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Acts 2:38 speaks of baptism after salvation (the Greek tenses are emphatic), 1 Peter 3:21 speaks of baptism being a FIGURE, not the cleansing of the flesh, and is for a "good conscience" and not salvation. Mark 16:16 is looked at by many as the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, for there is no water in the word "baptism.'
The sons of disobedience subject of the prince of the power of the air, whether they believe anything about mary or the shroud or not, or even baptism,
The new birth in John chapter three does not include the idea of baptismal regeneration.
Romans 6:3 tells us what we are baptized into; Jesus Christ! Not water! Water cannot put you into Christ, only the baptism of the Holy Spirit can do that! Why change what God said to mean water? Mark 16:16 is a verse thrown out in desperation. It is questionable at best. Heb. 10:22, it does not say that water cleanses spiritually, but that "drawing near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith" does it! Symbolically, if one were to display what is happening here, water baptism would be the symbol of this reality that has already happened by faith! I also find it interesting that you disprove immersion with this passage! It is sprinkling and washing, in which water is applied to the object, and not the object applied to the water! The Jews in the Old Testament knew nothing of immersion, but only sprinkling and pouring, and sprinkling is no full immersion, is it! Once again, it speaks of a "clean conscience." Acts 22:16, Paul is told to "arise"... "and be baptized, wash away your sin, calling on the His name." or "calling on the name of the Lord." Calling on the name of the Lord is the cause, the washing away of his sins is the action, and baptism is the symbol of the action already occurred. One cane read it the other way, yet they would be going against the Biblical pattern shown elsewhere that baptism follows salvation. Baptism is a testimony of what already happened, not the cause of it. Paul also stood up to be baptized... right where he stood! Interesting! Titus 3:3-5 clearly speaks of a spiritual washing and regeneration brought about by the renewing of the Holy Spirit! Not one drop of water needed!
Neither passage is connected to water baptism as the cause.
While it is true that water baptism and spiritual baptism can be seen as virtually occurring simultaneously, neither of these verses assert such a thing. It does not change the fact that one is what saves you, and the other is an outward symbol that cannot save. To say otherwise is to bolster the heresy, and to miss the Gospel.
By saying "preaching Christ", I get the impression that you know what the gospel is, that is, not really about anything else other than Jesus Christ.
That question is coming from guesswork, and so the answer would likewise only be a guess.
Scriptures does not say anything to that effect. The laying on of hands of the apostles is not a passing of "Holy Spirit Baptism" to the convert. Rather it is the occasion wherein, the one laying hands, as did John and Peter in Acts 8:14-17, prayed for those who received the word of God that they might receive the Holy Spirit. Now, baptism is administered by one ~ baptism with water in the name of the Lord by the disciples, and baptism with the Holy Spirit by Jesus Christ.
Please show the context as being water baptism in John 3. Else that would only be coming from you.
Nobody is saying that the rebirth spoken of by Jesus is a literal physical birth from a womb of a mother. Nicodemus thought it to be that. But Jesus explained to him that it is not.
That's what you say, but not scriptures. The scriptures you quoted there, while they speak of baptism concerning the Christian, it is only your own take that the baptism spoken of there is baptism with water. And also, it is only your own take that it is some kind of a "spiritual rebirth". Those are all but your thoughts. Nowhere there in those passages speaks of anything about what Jesus was talking about in John 3:3-8 regarding the matter of a second birth, or more accurately of the matter of "gennethe anothen", literally translated, "be born from above", which figuratively means, be born of God. This particular birth spoken of by Jesus in John 3:3-8 is not of the will of man, but is the will and work of God. And again, I have to point out, birth, which is the creation into being and the giving of life, is different from baptism.
No sir. It is only you who say that water there is referring to baptism.
The Christian must not "read in" his thoughts into the passage, but must "read out" the thoughts of God from the passage.
You say the same things and asks the same questions all over again, even after they had already been addressed. There's a time to tell, but there is also a time to listen. Read my post #135 Salvation Through Baptism ??? and refute what I said there if you will.
Again, a misuse of those passages, for neither speaks of the matter of one getting into Christ. Rather they speak of the Christian, having been baptized into Christ.
