Should a Christian smoke marijuana?
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I stumbled through, with no support from the church or 12-steps, though if people had read the fine print, this would've been avoided.
I've been on morphine for 17 years, with no drug abuse, and no needles.
Countless thousands don't make it.
No wonder the Kingdom is being given back to Israel.
I've been on morphine for 17 years, with no drug abuse, and no needles.
Countless thousands don't make it.
No wonder the Kingdom is being given back to Israel.
There have been a lot of things in which consumed my soul to the point of hating God, hating others, even been up and down in the areas of drug usage, a long with the indulgences of looking at pornography.
(Still struggle even sometimes today~~~!!!)
As human beings it is hard to live in this flesh. There are so many desires, and temptations that our eyes see, in the world that is only full of the lust of the eyes, lust of the flesh, and the pride of life itself with-in the world.
God can help with the Darkness that resides in our minds, and our hearts, and allow the darkness to at least backed up for a time, and then the temptation that befalls us is a choice of ~
Do we go back and do it again or say no Lord please help me, allow me to escape the temptation you did say you would make a way out Father.
It's hard and it is a difficult because even though as human beings we can be saved to the kingdom of God ~
That doesn't mean that we still do not live in the fleshly human bodies that will one day perish ~ That has darkness in the heart and mind of it but the only way to get these things out is the Lord Jesus Christ~ He is always the truth the way and the life.
When we realize it is not by our own will that our mind is renewed, and heart has changed -> it is God and the Lord Jesus Christ through us that makes the change, -> More thankful and grateful we are and more reliance on God do we have, because it is always the Lord Christ Jesus in and through us, that helps us
If we choose to live by the spirit.
Whatever you do never stop believing, never give up hope on the Lord Jesus Christ who done much more than we could ever do.
Glory to God and the Lord Jesus Christ always! Love God, and Love Others.
Grailhunter
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I was laid open with a battle wound and I was on morphine...LOL...I am not sure if it is a pain killer? I just did not care. That is why it is good to prevent shock.
I asked the question in the depression thread.
Do you feel that there is anything that anybody can help you with?
Grailhunter
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Your response to my response?
A lot of good stuff there but I am not sure what your point is to my response.
You are kind of all over the place there.
I will go with what I have said before, The path to hell is paved with justifications....
Are you justifying something?
Just felt like talking @Grailhunter
You said addictions is serious business.
Felt as though to express my own view points that come from my own life.
Jesus Christ is the only justification for setting my heart free from the darkness it use to hold so firmly to ~ Hating God, and hating others. ~> Changed by the spirit to Love God, and to Love Others.
Praise may it be from Romans 5:1-3
5 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God. 3 Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance;
You said addictions is serious business.
Felt as though to express my own view points that come from my own life.
Jesus Christ is the only justification for setting my heart free from the darkness it use to hold so firmly to ~ Hating God, and hating others. ~> Changed by the spirit to Love God, and to Love Others.
Praise may it be from Romans 5:1-3
5 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God. 3 Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance;
Lets look at what all of our flesh is capable of @Truman the Levite
Personally do not believe we will be perfect (IN OUR FLESH) however EVERY believer has a internal war going on with-in them between the flesh and the spirit. This is the fight listed below.
If it is okay for me to share it is a lot ~ Scripture is always a helpful reminder!
(The Flesh)
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;
20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions
21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
(The Spirit)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.
26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
Personally do not believe we will be perfect (IN OUR FLESH) however EVERY believer has a internal war going on with-in them between the flesh and the spirit. This is the fight listed below.
If it is okay for me to share it is a lot ~ Scripture is always a helpful reminder!
(The Flesh)
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;
20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions
21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
(The Spirit)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.
26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
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Philip James
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I agree.
In fact, Paul under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, told Timothy to use a little wine for his stomach's sake.
To God Be The Glory
Shattered
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"Case by case basis" is the sound approach. There are indeed detrimental effects associated with marijuana use, but let's keep in mind that marijuana itself is a human cultivar of the cannabis plant as it occurs in nature. In other words, humans tinkered with and bred the cannabis plant in order to arrive at "marijuana." It was bred specifically for THC-laden flowers. THC occurs in very small quantities in the natural cannabis plant, certainly not enough to compete with the marijuana cultivar.
Intoxication is the real issue here. Intoxication is something the Lord does not approve of. I think of non-psychoactive derivatives of the cannabis plant, which interestingly enough is present in greater quantities in your basic, natural cannabis plant. Which is to say, isn't found in the same threshold in the marijuana cultivar.
Intoxication is the real issue here. Intoxication is something the Lord does not approve of. I think of non-psychoactive derivatives of the cannabis plant, which interestingly enough is present in greater quantities in your basic, natural cannabis plant. Which is to say, isn't found in the same threshold in the marijuana cultivar.
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Grailhunter
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Well Fluffy, I think most will agree with you. Medicine is medicine. Some medicines are even made out of poisons.
Whether it be cocaine, opium, or Marijuana, the medicable purposes have been documented. People need to be informed...period. The benefits and the risks. Addictions is one thing but when it come to mind altering substances the public safety needs to be taken into account.
Some see medical marijuana or legalized marijuana as a license to drive while under the influence. People self medicate. People take some of this stuff thinking it will help normalize their lives, but taking this type of drug as a medication can only relieve the symptoms and stabilize them at best. If things are so bad that they have to take this type of drug...you are well out of the norm any way and there has to be restrictions
Then you are going to have people that reject all this and say your faith should be in God. You are on a fundamentalist website, so that should not be too surprising.
Very true, cannabis has been bred for higher amounts of THC, which incidentally can work against its beneficial properties. My understanding is that the plant will used its fixed amount of resource (food/water/sunlight) to produce its full spectrum of cannabinoids, so to increase one will naturally decrease the others. Breeding it for a stronger high makes it less medicinal, depending on exactly what you need fixed.
Much love!
Mantis
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I think hemp is as close to the natural state of cannabis found in nature. Man has pretty much bred the non psychoactive cannabinoids out of marijuana. Hemp on the other hand is full of other medicinal cannabinoids that have medicinal benefit without psychoactive properties. There is also THC in hemp but in small amounts. You cannot smoke it and get high.
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