8Further, for the lawless advocates,
You did not pay attention to what I taught in post # 108
Dont put me in the group of ignorant folks who believe we are no longer under law today!!!
Did you not read the last scripture I posted?
Galatians 6:2,
- bear one another's burdens and so fullfil the law of Christ.
We have a new testament that Jesus established. It is His will that all both jew and gentile are under today.
James 1:25,
- But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty(Jesus'new will and testament) and continues in it and is not a forgetful hearer but a DOER of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
Have you ever noticed the Bible is divided into a old testament and a new testament?
Paulíne Christians should take the time to read Jesus teachings. Jesus reiterates the 10 commandments. And said, if we love him we will keep his commands.
I've read ALL of Jesus' gospel.
You are in error when you claim Jesus brought the 10 commandments from the old testament law the Jews were under and bound gentiles to keep what He ENDED!
Jesus' new testament has commandments similar to the ten commandments of Judaism.
Similar does not make them the same law!
Here is what you cannot prove:
Every law given in the 10 commandments is taught under Jesus new testament law.
Except 1. Guess which one?
If you guessed keeping the Sabbath, you are correct.
All you have to do ButterflyJones, to prove you are rightly dividing Gods word is give the new testament passage where Jesus commands in His gospel that christians are to keep the Jewish sabbath?
You cannot! It is not found anywhere in Jesus' new testament gospel!
Jesus taught we are not to murder, not to covet, not to take Gods name in vain, not to be an idolater, not to commit adultery, not to bear false witness, not to lie, not to steel etc.
Those are NEW COVENANT LAWS NOT OLD COVENANT LAW.
Hebrews 10:9,
- then God said, Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God, He
takes away the first that He may establish the second.
Hebrews 8:13,
- In that He says, A
NEW COVENANT , He has made the FIRST obsolete and is growing old and will vanish away.
Hebrews 9:16-17 proves the NEW covenant is now in force!
Thus the OLD covenant has been made obsolete!
Hebrews 9:16-17,
- For where there is a testament there must also of necessity be the death of the testator
For a testament is in
force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives.
For ButterflyJones to be correct, there must be one continuous covenant that continues on until Jesus' return. The Bible DOES NOT TEACH ONE CONTINUOUS COVENANT BUT TWO!!!!
One Old,
One New.
One for the Jews.
One for All jew and gentile.
Sadly, many insist the ten commandments no longer apply.
If we reflect on what they say, that's ridiculous.
No, Claiming you keep the Sabbath law is ridiculous.
You do not put to death those of your church who violate the commands of the Sabbath.
You do not make animal sacrifice as commanded on the Sabbath.
You do not burn incense as commanded on the Sabbath.
You do not stay in your home as commanded on the Sabbath.
You are not a Hebrew Israelite!!!!
Only the Hebrew Israelites were given the Sabbath law. NO ONE ELSE!
Deuteronomy 5:2-3,
- The Lord God made a covenant with
us(Israelites) in Horeb.
YOU WERE NOT NOR WERE YOU EVER IN HOREB!!!!!
verse 3
- The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers but with
us(Jewish Israelites) those who are
here today, all of
us(Jewish Israelites) who are alive.
Pay attention ButterflyJones!!! Listen to Moses continue his speech to the Jews on what their covenant laws include!
Deuteronomy 5: 6-12,
- Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it holy as the Lord your God commanded
you(Jewish Israelites)
You are not in Horeb, you are not a Jewish by nationality like these old covenant people were!
You are confused.
Deuteronomy 5:1,
- and Moses called all
ISRAEL and said to
them Hear
Israel the statues and judgements which I speak in your(jews) hearing today(not our today) that you(national jews) may learn from them and be careful to observe them.
Jesus ended the law of Moses, the old covenant with the jews!
Galatians 3:23-25,
- before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law(Mosaical) kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed.
- Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
- But after faith
has come we ARE NO LONGER UNDER A TUTOR.
ButterflyJones, FAITH HAS COME, THE LAW HAS ENDED.
Romans 10:4,
- For Christ is the
end of the law for righteousness to everyone who
believes(faith)
Faith has come, the law, covenant God made with the Israelites has ended!
Jesus said, for verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Jesus spoke this WHEN HE WAS STILL ALIVE IN HIS FLESH ON EARTH.
The old Mosaical law was still in force at this time.
When Jesus died is when the new covenant, Jesus'will and testament was put in force,
Hebrews 9:16-17.
Jesus already fullfilled the law,
Matthew 5:17-18,
-
do not think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets, i did not come to destroy but to fullfil.
Jesus fulfilled, completed the old law when He died on the cross,
Ephesians 2:15,
- having abolished in His flesh the enmity that is
the law of commandments contained in ordinances(Old law of Moses which includes the 10 commandments) so as to create in Himself one new man from the two(jew and gentile) thus making peace
The old law served its purpose and Christ brought to completion its purpose.
Now all today are under the new covenant law of Christ.