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Secure Eternal Salvation

Discussion in 'Bible Study Forum' started by robert derrick, Nov 9, 2021.

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    post Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure my comment flew right over your head, huh
     
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    This is no 'papistboard.com'

    'the faith' is not called 'popianity' or 'maryism'
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    you have NO scripture that says the HS governs the church!

    I gave many scriptures saying it’s Peter and the apostles and their successors!

    who’s unbiblical?????????
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    show me the keys you possess!!!
    Someone must be the leader
    Supreme teacher of the faithful
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    its a free country and anyone can join this forum
    Are you saying papists are not Christians?
     
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    Eternally Grateful Well-Known Member

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    The keys I posses?

    Can I give the gospel that saved so other people? Or do I have to make sure they go to Peter in order to be saved?

    PS,. I am a leader in my church, But that does not mean I am the only one who has the keys, anyone who can go out and give the gospel and lead people to christ has the key that will help them enter the kingdom of God
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    For post

    Christ appointed peter pope and head of the church Matt 16:18

    Biblical Mary, mother of God, ever Virgin, sinless, mother of our salvation!

    Mother of God Lk 1:43

    Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary!
    Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity

    Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30 and cos she consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38

    Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
    Lk 1:31-34

    Spiritual Mother Jn 19:26-27 rev 12:17

    Mother of the creator is mother of all creation!

    Mother of the Redeemer is the mother of all the redeemed!

    Mother of our Savior is the mother of all those who obtain salvation!
    Lk 1:30

    All generations call me blessed! Lk 1:
    Thanksgiving in praise of Mary for bearing our savior! Matt 1:23 And finding our salvation! Lk 1:30
     
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    Eternally Grateful Well-Known Member

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    More blasphemy, More giving the credit to men the work of the HS

    The HS is the one who leads. Anyone who leads without the HS’s guidance is not from God. Or they are not walking with God at that time.


    I seriously worry about you.
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    you can’t choose to be saved just cos you say so! You must be received into the communion of saints

    and why think you are saved now? You still alive!
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    Christ appointed them!
    Christ sent them!
    They exercise His authority in His place till He returns in glory!!!
     
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    God adopted me into his family, Like the tax collector I got on my knees and cried out to him.

    I do not need a church to rec I’ve me, I need God to recieve me.

    You need to become like the tax collector. And stop trying to be like the pharisee
     
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    THE HS IS WHO GUIDES THEN

    Jesus did not even do anything by his power or his will. HE DID AS THE HS LED HIM.

    You need to study my friend. And stop listening to men.
     
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    Christ and his church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32
    The church is necessary for salvation!
    The communion of saints!
    Our salvation in common! Jude 1:3
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    No personal Lord!
    No personal savior or salvation!

    communion of saints! The church!

    baptism is required!


    1 Corinthians 12:13
    For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
     
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    The church would be led and follow the HS

    Your church does not do this

    This byu defenition disqualified your church from being the church

    Your church follows the people. Who claims to be a ascended of Peter.

    you yourself claim it is the men who are in charge Not God

    You yourself claim peter is the cornerstone, not christ.
     
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    the HS does guide the apostles
    But the apostles govern the church
    And administer the kingdom
    And teach all nations!!!

    Christ commanded us to hear them!
    Lk 10:16 matt 18:17
    To obey them too!
    Heb 13:7-17
     
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    Jesus is my Lord

    Your lord is your priest who baptized you

    news flash You priest did not have the power to take you back 2000 years and baptize you into the death and burial of Christ.

    Only God has that power.
     
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    Nope.

    You follow men, Not the HS, you just said I was wrong for even suggesting that. You can’t back up now

    You were never commanded to blindly follow any man, Even peter made mistake and had to be rebuked. No man is perfect
     
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    I never said that ANY of these verses "contradicts" Jesus's wpords in John 6 - your dishonesty, notwithstanding.
    In fact, it's been my argument ALL along that it is YOUR arguments that have Jesus contradicting Himself.

    I read John 6 in CONTEXT with all of these other verses that show how our cooperation and faithfulness is necesarry for eternal life. YOU, on the other hand, take Jesus's words in John 6 about those who eat the Bread of Life as being guaranteed eternal life - regard;less of what the rest of Scripture says about bremaining faithful.
    John 6:54 is CONDITIONAL on theose other verses.

    What you have done here is what is known as "projection" - YOU prohecting YOUR flaws onto someoone else . . .
     
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    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    No - I asked you FIRST.
    YOU stated:

    Now - PROVE that by showing me the Chapter and Verse that teaches this.

    THEN
    , I will answer your question . . .
     
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