September 22nd, 2017 End of the World?

[bbyrd009]

On top of that how can anyone have not read Jesus Christ saying I AM and have an understanding of what he meant, even outside of a prophecy forum?

well, imo you got no chance at all there lol.

And i guess God said "Understand I AM" because it is maybe harder than it seems to understand or something. It is pointless to say "i understand I AM" and then go demonstrate that you do not understand by engaging in divining, and postulating where you might end up after you die; not meaning you specifically of course

 

[JAA]

pretty much all crap imo, the prognostications of lawyers and scribes, eager to demonstrate what they do not know; not meaning to be judgemental here, but i haven't seen a decent exegesis of the Rev yet. Surely it's out there though, i guess.

I tried.
Back in 2006 I worked up to 16 hrs. straight trying to place Revelation into chronological order. Of course, many people say it is in chronological order. But I see it repeating for many reasons. One example is that Matthew 24 plainly explains Revelation 6. And when the Sun goes dark we are right at the end.
While typing out the verses, Jesus Christ comes from the EAST, HOVERS over Jerusalem, SPEAKS to the attacking armies, I learned some things I though no one should know so I just kept working until I forgot them.

 

[JAA]

I tried.
Back in 2006 I worked up to 16 hrs. straight trying to place Revelation into chronological order. Of course, many people say it is in chronological order. But I see it repeating for many reasons. One example is that Matthew 24 plainly explains Revelation 6. And when the Sun goes dark we are right at the end.
While typing out the verses, Jesus Christ comes from the EAST, HOVERS over Jerusalem, SPEAKS to the attacking armies, I learned some things I though no one should know so I just kept working until I forgot them.

I should make a list, what scripture says, such as MY two PROPHETS, and what it leaves out, Holy Days that will NOT be kept during the Millennium have a lot to teach us.

 

[ScottA]

so... Most of us understand that the Scriptures teach that the body in which Jesus was crucified was the same body that came out of the grave. But regarding the body in which He now dwells, ...was that changed or transformed in His ascension into heaven?
If so, how do we know from scripture?

Indeed, these are two different things.

Jesus' bodily resurrection was a witness to the fact that "Christ has come in the flesh", that he was to come again in spirit to dwell within his body, the church.

But His ascension was Him going "to the Father", whom is spirit, which we will also do. This is a transformation, leaving the flesh to "return to the earth and the spirit unto God who gave it."

 

[ScottA]

This does not say that by any stretch of the imagination.

It shows the truth by a process of elimination. But Paul then clarifies to say that "There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body." and "what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be,."

 

[tabletalk]

no--if you click just to the right of the name at the top of a quote, it will take you back to it, and so on

Thanks, I needed that.

 

[Helen]

Bad system.
Now I'm supposed to scroll back (pages?) to find an exact quote of the post I was responding to?
On top of that how can anyone have not read Jesus Christ saying I AM and have an understanding of what he meant, even outside of a prophecy forum?

You take too much upon yourself. Who are you to know what depth of God's word we all understand!!

For you information Jesus said it ( I AM) LOTS of times...and we know that...but YOU keep harping on about "following the thread". That was not the issue of the thread.

I AM the Door.
I AM the Vine
I AM the Good Shepherd
I AM the Way
and others...the one that proves to everyone there, and those that read the scriptures is in John 18:6.
"As soon then as He had said unto them, I Am He, they went backward, and fell to the ground."
They fell , Because He had used His Divine Name....proving that He was indeed God, - ( Isa 9-6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." )

Please don't judge us by what we know or do not know...by only one Thread....you don't know us...you have even not tired to know us!!!!

 

[Helen]

no--if you click just to the right of the name at the top of a quote, it will take you back to it, and so on

Great, thanks...I did not know that...I spend ages scrolling...thanks for the short cut ... :) Two thumb up!! LOL

 

[JAA]

no--if you click just to the right of the name at the top of a quote, it will take you back to it, and so on

How do you do that with a cell?

 

[JAA]

well, imo you got no chance at all there lol.

And i guess God said "Understand I AM" because it is maybe harder than it seems to understand or something. It is pointless to say "i understand I AM" and then go demonstrate that you do not understand by engaging in divining, and postulating where you might end up after you die; not meaning you specifically of course

Translation?

 

[JAA]

Indeed, these are two different things.

Jesus' bodily resurrection was a witness to the fact that "Christ has come in the flesh", that he was to come again in spirit to dwell within his body, the church.

But His ascension was Him going "to the Father", whom is spirit, which we will also do. This is a transformation, leaving the flesh to "return to the earth and the spirit unto God who gave it."

Did you make that up?

 

[JAA]

It shows the truth by a process of elimination. But Paul then clarifies to say that "There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body." and "what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be,."

Post the entire chapter.

 

[JAA]

You take too much upon yourself. Who are you to know what depth of God's word we all understand!!

For you information Jesus said it ( I AM) LOTS of times...and we know that...but YOU keep harping on about "following the thread". That was not the issue of the thread.

I AM the Door.
I AM the Vine
I AM the Good Shepherd
I AM the Way
and others...the one that proves to everyone there, and those that read the scriptures is in John 18:6.
"As soon then as He had said unto them, I Am He, they went backward, and fell to the ground."
They fell , Because He had used His Divine Name....proving that He was indeed God, - ( Isa 9-6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." )

Please don't judge us by what we know or do not know...by only one Thread....you don't know us...you have even not tired to know us!!!!

You don't even know what is being discussed. You are answering a matter before hearing it. Go back and read the posts again.

 

[JAA]

Great, thanks...I did not know that...I spend ages scrolling...thanks for the short cut ... :) Two thumb up!! LOL

I said that people had to do that and I was told I was wrong.

 

[Helen]

You don't even know what is being discussed. You are answering a matter before hearing it. Go back and read the posts again.

You need to get off your high horse before you fall off.
I can read...and I have read every post. Get back in your pram.

 

[Job]

I learned some things I though no one should know so I just kept working until I forgot them.

 

[JAA]

Seriously.
There was one, perhaps one or two more connections I discovered that I thought no one should know. So I just kept typing out other scriptures until I forgot those 'secrets'.
There are some, actually quite a few, meaty facts that I did uncover that would be important to know.
For example, and this is a proof of the Bible's claims, there are annual Holy Days that according to the Old Testament will not be kept during the Millennium, that were being kept at the time these prophecies were written. And the kicker is that it made no sense to exclude them since they could not be understood until centuries later during the time of the New Testament. And it would only be later that we could even understand the obvious reasons for them to be excluded later.
Another example is that no one would join the people whose number will be as the sand on the shore and march on the camp of the saints if they knew that Revelation reveals they will all be killed.
Will those people not know?
Or will there be people who do know and they will warn the others not to go?

 

[JAA]

You need to get off your high horse before you fall off.
I can read...and I have read every post. Get back in your pram.

No you do not.
None of those points you made in your list even apply.
Let's try this another way, why did those that knew the scriptures try to stone Jesus Christ after he said it?
They did have a specific reason and they did understand what he was saying.

 

[bbyrd009]

How do you do that with a cell?

sorry, dunno; you could post the Q in the site help thread though

 

[bbyrd009]

Translation?

well, my interp is that "I AM" differs from "I am" or even "I Am,"

6When He told them, "I am He," they stepped back and fell to the ground.

and i would have to check, but i don't think you can find a case of "I Am," as a title iow, except for additions to the text, which ByGrace might have a decent argument against, dunno; "I AM" seems to have an emphatic (!) "am," so "understand I AM," the "I AM" part usually understood as a title for God, making "understand I AM" basically gibberish, might be better understood "understand i AM," where i on purpose made the "I" small case there for effect even though it refers to God, and I AM possibly going to hell now :)

AM is a pointer to "now" iow. Not "I was," or "I will be," but "I AM."