Shalom, teleiosis.
Sorry about that. Wow. That's bad. The editor is not interpreting the code; it's just spitting the code back to the screen! I was trying to use the text that was auto-saved to recover what I had typed so far after crashing and recovering, and that's what came back.
I didn't finish what I wrote; so, let me try again:
teleiosis said:
First three and a half years? Ha! Again, you have not shown anything Jesus did to make a covenant to start His Ministry as the Lamb.
That statement is not a fact, but a conclusion you have reached based on your assignment of Jesus as the actor to gabar.
Yet, nowhere in the Bible does it indicate any covenant Jesus made with anyone for a limited time.
The first half is not in the past; in Revelation chapter 13, the first half is taken up by the beast of a man's authority to rule and it is capped by the abomination (being set up in the Temple which is yet to be built) of the talking image of him by the false prophet. At that mid point, two laws are initated by the duo which make the Great Tribulation so great. That is then shortened by the sudden and otherwise unexpected (by the wicked) of the Day of the Lord. (Because of your eschatology, you have to lengthen the Great Tribulation to 2000 years.) With that Day comes the Harvest from the clouds. Revelation chapters 13-14 are in perfect agreement with the sequence of events in Mt 24:15-31.
Dan 9:27 cannot have been accomplished by Jesus. Having the anti-Christ be the actor of the actions described though, makes perfect sense. He forces through military might, a covenant which only lasts seven (prophetic) years. At the midpoint, an abomination suddenly arrives which causes desolation. This is in line with Revelation chapter 13.
The bottom line suscinctly is this: Yeshua` didn't "MAKE" a covenant with anybody at the beginning of His ministry; he STRENGTHENED the DAVIDIC COVENANT with Y'hudah by obeying His Father and submitting to being baptized by Yochanan. Furthermore, the prophecy doesn't say that He or anyone else would "MAKE" a covenant! God the Father authenticated His right to reign as David's heir in His statement, "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased." Yeshua` then offered the Kingdom to the Jews and the offer was not a sham or a decoy in any sense. It was a LEGITIMATE offer! This may be hard to understand, but although the offer of the Kingdom was legitimate, when rejected His being offered as haKeves Elohiym (the Lamb of God) was not a contingency plan - a plan B! It was indeed the original plan - the plan A - for His first advent.
But, Yeshua` had His "sons of Bliya`al" the same as Sha'uwl, David, and S
mo haMalakhiym (Kings Saul, David, and Solomon) did, those who resisted His reign over them. Saul rebuffed his opponents by going to war with zeal against the Ammoniym (Ammonites). David ran from Sha'uwl during the latter part of his reign, but he won the favor of the people by his zealous attacks against the Plishtiym (Philistines; the only true "Palestinians"). Even after Sha'uwl was killed, David had to fight against Sha'uwl's armies led by Avner (Abner) who attempted to install one of Sha'uwl's sons, Iysh-Boshet (Ish-Bosheth), as king, and David was anointed king of Y'hudah and reigned for 7.5 years before the rest of Isra'el finally acknowledged his right to rule. Even S
mo had those who resisted (very briefly) his right to reign. S
mo's son, Rechav`am (Rehoboam) had it the worst. His opponents left entirely to start their own nation, the northern Isra'el consisting of the ten tribes.
The Sanhedrin who ruled during Yeshua`s first advent were politicians of the worst sort and didn't want to share power let alone stand aside for Him; so they had Him killed instead. This is PRECISELY what Yeshua` was saying would happen in His parable in Luke 19:11-27.
The first half of the seventieth Seven (which is NOT the "tribulation," btw) was indeed fulfilled shortly after Yeshua` ascended. Most of the passage in Matthew 24:15-31 had to do with the first century, NOT our future! It did span, however, into our future in verses 20, 22, and 27-28. Verses 29-31 are definitely in the future. However, whenever you see the pronoun "ye" or "you" or "your," these are plural 2nd person pronouns which Yeshua` is using for the very disciples to whom He was speaking!
Revelation 13-14 are NOT in "perfect agreement" with your "sequence" of Matthew 24:15-31!
Furthermore, while there is a "beast" and a "man against the Torah," Yeshua` alone could have fulfilled Dani'el 9:27, not the blown-out-of-proportions "antichrist" figure you portray!
And, at the "midpoint" (the SPLIT), Yeshua` left the household of Isra'el desolate for their overspreading of abominations, and they've been in desolation ever since! They won't be out of their distress, their pressure, their "tribulation" ("
thlipsis") until they can welcome Yeshua` back as God's Anointed.
Shalom, teleiosis.
teleiosis said:
Why don't you post the "terms" of the Davidic Covenant? Hmmm?
Gladly! Here is the Davidic Covenant, a covenant of salt:
2 Samu'el 7:8-16
8 Now therefore so shalt thou say unto my servant David, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I took thee from the sheepcote, from following the sheep, to be ruler over my people, over Israel:
9 And I was with thee whithersoever thou wentest, and have cut off all thine enemies out of thy sight, and have made thee a great name, like unto the name of the great men that are in the earth.
10 Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime,
11 And as since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel, and have caused thee to rest from all thine enemies. Also the LORD telleth thee that he will make thee an house.
12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.
13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.
14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:
15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.
16 And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever.
KJV
While we like to think of Yeshua` as the "seed" to which YHWH is referring here, it is actually talking about S
mo (Solomon).
Verses 12 through 16 contain the promises:
All David had to do was have a son, S
mo.
God provided all the rest: He would...
1) Protect David until he died,
2) Would set up his seed after David,
3) Establish his kingdom,
4) Allow him to build the Temple,
5) Establish the throne of his Kingdom forever,
6) And, when S
mo would sin, he would NOT take away his throne, even when chastising was justified, and
7) Establish David's house, throne and kingdom forever!
It was pretty much a one-sided deal, an unconditional covenant.
Psalm 89 is David's view on the covenant under the inspiration of the Ruach haQodesh:
Psalm 89:1-52
1 I will sing of the mercies of the Lord for ever: with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations.
2 For I have said, Mercy shall be built up for ever: thy faithfulness shalt thou establish in the very heavens.
3 I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant,
4 Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to all generations. Selah.
5 And the heavens shall praise thy wonders, O Lord: thy faithfulness also in the congregation of the saints.
6 For who in the heaven can be compared unto the Lord? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the Lord?
7 God is greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints, and to be had in reverence of all them that are about him.
8 O Lord God of hosts, who is a strong Lord like unto thee? or to thy faithfulness round about thee?
9 Thou rulest the raging of the sea: when the waves thereof arise, thou stillest them.
10 Thou hast broken Rahab in pieces, as one that is slain; thou hast scattered thine enemies with thy strong arm.
11 The heavens are thine, the earth also is thine: as for the world and the fulness thereof, thou hast founded them.
12 The north and the south thou hast created them: Tabor and Hermon shall rejoice in thy name.
13 Thou hast a mighty arm: strong is thy hand, and high is thy right hand.
14 Justice and judgment are the habitation of thy throne: mercy and truth shall go before thy face.
15 Blessed is the people that know the joyful sound: they shall walk, O Lord, in the light of thy countenance.
16 In thy name shall they rejoice all the day: and in thy righteousness shall they be exalted.
17 For thou art the glory of their strength: and in thy favour our horn shall be exalted.
18 For the Lord is our defence; and the Holy One of Israel is our king.
19 Then thou spakest in vision to thy holy one, and saidst, I have laid help upon one that is mighty; I have exalted one chosen out of the people.
20 I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him:
21 With whom my hand shall be established: mine arm also shall strengthen him.
22 The enemy shall not exact upon him; nor the son of wickedness afflict him.
23 And I will beat down his foes before his face, and plague them that hate him.
24 But my faithfulness and my mercy shall be with him: and in my name shall his horn be exalted.
25 I will set his hand also in the sea, and his right hand in the rivers.
26 He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation.
27 Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth.
28 My mercy will I keep for him for evermore, and my covenant shall stand fast with him.
29 His seed also will I make to endure for ever, and his throne as the days of heaven.
30 If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments;
31 If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;
32 Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes.
33 Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail.
34 My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.
35 Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David.
36 His seed shall endure forever, and his throne as the sun before me.
37 It shall be established for ever as the moon, and as a faithful witness in heaven. Selah.
38 But thou hast cast off and abhorred, thou hast been wroth with thine anointed.
39 Thou hast made void the covenant of thy servant: thou hast profaned his crown by casting it to the ground.
40 Thou hast broken down all his hedges; thou hast brought his strong holds to ruin.
41 All that pass by the way spoil him: he is a reproach to his neighbours.
42 Thou hast set up the right hand of his adversaries; thou hast made all his enemies to rejoice.
43 Thou hast also turned the edge of his sword, and hast not made him to stand in the battle.
44 Thou hast made his glory to cease, and cast his throne down to the ground.
45 The days of his youth hast thou shortened: thou hast covered him with shame. Selah.
46 How long, Lord? wilt thou hide thyself for ever? shall thy wrath burn like fire?
47 Remember how short my time is: wherefore hast thou made all men in vain?
48 What man is he that liveth, and shall not see death? shall he deliver his soul from the hand of the grave? Selah.
49 Lord, where are thy former lovingkindnesses, which thou swarest unto David in thy truth?
50 Remember, Lord, the reproach of thy servants; how I do bear in my bosom the reproach of all the mighty people;
51 Wherewith thine enemies have reproached, O Lord; wherewith they have reproached the footsteps of thine anointed.
52 Blessed be the Lord for evermore. Amen, and Amen.
KJV
I should have added that Yeshua` is declared to be the son of S
mo through his adopted father, Yosef (Joseph):
Matthew 1:1-17
1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;
3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;
6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias;
7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa;
8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias;
9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;
10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias;
11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:
12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel;
13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor;
14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud;
15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;
16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
KJV
