Scriptures that trinitarians Don't Want You to Know About - #5, Book of Acts
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I agree that Jesus is our lord, just not the LORD God Almighty.
One way we know that is the resurrected Jesus talked about going to his God. Jesus’ God is the only God.
you're looking at the trees and not the forest. you must take all of scripture into consideration. in order to understand.
did Jesus who is of God that is the Word of God made flesh return to God? yes because God's Word goes out and returns fulfilled.
a king's or dictator's word is king or dictator to anyone not such, within the kingdom thereof. God is God and God's Word is God and God's Presence is God to anyone not God. but as Jesus explains He is not of Himself but of the Father God is His Father because a Spirit's Word is the Son thereof in this case.
God of Jesus Christ yes, but God's Word of whom Jesus is, is God to anyone else not God. all that was made was made through God's Word therefore God to all that was made.
LOL. This thread is focused on the Book of Acts.
All of Scripture fails to mention the trinity. The trinity is such an important doctrine, that in 66 books, it is not mentioned once. All of Scripture is written by monotheist Jews who reject the trinity to this day. How about that forest?
They rejected Jesus in His day, though. Maybe they were not able to see the forest?
Much love!
Jesus is the Jewish Messiah. He fulfilled Jewish prophecies.
I am reading the Complete Jewish Bible translation now. In the preface it points out that Jesus was born under the law and there is no evidence Jesus ever stopped being Jewish.
The Bible is God’s Word, which does not change over time. That the Jews rejected Jesus is as God ordained and expressed through prophecy.
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If you only knew what it meant. but that requires keeping verses in context.
I hope I can be next to you when you bow your knees and declare jesus is Jehovah to the glory of God the Father!
Ronald Nolette
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Well I will answer though not directed at me- First born (prototokos) not only means the first to split the womb but also means as it does here: heir of the universe. If we remember that this was written 2 millenia ago we would know that firstborn were the heir of the Fathers wealth.
Just the same, they didn't get it. And so far, they aren't getting it now, not on the national level.
Much love!
They also reject Christ!
And the new covenant church!
And salvation! And they are lost!
Yes it is relevant.
Once we receive Jesus we no longer follow the old ways of sacrificing lambs and following priests or leaders for our salvation.
@Wrangler if we do not establish a clear understanding of how Christ Jesus fulfills the laws and makes all things new, this is the real stickler holding things up from reaching agreement on other things.
Laws were given followed and enforced legalistically, by the letter where works and doing right and wrong by MAN's interpretation of justice and the laws, where these old ways of following MAMMON led to death and destruction by greed for power and control over authority and land and people. We see this spirit of Antichrist today. People use local power to compete with other tribes.
God sent Jesus to break the cycle of sin and material conditions causing endless suffering and enslavement by corruption of the laws.
Christ Jesus renews the Spirit of Restorative Justice so we live as equal children of our One Father in Heaven.
The old ways were when humanity was in early stages and needed to follow parental authority figures and leaders for safe guidance until we mature.
The NT is becoming new creatures made perfect or whole/mature in Christ Jesus.
So we no longer worship elders but we do respect and receive all sent by God as holy.
We just do not make idols or graven images.
We honor all our mothers and fathers, elders and teachers, in the context of God bringing blessings through Christ Jesus who governs us all.
Yes we still respect leaders and teachers, prophets and messengers.
While Jesus is above these as the Lord of lords or the Authority of Law over all laws.
That is why Jesus is in the middle between God the Father in Heaven, and the Holy Spirit that brings peace and comfort to the people of the church on the earthly level.
All the other leaders and teachers, prophets and messengers are joined and governed by Jesus as God's true laws/Word and Justice.
Jesus is the Lord over all laws that was always with God in Heaven and manifested to be embodied in earth to bring reconnciliation with man and natural laws and God with divine laws.
You will not see other leaders in the Bible called both the Son of Man and the Son of God, but Christ Jesus alone.
Dear @DPMartin and @theefaith
More specifically the JW
* call the Holy Spirit God's active force (instead of Comforter) by citing the force of God over the waters and saying that is the Holy Spirit.
* they call MICHAEL as Jesus due to authority to declare judgment which they argue can only be Jesus
When I looked up what Michael represents, this is a symbol of God's MERCY
That is closer to the Holy Spirit
than it is to Jesus
My guess is since they have supplanted the Holy Spirit by calling it something else, God's active force which isn't a person,
they are somehow replacing that part with MICHAEL they associate closely as one with Jesus.
Since God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit are One,
They are inserting Michael in with the Holy Spirit as one with Jesus.
When I talk with JW, I just imagine this is how they are mapping out and associating the meanings of the Father Son and Holy Spirit.
This reflects where they are divided from Christians and not calling the same things by the same names.
But Michael means Mercy, so this blending of Jesus with what should be the Holy Spirit
is taking the place of connecting Jesus with God.
The JW are more like righteous gentiles so it makes sense they focus locally on their fellowship and are disjoint from the bigger picture joining all church believers with God through Christ.
God has segregated them for His reasons and seasons. Not a cult but the more accurate term is "cultic."
In calling Himself the "Son of God", the Pharisee's objection was that Jesus, in saying this, was making Himself equal with God.
With that in mind, I can't help but notice that Jesus mostly called Himself the Son of Man. He was here to identify with us.
Much love!
Then stick with Scripture
1. John 10:29-30
The Father is greater than All
while also the Son and the Father are One
2. Baptize all Nations in the name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit
3. There are three witnesses that bear record the water the blood and the spirit
And let's unite on the Two Great Commandments and the New Commandment John 13:34
When we forgive others, God forgives us.
When we do not forgive others, God will not forgive us.
We can blaspheme God or Christ
but blasphemies against The Holy Spirit
will not be forgiven in this world or the world to come.
As long as we forgive, then God can enter and correct these things.
In Christ Jesus name Amen
Many times the Bible identifies God as the Father. Not once God the Son ... The More You Know ...
Change in topic.
What you wrote is not relevant to the Biblical fact that several men who were not God were worshipped. If you want to talk about something else, feel free to start a new thread.
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