39:25-29, Isaiah 62:1-5, Isaiah 40:1-3, Jeremiah 3:14, Micah 2:12, Zechariah 8:7, Psalms 68:7-10.
 

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Habakkuk is great!

One of the passages that really puts me in the right frame of mind . . .

The LORD is in His holy temple. Let all the earth keep silence before Him.

It reminds me of the verse, in quietness and trust is our strength.

Much love!

Now I can say that comment was truly prophetic! ;) My wife will verify that that was the very verse I drew her attention to, saying that I was understanding it in a new way. The Lutheran Church I had grown up in had a sign as you enter the sanctuary declaring, "Let all the earth keep silence before Him." It was a call to reverence for God, as we approach worshiping Him.

But I told my wife, "I think I now understand what that silence in heaven is all about, that last half hour, in the book of Revelation!" It is a pause to recognize the great judgment awaiting those arrogant men who God had tolerated for awhile, who somehow thought there was no God to hold them accountable.

Surely, the world will hold its tongue when God gets real angry, and no longer tolerates the boasting of wicked men! Thanks brother--that was the very verse I latched onto more than any other in Habakkuk! :)
 
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But I told my wife, "I think I now understand what that silence in heaven is all about, that last half hour, in the book of Revelation!" It is a pause to recognize the great judgment awaiting those arrogant men who God had tolerated for awhile, who somehow thought there was no God to hold them accountable.
As you and the Bible plainly state; the about a half hour of silence, is in heaven.
But there will be turmoil on earth! All as described from Rev 8 to Rev 19:11.
 
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All I know is ,there will be a one world government, how we get there is what I'm studying .Just don't how a so called Christian could vote for trump .God put him there, is all I heard ,guess God didn't put in Biden.. Like you told me, deal with it and keep moving
 

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It's not over yet! There is obviously massive fraud, hundreds of people involved, a conspiracy, a well planned assault with hundreds of millions of dollars spent to get rid of Trump.
Romans 13:1 - 2 says God appoints all authorities and whoever resists these authorities brings judgment on themselves.
We have faith and we have a rational mind to sort through this.
Without going into details, since Trump was elected, the Left has tried everything to get rid of him and nothing worked. Trump appointed three Supreme Court Judges, created prosperity and kept us safe - all good things. Was this just a temporary lift out of a depressed dark cloud? Maybe. Was light shed on evil? Yes.
ISAIAH 5:20 warns us of the times we are in, when good means evil, evil means good and darkness means light. Woe to them he says! Keep in mind, somewhere during this tribulation period, God sends out a strong delusion, so that they believe the lies. They are living in an upside down world, with a distorted view of reality. Blind, they are not capable of seeing.
But consider this, given that God appointed Trump to do all this good, protectes him along the way, thwarted every attack against him, succeeded in creating a nation wide rally of love for him, backed by prayers; why would God put a halt on all these blessings and appoint Biden? I can only think of one reason: To usher us into the One World Government, controled by the Antichrist ( which is prophesied to happen).
We took sides. Good and evil were made prevalent for us to clearly witness. Now, under this dark cloud, we pray. For what? For Trump to win and try to fix the country _ again? He can't fix this country. It is too corrupt and has been descending into immorality since the sixties. There is not only a swamp in government, there is corruption everywhere. And so the only one who can fix the world is Jesus.
But still, God may have appointed Trump and so he may pull through this with the help of the SCOTUS, after light is shed on all the fraud. So what then? MAGA? We still have Satan, the Antichrist and their elite army wanting to dismantle the USA as we know it. What would be their final hand? More pestilence (Covid-19 and Covid - 21), and/or war- whatever it takes to collapse the economy. Trump (given that he built up our military), would be the one needed, the one who would not hesitate to press buttons when the Rider on the Red Horse comes (could that be Red China?).
It's not over yet! Earlier this year I believe we entered into the "beginning of sorrows" and so we are just getting started. We were warned that these times would be the most stressful times. Have faith until that last trumpet to blows.

The only problem I have is that you believe your own foolishness.
 

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The only problem I have is that you believe your own foolishness.

I guess you must be a Democrat?
It's hard to argue against people who just attack your character (just like Trump was attacked for four years), offering no substance. These kind of petty and empty insults are commonly used.
Please be more specific - narrow it down or maybe you think just all of it is foolishness? That would include scripture as well?
There is an investigation going on. Obvious massive fraud on our voting process was committed.
Facebook and Twitter along with all media including Fox are censoring these claims, omitting Trumps tweets, post-election speeches and just today I read even Fox news cutting off the White House Press Secretary for rebuking the Democrats who have allowed fraud. And they don't care how they win, just that they do. The whole scheme is diabolical ... that is the scheme leading us into this One World Government.
 
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What did you see coming?
This whole election thing and what is also coming .
Has anyone been watching all the different news sources . its mind boggling to try and even ascertain the truth .
Its like the media has went mad . All they will end up doing is turning america totally against one another .
Look , a list is coming . This is bigger than just biden and trump .
If i were any of you all and you see friendly sites and they are asking anyone to sign petetions or sucessions from
the united states . DO not sign it . If conservative sites ask trump supporters if biden wins would you succeed from the union .
DO NOT sign it . The same goes for if they ask Biden supporters if trump ends up winning would you succeed .
Your names go right to a data base . They are determining who might be a potential threat .
Believe me , i used to work anti terroism for two years . DO not sign a thing . Your name goes to a data base .
 
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Yea, I personally got caught up in the emotions. I really thought promoting Trump in this election was the right thing, the godly thing. I've lost a tremendous amount of respect for those who claim to prophesy, see visions, and know God. From now on, the more you say you know God, the less respect I have for you.
The church has to pull out of this now . Its a mess and a distraction . Men were never our savoirs .
We must put the focus on Christ again .
What is going on is far bigger than either biden or trump . This is about divide and conquer
and they are making a list . Have you noticed the confusion of faces on all of this .
Its peaking . I never heeded any of them prophets . And i sure dont heed the liberal churches either .
WE are in trouble . This world is headed right into a snare and a false solution is coming .
 

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On Sid Roth the prophets are still confident of a Trump victory.
 
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All I know is ,there will be a one world government, how we get there is what I'm studying .Just don't how a so called Christian could vote for trump .God put him there, is all I heard ,guess God didn't put in Biden.. Like you told me, deal with it and keep moving

Yes, God would've preferred Israel to vote for Himself, but instead Samuel allowed them to vote for King Saul. The reason many Christians, like myself, voted for Trump was because there were only 2 real options. One held to biblical positions, such as defense of country, pro-traditional family, responsible charity--not enablement, anti-abortion, limiting unworthy immigrants, free capitalism instead of a socialistic, elitist government that makes decisions for people.
 
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Let all be praying the will of GOD be done . And start building one another up with sound biblical doctrine .
Look near the end it was foretold a beast would rise and have power over all nations .
What GOD has purposed will not fail to come to pass .
It even says they agree and give their kingdom unto the beast , having one mind , FOR GOD has purposed it .
ITS a weapon being formed . But it too will be destroyed , but not by men .
Simply be focused on CHRIST and be prepared to endure what will unfold in time .
 
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On Sid Roth the prophets are still confident of a Trump victory.
Even if they get it right . SID ROTH .
Have you seen the new age stuff he allows on that show . Something is all wrong .
WE Must return to our bibles and be seeking diligently the LORD .
 

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So many back in the days of israel were seeing visions and dreams and prophesy this or that .
WE MUST pull out of this . Go back to scripture studies and be in heavy prayer . Get built up by good exhortations .
Cause what is coming next we wont want no part of it . WE must simply endure faithful to the end .
 
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Even if they get it right . SID ROTH .
Have you seen the new age stuff he allows on that show . Something is all wrong .
WE Must return to our bibles and be seeking diligently the LORD .

I see charasmatic stuff on there, which isn't new age. New Age is about a one world, self help, mysticism, the universe is God, kind of religion.
 
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The Charismatic and the fundamentalist need each other. Each completes the other, making them grounded in TRUTH and LOVE. When fundamentalism is prevalent textualism rules, when Charismatics rule discernment is lost and seducing spirits come in. Each side has to see the need for the Other, which means the fundamentalist has to come to see their textualism and desire the experience of the Charismatic, and the charismatic has to see the seducing spirits amongst them and come discern the truth from the experience and emotion.

Some of the stuff on Sid Roth deals with Numerology and astrology and borders on the Occult/ New age, Most is just well meaning or misunderstood Christians. Some of the guests are truly hearing from God. Most of Christendom is lost in what is known as "humanistic religion" Where man is the center of the experience. That is man trying to reach God. True Christianity is learning to submit to God and trusting in strength to preserve you, that is entering His rest. When we get out of the way is when he uses us.

And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. ( 1 Cor 2:4-5)
That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. (Col. 2:2-4)
 

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The Charismatic and the fundamentalist need each other. Each completes the other, making them grounded in TRUTH and LOVE. When fundamentalism is prevalent textualism rules, when Charismatics rule discernment is lost and seducing spirits come in. Each side has to see the need for the Other, which means the fundamentalist has to come to see their textualism and desire the experience of the Charismatic, and the charismatic has to see the seducing spirits amongst them and come discern the truth from the experience and emotion.

Some of the stuff on Sid Roth deals with Numerology and astrology and borders on the Occult/ New age, Most is just well meaning or misunderstood Christians. Some of the guests are truly hearing from God. Most of Christendom is lost in what is known as "humanistic religion" Where man is the center of the experience. That is man trying to reach God. True Christianity is learning to submit to God and trusting in strength to preserve you, that is entering His rest. When we get out of the way is when he uses us.

And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. ( 1 Cor 2:4-5)
That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. (Col. 2:2-4)
The Charismatic and the fundamentalist need each other. Each completes the other, making them grounded in TRUTH and LOVE. When fundamentalism is prevalent textualism rules, when Charismatics rule discernment is lost and seducing spirits come in. Each side has to see the need for the Other, which means the fundamentalist has to come to see their textualism and desire the experience of the Charismatic, and the charismatic has to see the seducing spirits amongst them and come discern the truth from the experience and emotion.

Some of the stuff on Sid Roth deals with Numerology and astrology and borders on the Occult/ New age, Most is just well meaning or misunderstood Christians. Some of the guests are truly hearing from God. Most of Christendom is lost in what is known as "humanistic religion" Where man is the center of the experience. That is man trying to reach God. True Christianity is learning to submit to God and trusting in strength to preserve you, that is entering His rest. When we get out of the way is when he uses us.

And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. ( 1 Cor 2:4-5)
That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. (Col. 2:2-4)

I haven't seen all of Sid Roth's shows, but if I did see that I would probably skip the video.

Do fundamentalists have discernement, Charasmatcs lack? I think it is more likely skepticism.
 

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I did provide scriptural support for what will happen. Did you bother to read them?

1/ The sun will send out a massive burst of the entire spectrum of light to microwaves. Isaiah 30:26a
2/ A powerful EMP will cause armed nuke missiles to explode. Jeremiah 50:22-27 & 49:35-37
3/ The sky will darken, as Joel 2:31 and Revelation 6:12 and others say.
4/ The mountains will move from their place.... the deep penetration of the microwaves will cause this. Deuteronomy 32:22

This will happen, or the Bible prophets are wrong.

So you are saying God is going to violate the known rules of science?

1. Micro waves are not light waves and light waves cannot turn to microwaves! They are different spectrums of waves!
2. Emp's render electronics useless, they cannot force fusion of the nuclear materials or fission to create a critical mass!
3. Yes the sky will darken, but it cannot happen by superheated transluscent hydrogen gas.
4. Microwaves do not cause tectonic activity. Just the opposite . Micorwaves can map tectonic plates but their radiation does not cause earthquakes.

And huey helicopters are not the critters from the pit either!

Revelation 9
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9 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

You should quit while you are behind! Lindsay and Van Impe tried to pursue things just like you have uttered and they harmed their ministires and reputations.! I do not wish this for you.