Sabbath-Keeping

[Joyful]

More assumptions and silly posts.

Which part is assumption?


They are all facts. You cannot fool anyone. The world knows churches are engaging in the wars.

They are killing their enemy using God and Jesus' name.

 

[ATP]

No, ATP...not if it means that you may sin all you like and still be "saved".

Assumptions.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Repentance here is referring to nonbelievers accepting salvation. This has nothing to do with believers. Notice the words "believe" and "perish" here. What are we believing in sister?....

John 3:16 NIV For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

 

[ATP]

Which part is assumption?

They are all facts. You cannot fool anyone. The world knows churches are engaging in the wars.

They are killing their enemy using God and Jesus' name.

If you don't have any scripture to discuss, then please move on..

 

[Joyful]

If you don't have any scripture to discuss, then please move on..

You talked about the fruit. So I reminded of your rotten fruit, dear.

 

[Barrd]

Assumptions.


Repentance here is referring to nonbelievers accepting salvation. This has nothing to do with believers. Notice the words "believe" and "perish" here. What are we believing in sister?....

John 3:16 NIV For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Rev 3:6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Don't you see....these are people who have their name written in the book of life, but there does exist the possibility of their name being blotted out.
To avoid that lamentable circumstance, one must be an overcomer.
If you are an overcomer, not only will the Lord not blot your name from the book of life...but He will confess your name before His Father and before His angels.
But you must be an overcomer!

Now, what do you think must be overcome, if not sin?????

These people, who already had their names in the book of life, were warned that they could have their name blotted out of the book of life.
Do you understand, ATP?
They could lose their salvation...

 

[mjrhealth]

You, my friend, are fooling yourself if you think you can have a gay lover and have Christ at the same time.

Se bard, no, love, you have no idea of where I come from, you know what assumption does dont you, ii makes an.... think very hard on it.

It was always teh Pharisees who hated Jesus because He spent so much time with teh sinners, it was always the pharisees who wanted to kill Jesus because He showd them for what they where. it was alwyas teh pahirsees whom Jesus tried to show how wrong they where but they prefeerd therir position in mans eyes than the truth, and that is why He said to the,

I did not come to bring the "righteous" but sinners to repentance, they where so filled with themselves they had no place for Him.

I really hope you can find Jesus soon.

In allhis Love

 

[ATP]

You talked about the fruit. So I reminded of your rotten fruit, dear.

Assumptions again.

Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Rev 3:6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Don't you see....these are people who have their name written in the book of life, but there does exist the possibility of their name being blotted out.
To avoid that lamentable circumstance, one must be an overcomer.
If you are an overcomer, not only will the Lord not blot your name from the book of life...but He will confess your name before His Father and before His angels.
But you must be an overcomer!

Now, what do you think must be overcome, if not sin?????

These people, who already had their names in the book of life, were warned that they could have their name blotted out of the book of life.
Do you understand, ATP?
They could lose their salvation...

Incorrect. Being an overcomer means you have accepted Jesus as Savior and have put your faith in Him. There's that word "believe again" 1 John 5:5 NIV. We're not the one's overcoming sin by what we do, rather we overcome sin by who we believe in. Jesus overcame the world, and by our belief in Him we now have overcome John 16:33 NIV. Are you starting to understand now?

1 John 2:13-14 NIV I am writing to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning. I am writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one. 14 I write to you, dear children, because you know the Father. I write to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God lives in you, and you have overcome the evil one.

1 John 5:4-5 NIV for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. 5Who is it that overcomes the world? Only the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

John 16:33 NIV "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."

 

[Barrd]

Se bard, no, love, you have no idea of where I come from, you know what assumption does dont you, ii makes an.... think very hard on it.

It was always teh Pharisees who hated Jesus because He spent so much time with teh sinners, it was always the pharisees who wanted to kill Jesus because He showd them for what they where. it was alwyas teh pahirsees whom Jesus tried to show how wrong they where but they prefeerd therir position in mans eyes than the truth, and that is why He said to the,

I did not come to bring the "righteous" but sinners to repentance, they where so filled with themselves they had no place for Him.

I really hope you can find Jesus soon.

In allhis Love

Oh, Mjrhealth....
You are avoiding the question.
Yes, I know that the Pharisees didn't like Jesus....they still don't, today. They didn't like being called hypocrites. But that is what they were.
Jesus didn't go to them with His message...they came to Him, looking to trap Him. They were always trying to catch Him in some snare or other...but they never could.
And I know that Jesus spent His time with sinners...how could He avoid it, we are all sinners, aren't we?
Jesus came, not to call the righteous to repentance...but sinners. And how could He do that, unless He spent time with them? He didn't go to them to tell them it was okay for them to sin...quite the opposite.

I told you about my battle with sin. Why are you ASS U ming that I have not "found Jesus"? BTW, I was the one who was lost...Jesus never had to be "found", because He never was lost. He is the One Who came to find me, not the other way around.

I'm not telling you anything new...I am repeating what God has said. You cannot remain in your gay lifestyle and expect to be "saved".

So, tell me...what am I assuming here? This is your chance to tell the truth, Mjhealth. Go for it.

 

[ATP]

This is an extremely popular, high sounding Christian axiom that has no basis in Scripture. Any gift may be discarded by the recipient as easily as it was received. Many a broken, shattered heart has been returned despised and rejected by him or her who formerly received it intact with joy. It's time for this popular myth to die.

OSAS believers have convinced themselves that God will force into heaven those who formerly and eagerly surrendered to Him but turned to serve Satan in the end, not discerning that the selfless atmosphere of heaven would be HELL for them who have not allowed the Holy Spirit to form their characters to love and prefer others over themselves and selfishness. They would hate the company of the righteous in heaven just as much as sinners hate that to be in the company of us down here.

Gal 5:4 NIV You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

Rom 4:14 NIV For if those who depend on the law are heirs, faith means nothing and the promise is worthless,

 

[Barrd]

Gal 5:4 NIV You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

Rom 4:14 NIV For if those who depend on the law are heirs, faith means nothing and the promise is worthless,

Joh 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.

Joh 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.

Joh 15:24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

Gal 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

 

[ATP]

1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Tell that to Phoneman. ;)

 

[Barrd]

Tell that to Phoneman. ;)

I'll do that...but right now, I'm telling you.

 

[heretoeternity]

ATP...Paul said "work out your salvation with fear and trembling" Philippians 2

 

[heretoeternity]

ATP...."sin is transgression of God's law" 1st John....Hebrews 10 says if one continues to sin after receiving the word of God, and forgiveness through Jesus sacrifice, there is no other sacrifice to provide salvation..it is gone....
Goodbye OSAS....welcome to the wide road that leads to destruction!

 

[ATP]

I'll do that...but right now, I'm telling you.

You're preaching it to the wrong choir Barrd.
What are your thoughts on post 1607.
Justification only comes once in 1 Cor 6:11 NIV.
If you are truly born again, you are not part of the class of 1 Cor 6:9-10 NIV.

Rom 3:24 NIV and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

Rom 3:28 NIV For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

Rom 4:2 NIV If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God.

Rom 5:1 NIV Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

Rom 5:9 NIV Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him!

Rom 8:30 NIV And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

Rom 10:9-10 NIV If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

1 Cor 6:11 NIV And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Gal 2:16-17 NIV know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith infn Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified. 17 “But if, in seeking to be justified in Christ, we Jews find ourselves also among the sinners, doesn't that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not!

Gal 3:11 NIV Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”

Gal 3:24 NIV So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith.

Gal 5:4 NIV You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

Tit 3:7 NIV so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.

ATP...Paul said "work out your salvation with fear and trembling" Philippians 2

Rom 8:15 ESV For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, "Abba! Father!"

2 Tim 1:7 ESV for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.

Heb 2:14-15 ESV Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong slavery.

1 John 4:18 ESV There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.

 

[ATP]

ATP...."sin is transgression of God's law" 1st John....Hebrews 10 says if one continues to sin after receiving the word of God, and forgiveness through Jesus sacrifice, there is no other sacrifice to provide salvation..it is gone....
Goodbye OSAS....welcome to the wide road that leads to destruction!

Incorrect. If you look in the earlier chapter of Heb 7 and Heb 10, it says that Jesus was the final sacrifice for all sins once for all.

Heb 7:27 NIV Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself.

Heb 10:10-12 NIV And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God.

Heb 10:26-31 NIV If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," and again, "The Lord will judge his people." 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

I see these passages specifically referring to non believing Jews in Israel, being that Hebrews is a Jewish book to begin with. Let me give you my break down word for word...

26 - If we deliberately keep on sinning - This refers to nonbelievers, not believers. Rom 6:14 NIV, 1 John 3:6 NIV, 1 John 3:9 NIV, 1 John 5:18 NIV.

26 - the knowledge of the truth - Nonbelievers are known to have the knowledge of God, the knowledge of truth Rom 1:18 NIV, Rom 1:25 NIV, Rom 1:28 NIV

26 - no sacrifice for sins is left - For starters, how can there be no sacrifice for sins left when Jesus sacrificed it all and paid the penalty for ALL sin, past, present and future Isa 53:4-6 NIV, Isa 53:10 NIV, John 1:29 NIV, Rom 4:7-8 NIV, Col 2:13-15 NIV, Heb 7:27 NIV, Heb 10:12 NIV, 1 John 2:12 NIV, Rev 1:4-5 NIV. Also, in the Mosaic Covenant the Jews would sacrifice animals on the alter as a blood covenant for the forgiveness of sins. Moses in his covenant took from the offerings half of the blood and put it in bowls and the other half he sprinkled on the altar. He read to the people the book of the covenant and once again they all responded, "All that the LORD has said we will do" (Ex.24:7). Hearing once more their pledge of obedience to the Lord, Moses sprinkled the people with the blood, saying, ‘"This is the blood of the covenant which the LORD has made with you according to all these words"’ (Ex.24:8). This was a very solemn moment in their national history, for with this sprinkling of the blood and their promise to be obedient, the covenant was ratified and they were sanctified as the people of God (Heb.9:19,20; Heb.10:29). As His people, they would be governed by Him according to the commandments and statutes that He had given to them.

27 - but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. - This entire passage literally describes the wrath of God, but scripture says believers are not appointed to wrath Dan 12:1 NIV, Matt 24:21-22 NIV, John 3:36 NIV, 1 Thess 5:9-10 NIV, Rev 3:10 NIV. Scripture also states that believers are no longer enemies of God, rather we are His children Nahum 1:2 NIV, Rom 5:10 NIV, Rom 8:31 NIV, Rom 11:28 NIV, Col 1:21-22 NIV

28 - Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy - The author here is simply using familiar language, since he is also describing the Mosaic Covenant in verse 26-27.

29 - who has trampled the Son of God under foot - This phrase works off of Daniels vision in Dan 8:13 NIV. When Daniel uses this phrase he is describing the Antichrist during the Abomination of Desolation! We also see this term describing dogs and pigs in Matt 7:6 NIV.

29 - who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him - Now, why would the author here speak of the Mosaic Covenant in verse 26,27,28 and then suddenly switch covenants in one passage? That doesn't make sense. What makes sense is the author using familiar language, similar to verse 26 where he says "there is no sacrifice for sins left". Verse 26 and 29 both speak of this blood covenant that Moses used to sanctify his people. Also notice verse 29 says "who has" TWICE. Why would the author use the term "who has" to describe an antichrist term as in (nonbelievers) and then in the same passage describe the Grace covenant?

29 - and who has insulted the Spirit of grace - The term "Spirit of grace" describes the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit has always been at work in Israel and with God's people, seal or no seal. Also, why would a believer in Christ ever insult the Holy Spirit? I can't find one scripture that can prove a born again believer would ever insult the Holy Spirit. The idea alone is absurd. A believer is thankful for what God has done for them! To insult God is to deny His deity Jude 1:4 NIV, and it's impossible for a believer to stop believing in His deity because the Holy Spirit already marked the believer with God's seal John 6:27 NIV, John 17:26 NIV, 1 Cor 3:13-15 NIV, 1 Cor 9:2 NIV, 2 Cor 1:21-22 NIV, Eph 1:13-14 NIV, Eph 4:30 NIV, 1 Peter 1:3-5 NIV, 1 John 2:27 NIV, 2 John 1:2 NIV, Jude 1:1 NIV, Rev 9:4 NIV.

30 - For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," - This describes the wrath of God, but scripture says believers are not appointed to wrath Dan 12:1 NIV, Matt 24:21-22 NIV, John 3:36 NIV, Rom 12:19-20 NIV, 1 Thess 5:9-10 NIV, Rev 3:10 NIV. Scripture also states that believers are no longer enemies of God, rather we are His children Rom 5:10 NIV, Rom 8:31 NIV, Rom 11:28 NIV, Col 1:21-22 NIV.

30 - "The Lord will judge his people." - HIS PEOPLE. This is speaking about Jews in Israel, non believing Jews for that matter. The book of Hebrews is a Jewish book and the audience intended is Jews here. To judge something or someone is to "condemn". And scripture clearly states that believers are no longer condemned by God Mark 16:16 NIV, John 3:18 NIV, John 5:28-29 NIV, John 8:11 NIV, John 16:11 NIV, Rom 3:6-8 NIV, Rom 5:16 NIV, Rom 8:1-2 NIV, Rom 8:34 ESV, Col 2:13-15 NIV.

con·demn (kən-dĕm′)
tr.v. con·demned, con·demn·ing, con·demns
1. To express strong disapproval of: condemned the needless waste of food. See Synonyms at criticize.
2. To pronounce judgment against; sentence: condemned the felons to prison.
3. To judge or declare to be unfit for use or consumption, usually by official order: condemn an old building.
4. To lend credence to or provide evidence for an adverse judgment against: were condemned by their actions.

31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. - The word dreadful is translated "phoberos", which means fearful. Scripture clearly states however that we no longer have the spirit of fear Rom 8:15 ESV, 2 Tim 1:7 ESV, Heb 2:14-15 ESV, 1 John 4:18 ESV. This also describes the wrath of God, but scripture says believers are not appointed to wrath Dan 12:1 NIV, Matt 24:21-22 NIV, John 3:36 NIV, 1 Thess 5:9-10 NIV, Rev 3:10 NIV. Scripture also states that believers are no longer enemies of God, rather we are His children Rom 5:10 NIV, Rom 8:31 NIV, Rom 11:28 NIV, Col 1:21-22 NIV.

- ATP

 

[mjrhealth]

I'm not telling you anything new...I am repeating what God has said. You cannot remain in your gay lifestyle and expect to be "saved".

So, tell me...what am I assuming here? This is your chance to tell the truth, Mjhealth. Go for it.

That part,

Now Al lsi forgiven. Its by our Fruit, you know the one. defaming one to earn brownie points is a game that politicians play when needing votes, but it doesnt make you ;look good at all.

Now if you really knew Christ as you say you do, would you do such a thing....

Still all is forgiven.

 

[Joyful]

That part,

Now Al lsi forgiven. Its by our Fruit, you know the one.

Your fruit is not godly, friend, because you are spreading half gospel.

 

[Joyful]

Assumptions again.

You are sweeping the dust under the rug.

Suit yourself closing your eyes from the ugly reality.

 

[Barrd]

Incorrect. If you look in the earlier chapter of Heb 7 and Heb 10, it says that Jesus was the final sacrifice for all sins once for all.

Heb 7:27 NIV Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself.

Heb 10:10-12 NIV And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God.

Heb 10:26-31 NIV If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," and again, "The Lord will judge his people." 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

I see these passages specifically referring to non believing Jews in Israel, being that Hebrews is a Jewish book to begin with. Let me give you my break down word for word...

26 - If we deliberately keep on sinning - This refers to nonbelievers, not believers. Rom 6:14 NIV, 1 John 3:6 NIV, 1 John 3:9 NIV, 1 John 5:18 NIV.

26 - the knowledge of the truth - Nonbelievers are known to have the knowledge of God, the knowledge of truth Rom 1:18 NIV, Rom 1:25 NIV, Rom 1:28 NIV

26 - no sacrifice for sins is left - For starters, how can there be no sacrifice for sins left when Jesus sacrificed it all and paid the penalty for ALL sin, past, present and future Isa 53:4-6 NIV, Isa 53:10 NIV, John 1:29 NIV, Rom 4:7-8 NIV, Col 2:13-15 NIV, Heb 7:27 NIV, Heb 10:12 NIV, 1 John 2:12 NIV, Rev 1:4-5 NIV. Also, in the Mosaic Covenant the Jews would sacrifice animals on the alter as a blood covenant for the forgiveness of sins. Moses in his covenant took from the offerings half of the blood and put it in bowls and the other half he sprinkled on the altar. He read to the people the book of the covenant and once again they all responded, "All that the LORD has said we will do" (Ex.24:7). Hearing once more their pledge of obedience to the Lord, Moses sprinkled the people with the blood, saying, ‘"This is the blood of the covenant which the LORD has made with you according to all these words"’ (Ex.24:8). This was a very solemn moment in their national history, for with this sprinkling of the blood and their promise to be obedient, the covenant was ratified and they were sanctified as the people of God (Heb.9:19,20; Heb.10:29). As His people, they would be governed by Him according to the commandments and statutes that He had given to them.

27 - but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. - This entire passage literally describes the wrath of God, but scripture says believers are not appointed to wrath Dan 12:1 NIV, Matt 24:21-22 NIV, John 3:36 NIV, 1 Thess 5:9-10 NIV, Rev 3:10 NIV. Scripture also states that believers are no longer enemies of God, rather we are His children Nahum 1:2 NIV, Rom 5:10 NIV, Rom 8:31 NIV, Rom 11:28 NIV, Col 1:21-22 NIV

28 - Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy - The author here is simply using familiar language, since he is also describing the Mosaic Covenant in verse 26-27.

29 - who has trampled the Son of God under foot - This phrase works off of Daniels vision in Dan 8:13 NIV. When Daniel uses this phrase he is describing the Antichrist during the Abomination of Desolation! We also see this term describing dogs and pigs in Matt 7:6 NIV.

29 - who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him - Now, why would the author here speak of the Mosaic Covenant in verse 26,27,28 and then suddenly switch covenants in one passage? That doesn't make sense. What makes sense is the author using familiar language, similar to verse 26 where he says "there is no sacrifice for sins left". Verse 26 and 29 both speak of this blood covenant that Moses used to sanctify his people. Also notice verse 29 says "who has" TWICE. Why would the author use the term "who has" to describe an antichrist term as in (nonbelievers) and then in the same passage describe the Grace covenant?

29 - and who has insulted the Spirit of grace - The term "Spirit of grace" describes the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit has always been at work in Israel and with God's people, seal or no seal. Also, why would a believer in Christ ever insult the Holy Spirit? I can't find one scripture that can prove a born again believer would ever insult the Holy Spirit. The idea alone is absurd. A believer is thankful for what God has done for them! To insult God is to deny His deity Jude 1:4 NIV, and it's impossible for a believer to stop believing in His deity because the Holy Spirit already marked the believer with God's seal John 6:27 NIV, John 17:26 NIV, 1 Cor 3:13-15 NIV, 1 Cor 9:2 NIV, 2 Cor 1:21-22 NIV, Eph 1:13-14 NIV, Eph 4:30 NIV, 1 Peter 1:3-5 NIV, 1 John 2:27 NIV, 2 John 1:2 NIV, Jude 1:1 NIV, Rev 9:4 NIV.

30 - For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," - This describes the wrath of God, but scripture says believers are not appointed to wrath Dan 12:1 NIV, Matt 24:21-22 NIV, John 3:36 NIV, Rom 12:19-20 NIV, 1 Thess 5:9-10 NIV, Rev 3:10 NIV. Scripture also states that believers are no longer enemies of God, rather we are His children Rom 5:10 NIV, Rom 8:31 NIV, Rom 11:28 NIV, Col 1:21-22 NIV.

30 - "The Lord will judge his people." - HIS PEOPLE. This is speaking about Jews in Israel, non believing Jews for that matter. The book of Hebrews is a Jewish book and the audience intended is Jews here. To judge something or someone is to "condemn". And scripture clearly states that believers are no longer condemned by God Mark 16:16 NIV, John 3:18 NIV, John 5:28-29 NIV, John 8:11 NIV, John 16:11 NIV, Rom 3:6-8 NIV, Rom 5:16 NIV, Rom 8:1-2 NIV, Rom 8:34 ESV, Col 2:13-15 NIV.

con·demn (kən-dĕm′)
tr.v. con·demned, con·demn·ing, con·demns
1. To express strong disapproval of: condemned the needless waste of food. See Synonyms at criticize.
2. To pronounce judgment against; sentence: condemned the felons to prison.
3. To judge or declare to be unfit for use or consumption, usually by official order: condemn an old building.
4. To lend credence to or provide evidence for an adverse judgment against: were condemned by their actions.

31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. - The word dreadful is translated "phoberos", which means fearful. Scripture clearly states however that we no longer have the spirit of fear Rom 8:15 ESV, 2 Tim 1:7 ESV, Heb 2:14-15 ESV, 1 John 4:18 ESV. This also describes the wrath of God, but scripture says believers are not appointed to wrath Dan 12:1 NIV, Matt 24:21-22 NIV, John 3:36 NIV, 1 Thess 5:9-10 NIV, Rev 3:10 NIV. Scripture also states that believers are no longer enemies of God, rather we are His children Rom 5:10 NIV, Rom 8:31 NIV, Rom 11:28 NIV, Col 1:21-22 NIV.

- ATP

I've not seen twisting like this since my last high school dance....
And I don't even want to think about how long ago that was.

But this is how false doctrines are made...