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amigo de christo

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Stop listening to ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED preachers:

“…Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD.

They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you.” (Jeremiah 23:16-17)
LOOK AROUND this is all over the place . ALL OVER THE PLACE . THIS WORLD and her churches are fast running out of time .
AS FOR ME , ITS CHRIST and the BIBLE . PEROID .
 

mailmandan

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“They” is Israel.

They were broken off from unity with God by not believing the gospel the Romans were standing on.

And the Romans were warned not to end up cut off like the unbelievers through highmindedness.

It’s that simple!

ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED is heresy!
It is Israel but your anti-OSAS jab is not the point here and it's also not heresy. That is your eisegesis. It's amazing how you teach that Jesus is not God and you claim to be sinless, 100% of the time, then have the audacity to talk about heresy. You are unbelievable!
 
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amigo de christo

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LOOK at it . LOOK at it . they TWIST EVEN ROMANS out of text .
PAUL told the church WHY the jews were cut OUT
THEN HE REMINDS THE BELIEVERS to CONTINUE IN HIS GOODNESS OR YOU GET CUT OUT TOO .
BUT THEY OMIT THIS . THEY SAY ITS NOT POSSIBLE . NO wonder the churches have fallen and keep getting worse
 

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ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED is heresy!
I disagree.

You forget that YHVH is the YHVH of a brit (covenant) which can never be broken.


Eph 1:9 making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ
Eph 1:10 as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.
Eph 1:11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will,
Eph 1:12 so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory.
Eph 1:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
Eph 1:14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

Col 1:3 R6We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,
Col 1:4 since we heard of R7your faith in Christ Jesus and of R7the love that you have for all the saints,
Col 1:5 because of R8the hope R9laid up for you in heaven. Of this you have heard before in R10the word of the truth, the gospel,
Col 1:6 which has come to you, as indeed R11in the whole world it is R12bearing fruit and increasing—as it also does among you, since the day you R13heard it and understood R14the grace of God in truth,
Col 1:7 just as you learned it from R15Epaphras our beloved R16fellow servant.N1 He is R16a faithful minister of Christ on yourN2 behalf
Col 1:8 and has made known to us your R17love in the Spirit.
Col 1:9 And so, R18from the day we heard, R19we have not ceased to pray for you, asking that R20you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all R21spiritual wisdom and understanding,
Col 1:10 so as R22to walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, R23fully pleasing to him: R24bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God;
Col 1:11 R25being strengthened with all power, according to his glorious might, for R26all endurance and patience R1with joy;
Col 1:12 R2giving thanksN1 to the Father, who has qualified youN2 to share in R3the inheritance of the saints in light.
Col 1:13 He R4has delivered us from R5the domain of darkness and transferred us to R6the kingdom of R7his beloved Son,
Col 1:14 R8in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Irrevocable, my standing in Christ is eternal, and nothing in heaven or earth can pluck the believer out of God's hand, that's a promise.
 
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mailmandan

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The Romans were warned not to be CUT OFF with the unbelievers!

My goodness, HOW MUCH CLEARER MUST THIS SCRIPTURE BE FOR YOU TO SEE IT!!!
Speaking to them as a whole and not everyone in this large group of professing Gentiles is a genuine believer. It's the same with the Hebrews. You never could figure that out. See (Hebrews 4:1-2; 10:39) and (1 John 2:19) for example.

1 John 2:19 - They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
 
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mailmandan

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Irrelevant.

They are not the intended audience.

Believers are the intended audience.
Not irrelevant one bit and the same applies to that audience. Not all professing believers are genuine believers. Eventually they are found out.
 

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@mailmandan , you’re sold out to ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED.

I’ve gone above and beyond.

Taking a break from this insanity…
That's your problem. You are obsessed with attacking OSAS so you read scripture in a way that fits your narrative. ALL false religions and cults that teach salvation by works strongly oppose OSAS, which should be a red flag for you. It's your insanity that we need a break from.
 
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