Hi, guys. I wanted to tell you that I understand why you are saying salvation depends on what we do and what God does. Yes, we do go to the Lord and accept salvation by faith and His grace covers our sins. I would like to submit to you a question to think about. If someone saved you from a burning buildling, risking their own lives, being burned all over their own body, suffering great pain, how would you feel about them? Would you always feel a debt of gratitude toward them? If Christ could look into your eyes "physically" and say, "Follow me," would you ever go away and never return? Some did, but it's a question for each person to ponder. I think herein lies the key to whether a person is saved. That's why we believe in OSAS. Once I see Jesus for who He really is, how much I really owe Him, but could never repay Him, why and how could I EVER permanently turn away for good? That's why I think these folks that do that were playing around or had an emotional love, kind of like the love you have for someone when you think you can stick it out in a marriage, until... the going gets tough. Same thing! Now, which person has a covenant marriage? The one who never breaks the vow or the one who keeps the promise? Guess what. The vow is still binding on both parts, but one may be living in sin. They are still one flesh. God makes a "covenant" with us upon sealing us with the Spirit. Once we have truly gone all the way with "knowing" Him, I don't see how we could turn back forever. Look at David-prime example. He fell, but he loved God with all of his heart because he "knew" God. That's the difference.***Kriss, please forgive me if you closed the other thread b/c of me. I may not know a lot about Revelation, but I do believe in the rapture and the second coming. I have studied the book and I may have different views, and I guess I just want to feel accepted even though I have those views.
